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Baccarat Betting Flat: Quest for an Holy Grail?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Ok Ferguson, there was a regular in Adelaide, who decided to flat bet the banker, cos it wins more hands on the long run, only took him two days before he went broke. You keep playing on paper, because obviously you can't afford to play anywhere else other than on your up-side down tea-chest.

    I don't need to want to know what you are doing, because in the last 15 years, you have never posted once, not ever, that you had a clue what you were talking about.

    More pre-occupied in sitting back watching members argue, or if that wasn't happening, would try and instigate things, because this is how child-like adults operate. Even now in 2021 you get your jollies at Jae calling out Nathan for being a respected Rat. This is you, your legacy, this is what your about, and nothing else. there are usually leaders, followers and forum clowns, you without any doubt fall into the latter.
     
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  2. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Common Petey yer livin in the fantasy land. Yer the infantile attention seeker, not me. Stick to yer rows, columns, and endless labby strings ans leave the real thing to the big boys, hey hey.
     
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  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Columns and Labby strings are real good tools for bet selection and money management.

    I don't know where this Banker only came from all of a sudden.

    Even big stacks OG only works because of the imbalance. It would work on the other side. You may have to wait for a - 30 or something but it's no different. But maybe not given the Boost from not having to pay commission.

    I can't document it right now but I'm pretty sure there's other ways to win using OG with that kind of bankroll backup.
     
  4. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Big Boys??? Hahahahahahahaha you can't even afford to play any more, hahahahahaha
     
  5. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Still testing strong and buckin up against 7911 tested shoe am lookin at +9929.15 units nets profits. Also I'm now gonna test for the bet b after ppp style and so far that shows a nets profits of +68.25 units buckin up against 157 tested shoe. If the bet b after ppp style can show profit of even say .4 or .5 units per shoe then would add it as the supplimentary wager in addition to my bet b only original style, hey hey.
     
  6. Ezmark

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    Greetings.. I don't think I've played a life-time 300 shoes in a BM casino. A test of over 1000 shoes is beyond my comprehension. Although, I will be happy with a proifit of two units per shoe average after 10 shoes consistently. IMO the small margin of flat betting may not cover misc expenses. I'm not one to select one style of play over the other. However, I do prefer a winning style.
     
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  7. Garfield

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    Some folks here prefer to test against thousands or even millions of shoe just to make sure they have it right....

    I emphasize on the word test, testing, simulation and anything that have similar meaning....
     

  8. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Cats what don't understand the importance of testings sufficient are coconuts, hey hey.
     
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  9. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Well, I hit the miles stones and now buckin up against 7980 tested shoe am lookin at +10 072.9 units nets profits! Also, been eyeball testings the bet b after ppp and that has captured 100 units nets profits buckin up against 264 tested shoe. So, if that style hold up I'll play it in conjunction with my main bet b flats bets style. When things open up I'll be playin 6 shoe per day 5 day per week with a 1000$ flats bets unit size so even the extra .37 units that bet b after ppp pop will be a nice bonus and bump up my average nets units profits per shoe to 1.6 units, hey hey.
     
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  10. Craps

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    If testing and getting positive results can win, every system purchaser would be a winner. Totally unfit to post anything Baccarat.
     
  11. Chip Magnet

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    I’ve tried sitting out hands and selectively betting Banker only, but I ended up missing out on too many Player wins, and paying more in commissions.

    Today, I flat bet mostly Banker, and bet Player under certain conditions, with a 14 unit loss limit, not counting commissions, from my highest bankroll for the shoe.

    Session results so far this year, before commissions: 2-4 shoes per session

    -2,14,-5,2,-5,-9,1,1,-9,25,8,3,-11,18,6,11,44,9,10,16,3,34,14,15,6,16,17,1,30,17,44,35,-5,19,28,0,10,-15,33,10,-14,5,-15

    268 units Net, after commissions. Net 1.97 units per shoe.
     
  12. Punkcity

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    Not really.
    The same line of thought would be
    “ everyone that passes a drive test and gets their licence will NEVER have an accident”
    As for your fitness posting anything baccarat I would not say totally unfit, your being a bit hard on yourself, but with all that overtime your pulling some of your posts come across a bit garbled.

    Maybe have a good sleep, collect your thoughts and come back with a clear mind. Take care. Cheers
     
  13. Jimske

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    It appears that soxfan is on his way to become a millionaire rather quickly averaging $1600.00 profit per shoe! Providing, of course, he doesn't experience Zumma like shoes and true random games.
     
  14. fathead

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    I don't know Sox, if I had access I would be more likely to wager at Party Poker (or other online casinos using the same Revolution gaming feeds) since that is where your strategy seems to work so well. Good luck to you either way.
     
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  15. Chip Magnet

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    Do you have a loss limit for a shoe?

    A couple of my sessions would have ended at -25 and -35 over a few shoes, had I not used a 14 unit loss limit on a shoe.
     
  16. soxfan

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    The drawings rule favor banks set in stones so no difference between party poker shoe and shoe I buck up against in mortars and brick joint. I'm confident that party poker live casino is legit but just ain't feel comfortable wagerin serious cake online, hey hey.
     
  17. soxfan

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    I always figure a winning style gonna put so many units profits in yer pockets per shoe. So I think that stop win stop loss is nonsenses and counter productive. The worst losing shoe I buck up against never got worse than -19 and worse case drawdowns scenario was -82.2 unit from peaks to trough. So, gettin clipped for -82.2 unit worse case on the way to 10 000+ unit profits seem like the decent risks-reward ratio to me, hey hey.
     
  18. soxfan

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    Still testings strong and buckin up against 8045 tested shoe am lookin at +10 125.2 units nets profits. Also, am now testing the bets b after ppp pops and buckin up against 331 tested shoe am lookin at +136.25 units nets profits, hey hey.
     
  19. soxfan

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    Testings now at 8111 tested shoe and lookin at +10, 236.2 units nets profits. Also been testin the bet b after ppp pops style and lookin at +149.45 units nets profits buckin up against 397 tested shoe, and worst case downdraws scenario only -9.45 units so it's a very safe, easy ,4 units profits per shoe, hey hey.
     
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    Now buckin up against 8177 tested shoe lookin at a total nets profits of +10, 311.55 units. Also still testin the bet b after ppp style and that's sittin at +148.1 units nets profits buckin up against 464 tested shoe, hey hey.
     

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