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TurboGenius Working on TG's ideas

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Bitrock06, Jul 21, 2020.

  1. Rond1nell1

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    [QUOTE = "SPIKE, Isso nunca será feito com um ataque frontal, ele tem que ser feito em um ataque indireto onde você entra e sai dentro e fora. [/ QUOTE]
    Comecei a fazer isso e meus resultados melhoraram muito. Não adianta enfrentar a vantagem da roleta, temos que tirar proveito de uma variância win-and-go.
     
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  2. SPIKE

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    English, dude
     
  3. Denzie

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    You're behaving as a parrot....was the AP section to busy that you come here to be annoying? Another one on ignore....easy comes, easy goes
     
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  4. Rond1nell1

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    When I published, the page was in English. Gave some error, because I use the google translator. I put the page in English and I answer!
     
  5. Anunnaki

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    @Gigi666 Per your request, please find attached to this post below the Leading Repeater Analysis Summary statistics that I created by running 1M 1000[1K]-spin cycles in Excel and determining the first occurrence spin for each repeater level 3x–30x, as well as the number of vying contenders at each level. You will also note the calculated Average Interval value between each level for the Leading Repeater – e.g. the Average Interval between the first 3x repeater and the first 4x repeater is 16.1978 spins [Single-0].

    In these charts you will see the Min/Max values identified for these 1M cycles for the first occurrence spin and vying contender ranges. However, to determine the “normal” occurrence ranges for each and not just the outlier extremes, I did also calculate the 95% and 99% ranges as well, simply to provide a frame of reference. Lastly, you will also see the occurrence percentages for the Leading Repeater within each of the first 1–5 complete 37/38-spin cycles.

    The 1M cycle averages obtained are very interesting, especially regarding the 3x–6x occurrence ranges which show smaller average occurrence intervals of 16.1978 spins between 3x-->4x; 18.5397 spins between 4x-->5x; and 20.2732 spins between 5x-->6x [Single-0]. Even the average occurrence intervals for the 7x–11x repeaters are under 25 spins; but, as you see, the average intervals do continue to increase the further you go in the cycle. Of course, these are averages and, as shown in the tables, there's still quite a lot of variance regarding the occurrence ranges.

    Initially, what really drew my attention was the fact that in 98.3950% of all 37-spin cycles [Single-0], there will be at least one 3x repeater. But now what really grabs my eye is the average for the first 4x repeater is by spin 37.2438 and thus 51.0136% of all 37-spin cycles will have at least one 4x repeater and 99.9840% of the time, the first 4x repeater will show within two (2) complete 37-spin cycles [Single-0]. That’s pretty powerful information and is also what I believe that @Denzie has been focusing on.
    However, in my opinion beyond the 2nd or 3rd complete spin cycle, the stats seem to show reduced predictability; at least for those leading repeater numbers. So this tended to encourage me to keep my betting series shorter and not to continue chasing those 6x/7x/8x repeaters.

    In observing all of these statistics, what can be clearly noted is that while the deeper you go in any spin cycle the Leading Repeater may become more predictable [lower average vying contenders], the occurrence spin ranges continue to widen and the Average Interval between the Leading Repeater numbers continues to increase towards the arithmetic mean.

    Certainly there is a lot of information presented in these tables and it can be a lot to digest. Hopefully you will find it to be helpful in your quest. I welcome your comments.
     
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  6. Gigi666

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    Amazing stuff, you saved me a lot of work also some numbers align already with my smaller sample. I also noticed the 37 spins avg for first 4x and while vying contenders as you call it can still be large enough at times, this would be my starting point from 3x. Your observation of how far to go also overlaps with my more or less, best consistent results are 3x to 8x or so probably best to around spin 111 to 180, looking at various averages we can attack the most probable in a session (for example I find it profitable so far to attack the leader when it's on its own as at some point (usually later laps) it comes few times in a row before others catch up or if by average expected spin count no 5x etc I'd start betting some 4x ).
    I really appreciate you sharing these, will download later and study.
     
  7. Nimo

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    Good for you, you took the information provided and investigated it for yourself rather than saying it's not mathematically possible, or posting a meme and saying it's fallacy. The information lines up with what Turbo posted and is very important.
     
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  8. Gigi666

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    Also good to know average spin hit for 2nd 3rd hitters as these are good to target too. How viable is this to be used in live play can't say yet.
     
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  9. Denzie

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    When you write stuff down while playing....always look at the spin count/gaps...

    For example: when you note the 3 columns/racetrack down with 1x to 20x ...at some points you'll see big gaps...then when it hits...it hits fast to go back to their "average" ....exploitable? Sure it is. The other day I was going at 16 spin gaps on average on the leader....I took the profit and stopped. But kept on filling my charts. A gap of 83 spins came till a hit....after that hit....yep 2 fast hits....stuff like this happens a lot

    Chasing a 2x to a 3x only works when they hit early... .... ....

    Knowing good averages helps out a lot in making the right decisions imo
     
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  10. gizmotron

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    I wrote a computer sim that is here to download and run. That feature that Denzie just pointed out in the nature of hottest numbers happens way more often than not in hottest numbers. You can download it, run it, and to see for yourself.

    I have no interest in hottest number hunting. But I know I can see this working for those that have figured it out at being a great working method.
     
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  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here, read it and weep:

    Code:
    01) 082, 023, 015, 047, 003, 110, 039, 044, 053, 
    02) 012, 029, 033, 021, 035, 051, 024, 020, 011, 055, 007, 024, 027, 029, 010, 036, 
    03) 011, 025, 066, 030, 012, 181, 037, 039, 017, 031, 
    04) 008, 051, 009, 024, 008, 037, 010, 052, 061, 054, 082, 034, 
    05) 010, 010, 041, 073, 042, 025, 013, 014, 051, 003, 022, 048, 018, 067, 
    06) 043, 088, 030, 011, 003, 017, 005, 049, 015, 012, 078, 008, 007, 023, 047, 
    07) 019, 012, 006, 057, 032, 036, 060, 037, 040, 021, 060, 063, 
    08) 014, 036, 103, 002, 002, 072, 003, 003, 046, 048, 076, 030, 
    09) 017, 012, 006, 029, 006, 031, 006, 009, 033, 005, 046, 064, 078, 006, 023, 004, 010, 010, 020, 
    10) 001, 075, 128, 027, 106, 031, 071, 
    11) 053, 036, 128, 054, 005, 065, 026, 002, 042, 008, 
    12) 021, 013, 010, 004, 045, 043, 006, 044, 012, 032, 012, 114, 048, 002, 
    13) 032, 030, 046, 158, 023, 092, 019, 023, 
    14) 013, 039, 008, 024, 035, 022, 024, 137, 084, 
    15) 023, 016, 084, 016, 055, 016, 006, 011, 058, 010, 023, 
    16) 002, 020, 057, 019, 050, 015, 008, 009, 061, 013, 089, 055, 005, 028, 
    17) 007, 040, 065, 017, 006, 047, 003, 062, 041, 005, 040, 046, 012, 029, 030, 
    18) 058, 023, 002, 007, 087, 042, 021, 004, 155, 045, 
    19) 016, 024, 016, 010, 009, 005, 033, 001, 008, 030, 074, 057, 011, 040, 073, 006, 
    20) 087, 022, 037, 018, 009, 034, 030, 069, 051, 033, 002, 050, 
    21) 027, 118, 005, 140, 011, 101, 044, 
    22) 015, 015, 012, 025, 032, 026, 002, 013, 050, 110, 016, 014, 031, 064, 
    23) 004, 047, 003, 112, 021, 085, 002, 004, 099, 051, 006, 004, 
    24) 025, 040, 056, 022, 025, 066, 016, 019, 067, 
    25) 005, 013, 008, 091, 041, 045, 020, 022, 008, 010, 024, 005, 023, 099, 
    26) 049, 075, 004, 051, 034, 002, 023, 005, 013, 006, 035, 076, 021, 027, 011, 016, 
    27) 138, 086, 015, 009, 009, 096, 005, 087, 
    28) 057, 015, 102, 084, 038, 027, 001, 003, 013, 101, 
    29) 038, 017, 008, 040, 086, 013, 109, 006, 018, 011, 018, 012, 057, 014, 
    30) 097, 087, 012, 010, 002, 004, 021, 019, 080, 015, 082, 
    31) 073, 005, 032, 005, 045, 009, 014, 005, 023, 064, 033, 023, 019, 015, 028, 029, 018, 
    32) 006, 100, 199, 008, 032, 063, 001, 
    33) 024, 021, 041, 002, 016, 014, 015, 018, 005, 003, 106, 002, 036, 009, 016, 016, 028, 015, 010, 013, 
    34) 033, 078, 107, 033, 017, 018, 126, 015, 
    35) 009, 019, 043, 006, 008, 108, 002, 025, 001, 049, 014, 042, 013, 015, 072, 
    36) 046, 023, 022, 087, 013, 018, 040, 006, 022, 030, 002, 001, 028, 017, 005, 024, 
    37) 003, 093, 225, 053, 008, 001, 034, 
    
    
    look at number #33
     
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  12. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    This thread really should be titled, "Gambler's Fallacy Hell".

    There's nothing in it that's of any value.

    No, actually it's of no value whatsoever. You have no way of knowing which numbers will continue hitting, and which numbers will start. No matter how you raise or lower your bets, or how you qualify your "hot number" it's not going to work. This idea is as old as the dinosaur fossils. It didn't work in the past, and it won't work now.
     
  13. TurboGenius

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    This is from my last live play - I mean "no way of knowing" looks a lot like "certainly knowing"
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    The peak in balance was from 3x to 13x and those #27's are what "knowing" is about.
     
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  14. Anunnaki

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    I would <LIKE> this if I could... Why do I and others here no longer have a 'Like' button??? Am I not worthy of participation by acknowledging beneficial content posted by others? WTF?!?
     
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  15. Anunnaki

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    Quite frankly, DSAA, I appreciate your denigrating commentary in response to my contribution. I consider it a rite of passage here, as any member of this forum that should be taken seriously just absolutely **HAS** to be viewed negatively by Caleb/Snowman/DSAA. I feel like I've received a badge of honer!:cool:

    My sincere question to you is this: If there is nothing of any value here on this forum, why is it exactly that you dedicate so many of your waking hours daily to perusing the postings here?? At this point in your life, you genuinely must develop more constructive ways to spend your time and energies.:finger:
     
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    You get a like button after a certain amount of posts.
     
  17. Anunnaki

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    I was assuming that there was some qualification threshold that had been implemented at some point. When I joined the forum initially, I had a 'Like' button for years then it just disappeared without any formal notification. That's a shame, as in my opinion that feature was helpful to encourage participation by new members even if they weren't ready to begin posting commentary.

    So even though I've been a forum member for years and have always been a positive contributor, I'm not worthy of Liking other members' contributions, but someone who posts x number of drivel messages is, huh??:banghead: Please know that I'm not upset with you, Nimo; you're just the messenger. I appreciate your prompt reply.
     
  18. Denzie

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    Oooooh look at that sweet sweet fallacy. But what about that extra pocket ? Lmao


    Now only one thing left to do....figure out the best way to play it :) ( you almost handed out a full method, yet some cats will make it fail :banghead: )
    Test and practice is the only way....GL
     
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  19. SERGIO

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    With everything that is in the forum and with some clear words like those left by this great Mr. Denzie, you just have to analyze it well and most of you should already know how to do it to know when is the ideal time to place bets and win. .
    Some time ago I communicated my gratitude to Mr. Turbo, but I think that we also have to thank other people like Denzie, Nimo ... who are leaving very important glimpses on how to do it, for my part, they have my respect and gratitude too.
    In this comment, Mr. Denzie says something very clear, which should wake up many of you who have spent years struggling to get to know what Turbo is really about.
    I'm not sure I know how to do exactly the same as Turbo, what I am clear about is that I perfectly understood what he refers to and from there each one can get to the same or similar places to be able to win like him.

    My respects to these few people who help others.

    Pd: by the way, does anyone know what happened to codex369 on your new Discovery roulette channel?
    From there, some of us have also come up with really good and winning things without having to look at the roulette wheel.
    my thanks also to codex 369.


    Cheers
     
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  20. 6th-sense

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    Sergio...Codex 369 aka roulette discovery did a live stream the other night to prove his system worked...

    It went horribly wrong for him...was over 5000 down within minutes...he's cut his YouTube channel off and email addresses as well...

    Very embarrassing for him
     

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