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Discussion in 'Personal Feuds' started by Tater, Jul 26, 2021.

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  1. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    Point is you/we have to go to work "and win" in order to get paid.

    In biz, I set up franchises that produced income from overrides. Still, If I/they didnt produce lots of bills wouldnt get paid for lots of people.

    One of my friends took his last drink about 17 years ago. He was 38. He'd hit bottom. He got a degree, got a great job, and married a lovely lady who is equally successful and from a very wealthy family.

    It's a little anmoying hearing about all the properties he is buying and rich friends they are visiting etc etc. But he is still a piss cutter.

    Sometimes I think about when I was "their."

    If the Universe said, "you have have the money, the big houses, the high 6 figure income, and everything lost back." Would I take it? Easy answer. O hell no.
     
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  2. KewlJ

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    See you just flat out lied, immediately after it was explained to you. Either you are stupid, and I don't think you are, or you are an intentional liar.

    And that is fine, if that is what you need to do...LIE, but just know, this is axactly what credibility is all about. Don't expect anyone to beleive your other claims and stories, when they see you intentionally lie over and over again.

    If lying is what you want to be known for power to you. I hope it somehow leads to happiness, because frankly, your need to do all this lying makes you look like a very unhappy and miserable person.
     
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  3. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    Here is THE question for everyone.

    If this Mdawg was really making 100's of thousands of dollars over the last 4 months in vegas and getting high end comped suites for all that time and other high end comped gifts, and this on top of his life as an attorney, and all the "family money" he has and grew up with.....then why is he so obsessed with an Advantage player, a lowly card counter at that, grinding out a living of 80k or so?

    Does that make sense to ANY ONE? Is warren Buffet jealous and always attacking some stockbroker making a hundred k? Id Bill Gates obsessed with and constantly attacking some computer program making 80 or 100k?

    Something just doesn't add up here.
     
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  4. Tater

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    Maybe MDawg is only playing black chip at the Casinos I listed on the Vegas Rotation thread.

    Perhaps he will speak to his expertise and game plan.

    KJ. Question. If you are playing within Casino Tolerance, how is it you continue to get backed off?

    It's been years since my last backoff. Knock on wood.
     
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  5. KewlJ

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    Just spoke about that a bit at VCT with MisterV. I don't think I have gotten backed off since 2019. Of course during th covid times, I only played about 9-10 months of the last year and a half and masks were mandated for a good part of the time, which I believe reduced heat and backoff.

    When I moved to Vegas, I was getting 5-8 backoffs the first couple years. The last few 'regular' years, 2-3 per year.

    2-3 is probably as low as I can go. There is always going to be some young hot shot pit dude, that is gong ho and you read wrong.

    backoffs are part of the game, especially if you play mostly a local rotation as I do. You have to manage and try to minimize it. that is what learning to play what is tolerated, what the casinos and differnt pit folks at different times are comfortable with.
     
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  6. Tater

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    Good point. There was one old geezer that hated me. One time he thrust his fist in the air when I had lost a session. I avoided him thereafter. Thank Gawd I didnt win that session.

    He retired after Covid.
     
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  7. redietz

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    As Mission says, "irony" is the most overused word in writing, but allow me to suggest people should ponder this:

    Who is the bigger cheapskate. Person A, who plays midlevel blackjack for a living and rarely tips any significant amounts? Or Person B, ostensibly from a wealthy family, taking the casinos for thousands of dollars in almost every session, who makes a good income as a lawyer, and who stays for free and eats for free in casinos when he could well afford to pay for both lodging and meals?

    LOL. Just call me The Riddler.
     
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  8. KewlJ

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    I had my own troubling experience with an older pit guy at El Cortez. This was maybe 6 years ago. His name was Maurice, but he went by Mo. He had a heavy accent, maybe Italian. So Maurice had backed me off a couple times and one day I was playing and hadn't seen or noticed him, but all of the sudden there he was, looking at me and I could tell what was coming. So I exited and headed to the mens room. I was standing at the urinal taking care of business when in walks Maurice. He starts yelling at me. "You can't play blackjack here" and that kind of thing. I finished what I was doing and just turned and looked at him. You could almost see, THAT is when he realized, how inappropriate he was being, standing in the men's room, backing off a player at the urinal. He sort of slinked out while I was washing my hands.

    I didn't see him for a while after that, maybe saw him once and avoided him, I don't remember. So some time later, I was playing and up walks Maurice, saying "no more blackjack" or "you can't play blackjack here" or somthing like that. So I leave. The very next day, I return, I see Maurice and sit down to play and he almost explodes! He is screaming "I told you no blackjack" I said "yeah but that was yesterday" and laughed as I walked out. That was the last time I saw him and heard he retired.

    And yeah, I was a dick through much of this experience. It is the opposite of my usual 'keep a low profile' mentality. Maurice just brought out the worst in me, especially after the bathroom incident. I have to wonder if any other players have been backed off in the men's room. ;)
     
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  9. Tater

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    :D Classic Story.
     
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    Well, Riddler. I dont pay attention to what others do in casinos. But friends are constantly getting themselves all worked up over what someone else is doing. I tell them they need to bet more money.:eek:

    I was several months overdue for a haircut in July 2020. Covid. My regular Barber was backed up, even by appt.

    So I was going into Walmart looking like a WWF guy.
    I notice the Salon is open and get in immediately. I told the young girl stylist, 7 on top and 3 on the sides. I heard my son say that once.

    She goes 3 right down the middle.:eek: I still tipped her.
     
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    Dont do anything to improve your game. Just keep playing and writing essays on forums and it will all come back and more. No?

    Thanks for doing all that work Don S and coming up with that software Norm. But it really wasnt necessary. All that is needed is HiLo and a strong stomach and large bankroll. Because if Variance hits in the first year? Pretty much fucked.
     
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    The UNKewl one is just b hurt because he had to decline my blackjack challenge, which was that he and I meet at a table and I guarantee I will win more at that table than he will, with the stakes being as much as he is willing to wager.

    When I play blackjack I do in fact vary my bet from table min to table max.

    I'm not there to win $50. - $60. as the UNKewl one tries to win. The reason he ended up losing and giving up last year is because of this poor strategy of his. He wins small when he wins, and loses big when he loses, such as the $7000. session losses he has mentioned.
     
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  13. KewlJ

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    I will not engage with you any longer anywhere but WoV. As a matter of fact I hope to cease participation all together on these other forums that allow and encourage trolling. These are the only places you can thrive with your constant lies. I notice you don't repeat these lies like "twins 50-60 a session" and "losing year last year" at WoV, where your lies would not be tolerated. Only on these forums like this that are more accepting, encouraging of trolls, liars and troll behavior.

    The fact is your claims, the whole lot of them are not real. They defy math and the reality of how Las vegas works and that includes the spreading of table minimum to table max.

    Here is how we know, undeniably that you are full of crap. You have a list of like 40 members of various websites that you have stated you are at war with....why because these are players, real players that understand the math and how Las Vegas works, that have challenged your fantasy stories. So you think you are war with the, Furthermore, on that website that only you participate at, you have started individual threads on 15 or so of these members, where you repeatedly lie about them. Not just me, EACH of these people, you attack and lie about.

    I have long suspected your whole thing at WoV was a long running troll effort, to make a mockery of WoV and Wizard himself. I think that has now become obvious to everyone, even the management that used to give you some slack. I think the gig is up.
     
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    Everything I claim to have done has been verified, via casino WIN statements, copies of casino checks issued for winnings, and a witnessed session where I played and won exactly as I have claimed.

    Nothing you do or say has been verified, and you cower from a challenge with MDawg.


    You could play any two month period during your whole life and never take as much as I have been verified to have taken from the casinos these past months - over half a million in winning checks. I could probably hand you a million dollar bankroll and try as you might you'd never be able to win a half million in two months no matter what you tried.
     
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  15. KewlJ

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    Complete bullcrap.

    1.) The witnessed session (1 single session) was based on a wager of a winning session. So you played the session differently, small wagers, so that if you fell behind, you could increase wagers in an attempt to catch up and have a winning session. It wasn't really about winning money, it was about ending at least $1 ahead. THAT was the bet. Anyone involved in such a bet would have played it as you did, to increase likelyhood of producing a small win and winning the wager, but it proves absolutely nothing as far as long tem winning play. AND you swore Wizard who witnesswed this session to secrecy as term of his witnessing it, so that he couldn't report what I just did.

    2.) Casino win statements mean nothing. They are easily falsified and fabricated. That is exactly why the government doesn't accept them.

    3.) And you casino checks. Funniest of all. You cash out chips from winning sessions and get a casino check. That is legit. But there are losses from many more sessions where there are no chips to cash out. You just pretend that these losing sessions don't exist and that members of these forums don't understand what you are doing.

    You are tricking and fooling no one at this point, try as you might.
     
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    Trolling: Anyone who doesnt believe in the Queen of Vegas and your load of crap.

    Go back to where you're protected. You certainly cant protect yourself.
     
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    Yeah, that about sums it up.

    The casino check thing is funny as hell. I've gotten checks for winning wagers. It never occurred to me that posting them would be evidence of anything but those being winning wagers. I mean, I could go out, bet 22K on Nebraska -6, 22K on Illinois +7, hope to win both, and if I don't, use the winning wager (they play each other) to request a check, then tout the check as me "winning." That's the same principle as getting checks for winning sessions and not getting checks for losing sessions.

    I will salute MDawg for this -- he is committed. I cannot imagine listing all of my winning wagers in day-to-day write-ups, reporting 10% of my losing wagers in day-to-day writeups, and expecting anybody with some neurons to buy the whole shebang. And doing it week after blessed week. I'd feel silly. And then having to explain why I'm not filing as a professional gambler on top of it. Jesus. The more I talk about this, the more I think anybody buying it is retarded (sorry, moses).

    Tell you what, I will step aside from the debunking and save myself for the event of some idiot book publisher taking him up on the narrative. There's more publicity in debunking that than wasting time on these moronic forums.

    Write away, MDawg, write away.
     
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    The UNKewl one is a hypocritical whiner. At WOV, he said, "Everyone needs to figure out what works for them and their specific situation." in the "Blackjack Variance" thread, yet at the same time comes in with his usual schizophrenic alternating bold and regular font, some CAPITALIZED some not, "That's NOT the way it works" aphorism, as if his mentally diseased thoughts will somehow be expressed more clearly if he CAPITALIZES some words and makes others bold.

    But the gist of what he does is state that it's okay to do things differently from the way he does, but then hypocritically come back whining about anyone who posts about a different methodology.

    The fact remains, that I play table min to table max at blackjack. That's the way I was playing trip after trip, when the ban hammer came down on me - clocking the casinos for mid to high five figures each trip, and that was when table maximums at that casino were only a few thousand. I have been posting about the way I play blackjack for more years than the UNKewl one has been at WOV.

    If the UNKewl one is allowed to keep playing at casinos, rest assured it is because he wins his self admitted $50. - $60. on his winning sessions, then loses his self admitted -$7000. when he loses, for net losing results. He is allowed to play blackjack because he is a loser, who even when he wins causes about as much annoyance to the casinos as a gnat with its wings pulled off.

    Oh, let me repeat that the way his diseased schizophrenic mind might have written it,

    If the UNKewl one is allowed to keep playing at casinos, REST ASSURED it is BECAUSE he wins his self admitted $50. - $60. on his WINNING sessions, then loses his self admitted -$7000. when he loses, for net LOSING results. He is allowed to play blackjack because he is a loser, who even when he wins causes about as much annoyance to the casinos as a GNAT with its wings pulled off.
     
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    How stupid! The only person that would do something like this is one who follows a queer around like a puppy dog with anxiety issues.

    Someone like that would be some like....you.
     
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    When does he ever have time to play?
     
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