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Roulette Why is the average Interval 7.3 spins in relation to a single number becoming a Repeater ?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rheti, Jul 3, 2021.

  1. trans4712

    trans4712 Member

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    Hi,

    I can confirm your results for RNG (Excel), tested 12 spins a couple of 1000 times, in about 14% there was no hit, for the rest the 7,3 is accurate. Given the almost identical numbers I unfortunately wasn't able to reproduce your positive results with said progression (wait 1- 6, play 1, 2 3, 5, 10 with a max loss of 210 and a max profit of 150). In about 500 tests the results fluctuated around -3000 units with a win rate of about 70% give or take.

    I then repeated the test with some (supposingly) live spins I took off some site and the results were again in the same ballpark.

    Any ideas?
    T4712

    PS: Pls Naughty or Notto or whatever your name is - no more confusing charts. Thank you.
     
  2. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Trans
    Yes you must be confused
    Admin forget
     
  3. Rheti

    Rheti Active Member

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    With a win rate of about 70% give or take.

    With that Percentage, you must be positive.

    the Theoretical Probability = 64,8%

    Received the outcome of 1 milj Rng results from Naughty
    of course it was negative.

    These are Spins from Wiesbaden, I tested.
     
  4. trans4712

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    upload_2021-9-25_12-0-25.png

    Then something is wrong, either with my calculation or the progression I am using.
    A = spun number,
    B = Hit or not,
    C = Gross profit if any,
    F = cost accumulated (7*1, 7*1 + 8*2 ...),
    G = Profit - Cost,
    H = Result (in case there were 2 hits I stop after the first).

    thx & rgds
    T4712
     
  5. Rheti

    Rheti Active Member

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    the 19th is a an eleven, so a loss... not a ten
     
  6. trans4712

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    I am afraid it's not getting any better. I took out the additional line as you mentioned (now 11 bets, same progression) and the results are around 30.000 loss for app. 1600 sessions. Actually it fluctuates between -18.000 and -40.000. Winning sessions are around 66 to 68%.

    Average no of units per win 65 - 70, per loss obviously 210.

    Again my question if I may: Is it my calculation / progression that makes this enormous difference between your results and mine????

    thx & rgds
    T4712
     
  7. Rheti

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    SESSIONS
    WAITING 1 TO 6 2835
    WINNING 7 689 58 39962
    WINNING 8 620 70 43400
    WINNING 9 616 178 109648
    WINNING 10 478 150 71700
    67,5 % 2403 264710
    LOSING 11 TO 23 1156 -210 -242760
    TOTAL 6394 21950 Profit
     

  8. trans4712

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    OK, seems like a parallel universe but so be it.

    Let's try it differently: Here are 11 numbers, Would you mind showing me your result? Thank you in advance.

    2
    21
    7
    26
    21
    19
    23
    12
    20
    23
    21
     
  9. Rheti

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    2
    starter
    21
    7
    26
    21 4 waiting no bet 1 to 6
    19 starter
    23
    12
    20
    23 4 waiting no bet 1 to 6
    21 starter
     
  10. trans4712

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    This IS a parallel universe. But thanks anyway. I am out of here.
     
  11. Rheti

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    gee, is it really so difficult...

    the weighted average is 7.3 spins to become a repeater, but because of his Randomness, it can fluctuate from 1 spin to 24 spins.

    If you start to quick with betting, you will lose certainly.

    I only bet after the starter and 7 spins.

    an example:

    1 8 starter

    2 5
    3 24
    4 26
    5 27
    6 28
    7 33 next spin start betting.......8-5-24-26-27-28-33
    8 8 win
     
  12. Rheti

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    if not start betting 8 numbers , if not start betting 9 numbers, if not start betting 19 numbers

    if not you lose 210 units, wait for the session has been finished, example a 17 (numbers
    start over again

    the same for the sessions ending too quick,, Starter and 1 to 6 spins.. there it's only waiting

    1 8 starter
    2 8

    1 9 starter
    2 5
    3 9

    1 12 starter
    2 5
    3 6
    4 12

    1 13 starter
    2 4
    3 5
    4 6
    5 5

    1 24 starter
    2 1
    3 36
    4 33
    5 5
    6 36

    1 36 starter
    2 2
    3 4
    4 7
    5 28
    6 18
    7 18
     
  13. trans4712

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    This is the exact way I was doing it if you look at my Excel sample further up. Where you said I was wrong...

    However, as I said I am ending this conversation, thanks for your patience and all the best.

    T4712
     
  14. Rheti

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    your exanple:

    1 starter 21
    2 19
    3 26
    4 24
    5 23
    6 10
    7 15

    8 20 losing first try
    9 35 losing second try
    10 28 losing third try
    11 34 losing fourth try

    I accept my loss -210

    all over again

    1 19
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2021


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