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Dawggie - Just one selfie would be convincing. no need to show the face-just from shoulders to waist. you avoid you always run away from the issue of truth. Just one selfie along your cloned photos of casino chips, gourmet crab chips, luxury suites, Lake Tahoe properties and the likes. How bout a selfie in your attorney office next to the bust of your secretary? No, just your selfie would be convincing enough.


Get well while you kicking!

 

Regarding this idea that it is illegal to take casino chips from casinos; In Reno it is common practice (still I believe) for casinos to cash chips from other casinos. So obviously you can legally take chips from the casino. Las Vegas used to have this practice as well, although they have mostly stopped doing so (probably due to counterfeiting). Certain chains like Boyd will still cash chips from a sister property though.

I and other card counters employ a "chip inventory", where instead of cashing out, we will take some or all chips from a winning session home, and use them at a later time when entering the game instead of buying in with cash. This allows us to avoid the first interaction with pit critters which occurs during a buy-in.

So there is nothing illegal about taking chips from a casino. I don't know where this idea came from.

 

Wait a minute...toolyp is saying the hound used someone else's pics of chips and claimed they're his?

Has anyone followed the trail he laid out to corroborate?

Bwa ha ha ha

 

Yep, that IS what he is saying. I don't know how to check that out. Maybe someone else does.

The guy (toolyp) has already said something that just isn't true about taking chips from casinos, so I am not putting too much stock in what he says. But would it surprise me if Mdawgs pictures weren't really his? Nope.

 

Yeah, I suspect the toolyp will retreat to another handle. How or why you would assume A, B, and C (all completely wrong) and publicly declare them...coach actually gave him the proper response.

 

Bbbbwwwaaahhh, I never knew that you couldn't take picture of foods in the restaurant. I also never knew that you couldn't take chip out of the casino. Lotsa stuffs and thing that a cat can learn on these forum, hey hey.

 

Wait a minute! I step back. McDawg might not be a pathological liar after all. Several posters here, meself included, considered him a pathological liar. He writes coherently, not like one speaking from after-life.

His pics might not be fakes or clones either. The chips on casino tables might be real as well. The food on the table might be real as well.

Thats because the casinos did that. It’s a marketing plot a clever advertising campaign. Look how many ads for online casinos in all gambling forums. The land casinos want a piece of the pie too. Why pay all that money for simple banners promising big bonuses? It is much more effective to post many, many articles with lots and lots of attractive pics. And all that for free.

So casinos hire someone with good writing skills (maybe a lawyer who knows how to write). Casinos have a trade association and they employ people like this MDawwg. He becomes member of all possible gambling forums. The more popular the forum the better. The only obstacle would be permission to create marketing threads likey The adventures of MDawg. Some popular gambling forums allowed it. That explains the 24/7/365 mystery this TopDog avoids to clear. He never gambles he never goes to a court in atrial. His job is to write in gambling forums advertising for LV casinos.

The threads have recorded possibly millions of views. It is more than on TV and it is all free. Post as many attractive photos as possible. Make readers salivate what they see…. chips, gourmand food, stacks of millions of dollars…

That’s why TopDawggie was able to post all those incredible photos! How many players can touch $100,000 chips?! Show them on a real casino table. Pictures taken by professional photographers, not on cellphones.

Can people take photos like that at empty tables? I was warned seriously not to do that or try it again. I wanted some records at a bj table cuz I had feared I would be thrown out. It was ok and I didnt take pictures on my phone.

And yes I had an event with chips. One dealer beat the hell out of us withBJ and T+T. I moved to another table. The new dealer didnt like I came over with chips in my pocket. The pitboss also came over. Their explanation was: “It aint easy to spot fake chips.” I showed them the table I had come from. There were no problems. One card counter was 86ed and one accusation was taking chips out of the casino.

 

Toolyp, your post starts out interestingly enough. You raise an interesting scenario. A bit conspiracy, but still interesting. Makes one think if only for a minute.

But then you doubled down on this idea that it is illegal to take chips from a casino. Now even including taking chips to the next table within the same casinos. I do that several times every single day that I play and have never had anyone say a word in 20+ years. Same with not coloring up and walking from the table and out the door. The dealer may ask me to color up, mostly so they don't get additional work of a fill, but players are in now way required to. As long as you keep doubling down on this point, it is hard to put any stock in anything you say.

Now I want to get back to this picture taken in Reno that 24 hours ago you said was a stock type photo and not one Mdawg took. That peeked interest in several of us. Are you now 24 hours later backing away from that claim?

Look, it is ok, even natural to want to challenge Mdawgs ridiculous claims. But you can''t make stuff up like "stock picture" if it is not true. If you do that, you become just as bad as Mdawg with his making up lies and stories.

 

toolyp, all of my pics are genuine. I took them of my own possessions (my chips, my watches, my food (before eating it)).

One pic I posted in fact



was taken right while I posted at another forum, with the post in the background.

It is possible what is confusing you is that most casinos have a rule against taking pictures of certain things in the casino, such as for example, pictures of other patrons, the entire table, the Baccarat video board, but unless we are talking about openly videoing an entire gaming session (and even there - some casinos will allow that if permission is granted in advance) these are more guidelines than real rules, and nobody cares if you take a picture of your own chips.

However, I would say that it is extremely bad etiquette to take a picture of someone else's chips. I would probably not consent to letting anyone take pictures of my chips, and I doubt anyone would ask.

As far as food, restaurants allow patrons to take pictures of food period, whether the restaurant is in or outside of a casino.

And there is no prohibition against walking away from the tables or exiting a casino with chips that belong to you.

 

Not only that, I tried taking photos of chips next to my steak. That REALLY got me in trouble. They shipped me to Siberia for six months, where I had to write on a chalkboard, thousands of times a day, "I will not take pictures of steaks and chips."

I noticed that women wearing short skirts often have trouble handling chips, so when they drop them on the floor, I always have a camera available. I dive on the floor, offering to take pics of the chips in case any were lost.

Another hobby that will get you in trouble is taking photos in a casino toilet of what was once your meal but has been digested. You've heard of "Dick Pics?" Well, little known fact, "Shit Pics" are a felony if taken in public bathrooms.

 

I happened to check the WoV suspension list to see if ChumpChange had been reinstated after his bogus 2 month suspension was up. Bogus because all he did was tell the truth and Weak Wizard aka Herr DICKtator can't handle the truth.

Right at the top of the list is a 4 day suspension for gordonm888 issued by gordo himself. Under reason it simply says Rule 2. No explanation given for this fake suspension so let's delve into it. They hate it when you delve. They hate it when the truth comes out.

The truth is that gordo hijacked the Celebrity Deaths thread with an 800 or more word diatribe against Jimmy Carter...complete with numerous political statements. Both are verboten by Herr DICKtator. After some grumbling about the post from a couple of 'brave' members...gordo gave himself the fake suspension.

Then it happened. Two WoV members pointed out that gordo plagiarized the entire post from the National Review. "Gordon's post is entirely verbatim from the National Review with no attribute" posts one annoyed WoVer. "Do moderators not respect Rule 2?"

Caught red handed all the fool could was give himself a lame suspension...citing rule 2.

 

That didn't last long. After an undeserved 2 month suspension at WoV...ChumpChange is once again in red. This time it's 3 days for hijacking. His dastardly crime? He posted about the Cal fires and accidently put it in the wrong thread. It was an obvious mistake that everyone makes at some point. No big deal...they usually just fix it.

Not this time. Seeing an opportunity to curry favor with Daddy Wizard...Herr Dieter issued the lame suspension. You see...Weak Wizard doesn't like ChumpChange and makes no bones about it. Will Herr DICKtator's lap dog get an atta boy for doing his cult leader's dirty work?

Ditzy Dieter. What a joke. Has he even been to Vegas? Doubt it. I guess the one Wisconsin casino keeps him busy. Keep letting him use you, Deets. Maybe he'll spring for a plane ticket and a couple of nights at Circus Circus. Nah.

 

What is interesting, Freddy, is that Chump change and Mdawg BOTH hijacked the same thread at WoV. Chumper got a suspension, while dawg only got a warning.

 

The Wizard is no fool, he understands that money makes the world go round and his track record shows that he's not against taking money from MDawg.

Not saying he WAS paid to look away...but he could have been, and the hound is so desperate for any shred of credibility that he might stoop low enough to pay him.

 

WeakWizard may be no fool but with all his personality disorders he sure can act like one. What he wasn't against was begging for money after he blew all his on himself. Taking money from members only to sell WoV a few weeks later for $2.35 million....all the while knowing the windfall was coming. Classless.

It's only a matter of time before he's broke again. Mrs. Wizard can always get a part time job while he rides his bicycle overseas and climbs his mountains.

 

Indeed.

That could be where Karen, aka Tasha, got the notion of begging for money from "casino friends."

Seems to be a shady form of AP.

 

As someone who at times has been critical of Wizard for different things, I feel the need to defend him here a bit because I don't think Freddy is being accurate in his portrayal of how things went down, either intentionally or just not remembering.

Prior to the sale, Shackleford wasn't making much off of WoO or the forum. He was running some banners from one of the online gambling sites that probably covered his costs. Then something happened and that gambling site pulled out. That left Wizard searching for another means to make money to cover costs and try to make a profit, because THAT is ultimately what it was about.

He was considering and probably going to move towards a subscription type site and forum. For those familiar, think BJ21 and its green chip monthly subscription forum. BUT before he went that route, Shackleford decided to see if members wanted to volunteering donate to cover the costs associated. So that is what he did.

Now that did result in a bad look, when he sold the site a short time later. BUT if I remember correctly, he refunded or offered to refund any donations that had been made, so no harm.

As per the timing, who knows, (I doubt freddy does) but it may have been that donating idea that pushed the deal through. Maybe Shack had been in negotiations for a while and upon seeing the donation thing the casino bponus group upped their offer and the deal got done. Or maybe upon seeing the donation thing is when they started to talk about a deal, figuring he was ripe to sell. Who knows. (certainly not freddy).

But again Shackleford returned or offered to return any money that had been donated, so Freddy's critsism that he took donations and then sold a few weeks later just doesn't fly.

 

Speaking of Michael Shackleford, I want to give a big shout-out and all due credit to him for teaching me how to read the Derived Roads in Baccarat. Nobody, and I mean nobody, on the planet does this better than the Shack.

He seems to be such a decent, genuine, unpretentious guy.

For those interested in learning how to read Derived Roads, Fast Forward to the +12:30 mark (first portion of vid is elementary), and within just 20 minutes, Michael will fully teach you how to read with confidence these otherwise perplexing features of the Baccarat Scoreboard.