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TurboGenius Working on TG's ideas

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Bitrock06, Jul 21, 2020.

  1. Ka2

    Ka2 Active Member

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    I Dont think you understand. If I say to you hey It works and I'm going to use it in the casino and let you all know how I'm doing and then nobody hears something anymore from these people, thats a bit weird dont you think?

    Also @Platton have you read the 6 repeaters thread. I showed that betting at random shows the same statistics, while turbo says his idea is better than random which clearly it isnt. Now if the person in question shows flawed results not one time but on all occasions I doubt there is merit in the actual play.

    Now dont get me wrong I like his ideas and tests, I think they are smartly thought off, but once tested and verified it's not better than random.
     
  2. gizmotron

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    I stuck my neck out a million miles on one of Turbo's ideas and got my head cut off. I had one line of source code out of position and it made it look like Turbo's method worked.

    I went back to RR. But I'm still interested in his bet selection processes sometimes. I've come to the conclusion that it all comes down to finding and understanding the point of balance. All math tends to equate to 1/37. So we have the repeater hunters (one street), the six street searchers (EC's), the 8 street mongers (double dozens), and the 4 street (single dozens). They are all looking for a reason to have a better hit rate.

    If you take one street and only bet on it then you get 13 tries to reach a balance point. If I lose all 12 but then win on the 13th you break even. So you search for a hottest street. If you play 6 streets then you break even if you get 1 out of every 2 bets correct. If you play 8 streets to win and 4 streets to lose then you search for the sleeping 4 streets. You know from past experience that is is very common for a dozen, (4 streets), to sleep for long patches at a time. If you become a 4-streets-sleeping hunter then you can use that section of the session to change the temporary odds if that condition exists. This all comes back to the three hottest numbers. You are hoping that 3 hottest numbers will remain hot. But at times 12 numbers swarm as going cold. It's nothing more than a patch of a single dozen sleeping.

    So, if you can bet on 3 numbers, (a street), you get 12 times to balance. 12 X's 3 = 36. So that means any time that 3 numbers hits before the 12 bet you make money. Or you apply a progression to go after more attempts to find the winner. But what I'm saying is that you can use the information of the sleeping dozen to change the odds temporaraly. You find the sleeping dozen, when it occurs, and still bet from the remaining 8 streets, even randomly, and during that time of the sleeping dozen you have better odds. So you hunt the streaks of 4 cold streets. During that time the adds change to 1 out of 8 instead of 1 out of 12. From that you get 62% if you factor in the zero.

    So just like all the hunters that hunt for certain things at certain times, you get it coming down to good timing. So it's the same with the repeater's crowd. It all comes down to observational awareness, good timing, and knowing the balance points. All that still equates to 1/37 if you make bet selections blindly, in other words bet randomly.

    But the point is that you can't force a sleeping dozen to happen. You just have to wait for it. Seeing 4 streets sleeping in a sequence is just being aware.
     
  3. Platton

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    LoL. Who say so? Eugene? I understand why he don`t show the result. If you don`t understand, I'm sorry for you.
    But you come here and write that you don't troll, but in fact, you do. Because instead of doing work, you go and complain that someone did not show you something, did not prove their words, and they are all cheats? Well, let's say that's true, and what's wrong? What do you think of this? Put on your ego?
    I also cried a couple of times about my health, and that it's hard for me, thereby attracting attention so that someone can help me. But at the same time I do not expect anything, I just take and test what is offered. Like I wrote before, I've been trying to solve the Vaddy puzzle for more than five years. And before that, many more years, a bunch of different systems. And for the last five years I have not been to any forum. And recently, when I just accidentally found this forum, and saw that there are discussions about Vaddy, I was very happy, and disappointed, at the same time, because no one discussed. Then I saw that they were writing about some Turbo, also by chance. And I may not be as smart as many here, but I know one thing for sure - that accidents in life are never accidental! And in recent months, I've only been researching Turbo. For a person who felt inside from the first time and never doubted that Vaddy's system was real, and studied only it for so many years, and then immediately quits it, says that I saw the same thing in Turbo. Because many aspects overlap with Vaddy. And now it's so very close!
    For example, at the end of 2018, Vaddy had one thing fall on me. He just, answering someone to a message, wrote some words that do not seem to relate to his system at all. And he said that in terms of balance, which I never solved, you can't put more than 18 numbers. But there were no 18 numbers in his system. He just said it. And I remembered it years later, and I had a little autumn. Because his system was based on law 2/3. Which I also didn't understand how to use it. But this law is everywhere in roulette. And then when I remembered 18 numbers. I thought it was simple! 18 numbers is half the table. I.e. in terms of balance, as I understand it, 37 rotations of numbers will tend to balance, that is, balance among themselves. And we have a law that shows on any tests that in 37 spins there will be 24 numbers and 12 repetitions. And I realized that I just need to find how to choose 18 numbers so that in 37 rotations my numbers appear more, taking into account the fact that the numbers are repeated. But I never found a way to do it. And then Turbo presents essentially the same 18 numbers, and from a completely different angle. And I take today and test on real bonuses, on the RNG, where I lost $40 yesterday testing one of my ideas related to the table of Turbo races, and where I have from these $40 only 80 cents, and I at a bet of 1 cent, win $10, on the RNG! And this is just how Turbo showed to play. And there's a lot of ideas to test... I don't know why you choose whining and complaining in the forum, and not testing how to make money. Although you may not be interested in money. But, it's your choice.
     
  4. Ka2

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    I dont think you quite understand, yes Eugene said he was going live and let us know. (As have others way back)

    Instead of doing work??? What do you think I've been doing all this time??? I tested all ideas, I programmed them all, i've been at it for 9 years!

    And I'm not complaining I'm only showing the FACTS here!!! Someone is presenting ideas and says LOOK its better than random cant you see? I say sure nice idea and test it and then the results SHOW that there is not one iota difference when betting random. Then I think I'm entitled to address that person to tell them they made a mistake. Not for my ego! But to make sure there is no more time WASTED on these ideas.

    Now again dont get me wrong, finding these mistakes over and over and over again are very frustrating to say the least. Even my own systems fail after doing rigorously tests, sometimes I really thought I had it, then it failed and it always went back to 1:37. SO I understand your frustration, I know where you are coming from!

    Now I'm at a different point in my life, where I realize its always is 1:37 you break it apart slice it in halve mix it up, play a group of spins as one spin play a group of 100 spins as one cycle and see where the data leads. The data ALWAYS lead to 1:37! Now I can laugh at it, because when I started I knew nothing about excel. I learned so much in these years about excel that it was not a waste to learn and test. I use excel daily in my other work where I can excel my knowledge (pun intended)

    Also here is one golden tip for you, never ever bet in a casino when you havent test it rigorously your doomed for failure.
     
  5. Bitrock06

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    finally, have a day off. will be posting more results here. Going to go live soon.
     

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  6. Naughty but nice

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    You must know the riddle; to hit 3 times must hit twice, etc.
    R-sim will TFAR= Take For a ride. As games get played TFAR slowly comes.
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    No Riddle or secret.
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    TFAR
    At 50 spins 33 of the starting 37 had hit. 60 spins still 33.
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    No hot repeating numbers, only #13. Will any get hot?
     

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    TFAR. last of the 37, #23, spin 140
     
  9. Ka2

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    And how many spins (or plays) have you tested in total? Have you seen my charts?
     
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    I’m not tech savvy on RX or excel. All data is manual processed.

    Dr, sir; sir, posted 20’000 live spins. It showed in the first 40 spins, in blocks of 10 spins, repeats show as 1-3-5-7; so, 16 repeats in 40 spins.

    Now it can be +/- 2.

    What do you math people say happens in your cycle of 37 spins? You get 24 of the starting 37, hit; leaving 13 spins, that must be repeats.

    Okay, the above shows more often than not, that 16 repeats hit in 40 spins. So, you have 24 of the starting 37 hit. 24 is LOTT, you can see your 24 is regular in 40 spins.

    Here is a game now playing on R-sim.
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    Think Mr J would say game done. I played to 40 spins and you can see, 15 repeats. Just 1 short on the 16 repeats.

    So, it’s all about staking
     
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    Chips data shows for 60 spins, you get 29.5 non-hit, math, round up 30. So, 30 repeats in 60 spins is most often.
    Carried on and you can see 28 repeats. +/-; here -2.
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  12. Ka2

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    I dont really understand how you play, but if I read correctly you are using the 24 as a starting? Now start fresh just pick any 24 numbers from the start. I guarantee to you you WILL get the same results!
     
  13. Naughty but nice

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    Chips i'm doing a Mr J.
    The excel, shows all the R-sim spins. To the side is area you could track top 3 or 4, the stripes.
    Don't chief riddler, say you only have to choose from X amount of numbers.
    Look to where they are hitting, you can see the numbers that are hot, moving out.
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    Above you can see the movers.
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    Perhaps read the riddles again.
     
  14. Ka2

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    I dont think you understand. lets say your strategy says pick these y numbers and play them for x amount of spins. Do the same with y random numbers and you will see there is no difference.

    your strategy has a clear set of rules doesnt it?
     

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    Chips; Priyanka had 9 numbers and said why would wating for the remainning 9 non-hits be better.
    Well data shows the remainning 9 average to hit in 4 spins. Can't remember the max spin. But the remaing 9 won better than her 9 random.
    So, if your around the 50th spin and 9 remainning, you have 10 spins. Average for the 60 spins is 29.5 non-hits.
    Now play the remainning or wait, wait the choice you have chosen, remember the average to hit is 4 spins.
     
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    Chips; this tester is from Priyanka. She posted it in the KTF topic over at Saint Steve's crap Roulette Forum.
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    Look at spin 47, you have 9 remainning and wins in 1.
    For the idiot Dr sir, the KFC wins the target at spin 17; 50/+50

    Chips post 150 see the hot #10 its these spins.

    Now collect loads of spins, it can go to 148. I collected 1000 games on ITV, sky 176, 1 game aired around midnight, The supplier was jackpot 24/7. 1000 games took over 3 years and the airball gives, repeats for 40 spin 1-3-5-7 and at 60 spin 30.
    Look at the checkpoint for 60 spins and R-sim gave 32 of the starting 37, close enough for you.
     
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    Remaining 9 from what? You see the remaining 9 (from what I do not know) will not show better than 9 numbers picked randomly, I promise you that.
     
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    From what I can see she start betting when 28 non hit numbers are left??? And the first hit wil come on average spin 4 (after the 28) correct? Cause I will show you that it make no difference.
     
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    Chips at spin 47 it shows only 9 of the starting 37 remain, so would your random 9 be one, the remainning 9 hit in 1 spin.
    Here are the rest of the spins. All 37 numbers got hit.
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  20. Naughty but nice

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    Chip pop over to Roulette forum, go to Real roulette spins and look for the non-hit time tables. You'll find plenty there even the Dr S S numbers
     

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