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Roulette "You have to win flat betting"

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jan 23, 2019.

  1. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Active Member

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    You should really take some reading lessons my friend. Turbo doesn't say this! again, you unicorns only read what you want to read, without understanding what's bein' said.
    What turbo ment, is that there isn't a good or bad way to play, as long as your betselection is solid, it doesn't matter what you do.
    But because somerhing doesn't work flatbetting, doesn't mean it won't work with a progression or visa versa.
    Now get your schoolbooks out and go study reading! oh boy.o_O
     
  2. Bago

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    Stop smoking weed Elvis, and work harder on your HolyGrail that failed in real mode. Turbo lied and you lied also.
     
  3. NASty

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    Tested this only two times and both after spin 148 ( Flat betting ) I didn't reach any new highs.
     
  4. daveylibra

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    "The group of 'you can't win against roulette' misfits." ?? That makes 99.9% of the population misfits!

    20% ?? This time next year you will be a zillionaire!

    But good luck to you...
     
  5. Bago

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    Starting with only 1000$, people who claim (HolyGrailers, Computer sellers etc...) to have a 20% edge, would need only 102 days to become the richest man on this planet. Indeed, by compounding, you would have turned your initial 1000$ into 119 257 883 312 $ beating Jeff Bezos 112 Billions.

    I let you judge.
     
  6. jekhb1976

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    start sooner and you will.
    why would you start after 148 spins anyway?
    i start right away, so is turbo! i always and i mean always reach a new high at some point.
     
  7. Fossell

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    Well thats a fair point. You're right and wrong at the same time.

    No casino in the world would be taking your unit bet size a fraction of the way into this journey.

    Compounding your interest and adjusting your unit stake to match is great in theory. But you quickly reach a point where your unit size will be at the house limit for a max single bet. Unless you're on some crazy high roller table, and by then you'd have wayyy to much attention on you and what your doing to be leaving the building and not looking over your shoulder! Never mind being potentially banned way before this point.

    So in theory compounding and adjusting your unit bet sounds great, but in practice, one would 'gear up or down' your unit stake according to what your happy with as a return.

    For example you might take $100 to play. Who's going to be happy walking out of there with $20 at a 20% return?
    Probably not many hands going up for that one. Even though in investment terms that is an outstanding return!!

    Take $10,000 for you bank roll. That 20% becomes a nice $2000. Most would be happy to walk out with that. Or even just half that.

    Take $100,000 for you BR. Thats $20,000 return. You'd be over the moon! But you'd have a lot of attention on you and your unit bet would be very high.
    By this point Id argue, well I want to do this every week. I don't want to be banned. I want to fly under the radar. I don't want to be looking over my shoulder if I bet even higher. My bankroll might be $100,000 but i don't 'need' to take that as my pot for the day. I don't need $20,000 each time.
    You'd either gear-down your unit size and your expectations based on your bank roll or take a fraction of your bankroll. Same thing really.

    You'd limit your unit bets to return what you want to win regularly without exceeding the house limits.

    So to summarise, the house has limits, and the player should have limits too.
    Or to go back to TG's analogy, why have free burgers for a year, when you can have free milk for life.
     
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  8. NASty

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    No I meant I was still not in profit after 148 spins, I started right from the beginning, started new every new circle ( after 1st circle only the 3rd up to 8, after 74 spins only the 4th up to 8 and so on )
     
  9. NASty

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    What I noticed.. I had no hit in the first 37 spins but then between 37 and 74 more but with flat betting I was not in profit. So I'm thinking about if you either use a progression on the single numbers or maybe a progression depend on the whole cycle ? ( after 37 spins no new high, progression for the next 37 spins and so on )
     
  10. Bago

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    Blablabla...
     
  11. Benas

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    20% is calculated not from money in the pocket, but from money which you bet on the table. With quite small bets I can easily bet 10 000 in a few hours... so now another count, what will be if you have 20% advantage.
    And in the pocket I can have even as small as few hundreds...Depends on start...
     
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  12. Bago

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  13. jekhb1976

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    mmmm
    370 spin played.
    Max 1 number played all the way
    Flatbet all the way.
    what more do you need.
    Funny, when someone tells me that they have played it two times and lost.
     

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    Great, but betting only 1 number is not that what you wrote before ( "Betting 1 unit on all numbers which came twice bla bla" ) :D
     
  16. NASty

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    So the above way is not YOUR method to place bets right?
     
  17. Bago

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    No, no, your point was it is impossible to continue to bet more and more, pretexting the table limits, you can see that the Casinos are not afraid of someone betting huge money. This lucky rich guy can't do this everyday of course because noone can win in the long run playing lucky numbers or a gambler's fallacy system BUT this guy would have been more than welcome to re-try his luck for a month, even a year, it is huge money guaranteed in the long run for the Casino. This is just stupid to believe the Casino would stop a lucky or gambler's fallacy player to continue playing, it is the contrary, they would have paid him the hotel and dinner everyday. Re-watch the movie "Casino" with De Niro and Sharon Stone, and see what is the behaviour of the Casino towards the Asian Baccarat player who like the Brazilian guy won big in the short run. You just dream in a world of make belief where things unreal become true in your imagination. Seek Help.
     
  18. jekhb1976

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    Correct, it was just ment to show you the direction you need to take.
     
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  20. Ivo

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    i tried a lot of patterns, but still lose, it is never ending match :(
     

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