Baccarat The BIG Question

You are not wrong. I am going to believe that my mother was one of the ones that did the best she could. I could even be wrong. I do not care.

I know I was given a unique life...that is enough.

 

Just to make sure we're on the same page, I listed our inability to see patterns as a deficit, not a positive attribute.

So far as me being a compulsive gambler, there's no chance of that. If someone isn't paying me to gamble, I don't even think about it.

I'm a hired assassin, I'm not a murderer

 

Frank, Did you see a doctor about your hernia?

 

OH and in answer to your question at the beginning of your thread. I don't think ANY winning can be attributed to AP. While you can learn to play a certain way and be successful there are many many more with the same method unsuccessful.. That is a fact. You mentioned before meeting the blackjack team. ONE sentence or maybe two in a show about them one said they also lost bankrolls. There was no x to y or won more than they lost comparison....just we lost bankrolls.....

Everybody that watches poker over the years attribute winning to being a skilled poker player. While some of it may be true you still have to have a good card flow. Doyle Brunson sat out two years I think it was off of tv because in his words he wasn't getting the cards. My take and I could be wrong is that his hands were not meeting the mathematical expectation. He came back as again in his words I'm getting the cards now.

Daniel Negrano is one of my favorites. I watched him saying he lost several bankrolls before he made it. Doyles book he failed and went home built back a bankroll went back and I think if I remember correctly failed again and this is the godfather of texas holdem.

While some skill is involved in all card games IF the order of the cards don't fall in your favor you lose... yes that simple.... The only aquired skill in baccarat is the knowledge of expectation singles to doubles to triples and so on. Its what you do with that knowledge....

You can pick one side bank or player. You can walk up to any bac table and place 3 bets on chosen side. Regardless of wins or losses use a progression and go to another table or casino and perform the same 3 bets. Guess what. You will eventually reach a 50% strike rate and with a mild progression win a couple or more of units. Yes it is that easy... FFFC worked even better for me lose or win 3 units and on to the next casino....
Did both with out a daily loss. Skilled? obviously not. Math expectation? Yep.....

 

I think you bring out very good points there. Extremely good, and you summed up my reservations about gambling in general. I fundamentally don't care for activities that have to be executed, and your results logged to be deemed good or bad.

I do not need to jump off a cliff to know it's a bad idea, and I do not need to eat food or drink water to know I should.

Gambling has a very unwelcome aspect of required trial and error. This is why I always stuck to things I could calculate to be in my favor at home prior to ever playing a hand.

~FK

P.S. Thanks again to everyone in this forum for talking to me about all this BS with my mother. It has really helped me. I wish I could contribute more to all of you in some way. I fear my weird gambling career experience isn't all that useful in this venue.

 

Yes I did. I have not yet scheduled the surgery. To be Frank, I'm terrified at the prospect. The only other time I had to go for a surgical operation was for wisdom teeth. It did not go well. They couldn't keep me under anesthesia and pain medications do not appear to work on me. Apparently, or so I'm told, I lack opiate receptors in my brain, which not only results in pain meds working poorly, it also results in my experiencing more pain. It's not a catch 22, it's more a situation of being impaled on the horn of a mono-lema.

Due to my odd physiology, I have been rejected by 3 doctors thus far. I am exploring other options.

The medical community does not seemed inclined to deal without outliers such as myself.

 

Doctors care about two things, making money and not getting sued. In that order. With you I would assume they see multiple lawsuit possibilities so they will avoid you.

 

Could you please stop being right so I can disagree with you...

 

I would go as far as to say that.

I've no idea how much disposal income you had when you were at your peak? I was wondering how you kept a lid on it all and how you handled it physiologically? No time for fools, restlessness and inpatient, small change hindrance, low tolerance for negativity, superiority feeling are a few of the traits that spring to mind for anybody that is rinsing any casino.

 

I wouldn’t stress a surgery. Dental is completely different, I’m like you in that regard. I feel everything in a dental surgery. Gas would probably be the only thing that works for us in the dental field. But man… when you go to the hospital and get a surgery, the only thing you’re gonna feel is the IV, the last thing you’ll remember is counting backwards on the operating table and *poof* you wake up in recovery with pain meds that’ll make you loopy as hell and not give a shit about anything. It’s actually quite nice in a screwed up way.

 

@Frank Kneeland Wow, Frank. Hard to believe an IV won't do the trick. I'm fortunate that kind of stuff doesn't really bother me. I've had a few implants - just used Novocain - I fell asleep in the chair! I had hernia operation and the anesthesiologist comes in with his rap. I said no worries there's only two outcomes here. Either I wake up or I don't.

Everyone is different.

 

It's possible IV would work. I hadn't thought about the fact that dentists use gas.

 

Physiologically, it took its toll. I also agree with your statement about feelings of superiority. Sometimes I was the only person in an entire casino playing with an edge. You see all these idiots around you playing horrible machines and avoiding the good ones. The Palace station used to have two progressive banks of 578 JKR machines next to a bank of non-progressives with the EXACT SAME PAY-TABLE. I used to love to walk by the non-progressives and mention to people playing,

"Hay, you know those machines right next to you are identical except the Royal pays three times as much?"

Not one person ever moved. One person even said, "Progressives are harder to hit." I of course replied, "Actually since the royal is higher you bend more to hit it so they are significantly easier to hit. The machines you're on have a 48,000 RF cycle, whereas the progressive version is only about 39,000 hands." They ignored me.


That sort of thing goes to your head, though I always tired to be kind to the pumpers as without them I did not have a job. My motivation for trying to get the non-progressive players to play the progressive was to pump it up for my team to play it down.

I did not understand the other things you said:

1. No time for fools
2. restlessness and inpatient
3. small change hindrance
4. low tolerance for negativity

These don't resonate. Could you elaborate?

 

I used to try and wise people up in roulette, it is a phenomenal waste of time. For instance I saw a guy years and years ago betting on the first and second dozen and doing nothing but winning because the third dozen was sleeping, duh. It eventually woke up and he kept right on betting on the first and second dozen losing his money twice as fast as he had won it. When I pointed out to him what was happening he looked at me like I was out of my freaking mind and kept playing till all his money was gone. Gamblers always think they know what they're doing and you're not going to dissuade them of it. Ignorance is bliss applies here in spades. And of course when all his money was gone he started berating the dealer that the game was fixed, it sucked him in with a winning streak and then took all his money. I love it when they do that, make total idiots out of themselves. It's so entertaining. In the ongoing chat at Bovada they constantly do that when they're losing.

 

Now you know that that is not true. You have always said never to wise up anyone. You prided yourself on this. It was your mantra. All you did was say how wonderful you are at it and that it makes no sense to tell anyone what your secrets are. Jeeeeeeeez!

 

And where do you think I learned it, walking in the woods? I learned it by trying to wise people up and finding out it's a waste of time. And sometimes you break your own rules because you just feel sorry for people. They're doing something really stupid and you want to point it out to them so you just learn to eventually keep your mouth shut. How do you learn things, revelations from God? I learn by making mistakes, the old-fashioned way.

 

And for years we passed on that great wisdom coined by spike " Never wise up a chump ".

 

typo I meant to say "wouldn't", just wanted to clear that up.

When you on a decent winning streak, your wallet has so much cash in it you can't close it, have envelopes stuffed with cash about your person. You walk taller, with a confident swagger. No time for fools. nay sayers stealing your time, listening to negativity ("you got lucky, be careful", tools on the net calling you out), go to a shop for cigarettes they give you coins in the change which now has your wallet bulging further, a right pain, ditto grabbing a taxi, low denomination notes, When you're on a long win streak with a decent return, speaking for myself, I'm wired, difficultly in sleeping, too much adrenalin pumping around your body, just wondering if you experienced any of that.

 

A hard learned lesson. It's actually a take on w.c. fields saying never give a sucker an even break. Or never try and teach a pig to sing, it won't work and it just makes the pig angry. You cannot wise people up, especially gamblers. The worst gambler in the casino is absolutely convinced he knows what he's doing and you'll just piss him off by trying to tell him differently. You could give the same guy good advice about what he's doing wrong with this lawn, and he would appreciate it. Tell him what he's doing wrong in the casino and he'll treat you like you've got a big wad of dogshit stuck to the bottom of your shoe. LOL

 

The gambler junkies high, never had it. Ever since I started playing roulette I've always had a goal and when I hit the goal I quit. Because the gambler junkies high is always followed by the inevitable gambler junkies bust. Who in their right mind wants to live like that. So now I have it whittled down to the inevitable one unit and I'm done. Slam bam thank you ma'am and I'm out of there.