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Roulette Why roulette is a losers game?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Luckyfella, Jan 4, 2022.

  1. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    1. Random spins - independent and unbiased,
    2. Extra green zero pocket(s),
    3. Unfair payout,
    4. Negative variance,
    5. Gambler's ruin,
    6. Cheat spins.

    We all have lost bankrolls. Which of the above or combination that you think is the reason?
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    If there weren't losers there would not be casinos. You have all the reasons in the world to fail, and to dislike Roulette. I'm mostly glad that most people give up before succeeding. None of your 6 excuses to lose is on my list of working effectiveness. You won't bother to find out if anyone might make your beliefs unbelievable. It does not have to come from me. I just bothered to point out other possibilities and to show clearly how to go about it. It's the biggest complaint on gambling forums. Nobody would ever share a working method. Most people know this deep in their bones. It infuriates those that refuse to find out. They become rude and give themselves permission to cancel other points of view. It never makes them right. They just think that they have made themselves right. They need to be believed so badly that they keep coming back for support and validation. It's just being needy, that's all. There's nothing new about needy people.
     
  3. SPIKE

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    Completely random spins is the reason roulette can be beat. How is the payout unfair, the casino has to make a profit or they won't offer the game. If you have a good bet selection the zeros don't matter. When there's negative variance I don't bet. No gambler's ruin for me and I have no idea what cheat spins means. You lose because you never take time to understand the game. It takes years but it's well worth the effort. Gizmo lays it out in his RR thread and I have a thread where you can ask me any well thought out question about what I do with the EC'S. I get almost no questions because you don't know the questions to ask. You all know to criticize it and tell me it doesn't work yet you have no idea what I do. So how would you know if it works or not. It's like telling people you can't get there from here when you actually have no idea because you've never tried to get there yourself.
     
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  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    In the random game, #3. Unfair payout. Too many pockets with a payout of only 35 to 1 means your long term expectation is to lose.
     
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's a good thing that my method is not to win in the long run then.
     
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  6. SPIKE

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    If you are a ploppy or a moron who bets randomly on a random game, then you are correct. We both know that even if the payouts were fair most people would still lose.
     
  7. SPIKE

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    You play the game of life to win the long-term. You play casino games to win in the extreme short-term.
     
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    Agreed! The biggest enemy for most players is ....themselves and not the tiny HE
     
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  9. Luckyfella

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    If we believe gambler's would still lose in a fair game, that the casino is guaranteed to win.

    Why is the casino still guaranteed to win in a fair game?

    If your reason is due to poor random betting,

    What about the fact that casino always make the opposite of the gambler's random bets which is another random bet itself yet casino is guaranteed to win.

    How do you explain this?
     
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  10. Luckyfella

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    Are you saying there's a betting "method" to guarantee the casino to win? That's the "stupid, losing method" that most gamblers play, the reason why the casinos make billions of profits.

    If this is true, can you tell us what's this "stupid, losing" method?
     
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  11. Luckyfella

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    If we reset the payouts to fair, most gamblers still walk out the casino losers. Why?
     
  12. eugene

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    The player still makes his choice though and most people suck when it comes to describing or exploiting randomness as this video shows.
    So it's no real surprise that most people lose and would still lose in a fair game.

     
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    hello my friend
     
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    Hello Shaft, it's good you are still around and happy new year to you and everyone else as well!
     
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  15. Rond1nell1

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    The topic is not whether there is a method of winning, but why is roulette a game of losers?
    The answer is simple, the casino wants something that makes them lose, and will offer games where they have the mathematical advantage in their favor, and we all know that human beings are by nature undisciplined and greedy and that's the best weapon in casinos, and they still offer free drinks, is it because?!
    This I think answers well the topic question, and I reinforce I know there is a winning minority, but the vast majority are recreational players and fit the profile of casinos, simple as that!
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There are also recreational players playing like professionals out there .

    Better accept this knowledge .


    DO NPT look fpwn on people until you have met them . Some of us do not let it hang out with a big splash.


    Natham Detroit .
     
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    Someone who likes to twist words. LoL. I said the vast majority and you know it's true, because if it weren't for the casinos they would have pulled out of roulette by now.
    Simple to understand, it only exists within the casino games that yield home profit in some way, and that's because most are losers.
    There are the pros and some "Amateurs" who can walk away with profits, but that profit will never be compared to the large amount that losers leave in casinos. And we have to be happy about that, because as long as there are losers the game will be there for whoever is profitable to earn their money!
    Peace!!!!
     
  18. gizmotron

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    Shoving your head through a Pretzel before you shove it up your ass only impresses people in the gymnastics world.
     
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    hello Rond
    do you have success yourself using Sputnik march
    thank you
     
  20. Ka2

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    The casino has bigger pockets aka more money.
     
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