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Baccarat A serious question: do you think legitimate casinos will try to cheat you?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Nah, only chickens shit, scared loser recreational player blame casino cheatings for their losses, hey hey.
     
  2. TwoUp

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    Yeah that don't happen at the hey hey kitchen table casino, where it's free chips and endless markers.
     
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  3. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Nobody with half a brain subscribes to the john-O bulls-shit, hey hey.
     
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    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    Anyone with a full brain will see that some members actually post something useful and of value, whilst some others just say <insert turd here> hey hey.
     
  5. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    I agree t5hat the limey provide entertainments value, like the spike; just don't expect me to take his fantasy-lands, baccarats bulls shit, talls tales serious, hey hey.
     
  6. TwoUp

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    Thats fine I never expected anything anyway.

    But you could approach it differently, more strategically and ask questions, to expose these lies and tall tales you speak of.

    The responses, or lack thereof, are always more telling than any baseless accusation and everyone stands to learn something.

    Remember it's impossible for anyone to lie consistently over time when they are spinning a story.
     
  7. soxfan

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    The john-O has made Heaps of contradictory statement that just leave me shaking my head. Real serious cats what win well and regular do sufficient testings yet the limey harumph saying btesting is not important. When you talk utter foolishness and nonsense you lose yer credibilities, full stop, hey hey.
     

  8. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    You mean like when some HIV infected habitual low IQ oxygen thief claims to have won $250k per annum over the last 12 years, yet lives in some bed-sit in Toronto!!!

    Maybe ignore cockfan, he's like stepping in dog-shit, offering nothing.

    In regards to the said casino cheating, it actually happened down-under, Sky City Adelaide, unlike casinos in UK which are private members clubs and they can ban you without reason, down under they will invent / create a situation, or resort to any other form of skulduggery. What I didn't know at the time is the distinction casinos have in regards to locals vs visitors, I've posted it before, I don't wish to repeat it again, certainly not on a forum infected by a an absolute idiot.

    Suffice to say the exact date was Sunday 4th July 2004, I know this because I just looked up my session records, here is an excel snippet which shows why they decided to take action and obviously the heat was off the scale prior to the 4th.

    And yes I involved the Government inspector, which made no difference.

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  9. soxfan

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    yup, it was the grand conspiracy, with the free-mason rigging every shoe in the joint on every table in the joint down under just to put the kibosh on the john-O anti-streaks style! Of course, even solid winnings style like anti-streaks can run sideways-bad for a coupla hundred shoe. But then cats what don't test sufficient or play on a serious basis wouldn't know that, right, hey hey!!!!
     
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  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    And bang on queue, the tool can't help him-self wades and fuck knows what the envious odious ugly excuse of a man is making assumptions, who's mind isn't so much twisted as badly sprained, but at least Kurt another vacuum likes it.
     
  11. TwoUp

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    Almost, but not quite, it was the Rosicrucians, who you would know were very influential on societies much later in history including the Freemasons.

    Those Rosicrucians are dug in deeper than an Alabama tick, practically can't buy, a deck of casino cards, continuous shuffle machine or kitchen table that hasn't had their hidden hand in its construction, distribution or maintenance.

    My advice, don't assume they haven't compromised your kitchen table testing, the corruption, it runs deep.

    I know... It's a bit of a red pill, blue pill moment soxfan.

    You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
     
  12. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Here the thing, any seasoned pro knows this.

    When you get WHACKED & HARD due to busting a negative progression, it's hard to get over. So the first thing one does is explore Flat and Positive betting, yeah I'm been and done it, except neither work. No doubt Hughie got WHACKED & devastatingly HARD, hence his super revelation (flat bet the Bank), Lool.

    Man, I would have paid stone cold cash to have been there, I wonder if the tapes still exists, Toronto casino right??
    The drive or taxi home would have been PEACH, sweet, I bet ya still remember it hey Hughie? Have ya got over it yet, rumoured to be a rather large, very large sum, I'm literally crying with laughter as I type this, if ya still had the stones for a cab, I hope you tipped him, despite your head swimming.

    Much door banging??? How many "hey's hey's did ya scream out???

    What about the day after, how did that go for ya??? Didn't kill the bulldog by any chance, it's noticeable you neither strive to feed it or can afford cashews or even a pint of guinness, such a shame, such a shame. My latest trip rpt, coming shortly, I know your gonna love it.
     
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  13. soxfan

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    Keep squealing like the little cunt you are petey keating. Yer just a scared, chickens shit loser recreational player. You whine and snivel say that it's all just gambling unless you have +ev. And then you flush +ev down the loo by making dumb wager on player and compound that by making RETARDED hedge wager on tie, and then hey, follow some Oriental cat's wager cuz he running hot. And to top it off you use the labby a very very highly inefficient style to use at the baccrats table. Keep posting up more fiction talls tale and bulls shit like the fourm courts jester you are only good for entertainments value. Just a coupla few serious cats on here, the fathead, the jae and a coupla others but yu ain't one of them, hey hey.
     
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  14. Junket King

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    Talking of inefficient style of play, did you consider you own predicament before posting that, just like did you consider the consequences if that last wager you made never came home? I guess not.

    You left off the utterly boring Nathan or is it Karl or Kurt, he's a real serious cat, his tales and gambling advice is priceless as well as making a great read.
     

  15. Junket King

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    Karl, Kurt of perhaps kunt, which is it? If ya walked naked to your corner shop, you still wouldn't get noticed, you need to change your ID to the grey man.


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  16. Jimske

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    Yup. All those years supposedly making a quarter mil a year averaging 4 units a shoe net playing 25 shoes a week he's on these forums and actively testing other systems looking for a way to win. Pffff!!
     
  17. JacobBlaze

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    I honestly have my suspicions.

    Especially here overseas.

    There's CCTV watching all your moves/bets/ analyzing how you bet, and what you win and lose to etc.

    Especially playing solo.

    I think the preshuffled decks have barcodes that tell the casino the flavor of the shoe, and at least here they bring a shoe from the back almost every reset of the shoe. And if there's a deck supposedly ready they often times come snatch it and replace it saying they need that deck for another table etc.

    I don't play high enough yet,.and not sure if I honestly trust $1k flat bets here. Sometimes I ask can they bring another shoe besides the one that is there ready for the next reset.. and that's obviously a NONO...

    But I guess you could change your style, every shoe so they don't know what you will be betting on etc...

    But flat betting banker or player after a certain setup in the Main road I think is too predictable and can get clipped by casino CCTV/AI bet watchers etc ...

    That is why I am amazed by Jae and his team just betting bankers with his OSCAR SYSTEM. It would be too easy in my opinion for the casino to constantly throw him PLAYER flavored shoes and take him.and his team out.

    I tried his.method but used one of the derived Roads as my bet triggers. Was successful to the tune of almost $10k USD at one casino,.starting at $100 bets.. then gave almost all back at another casino.

    I think it wouldve recover the almost 200 unit loss if i.wouldve kept Oscaring. But quit that style, as you really need the 500 to 2000 unit bank recommend by Jae. And I honestly hate being in the whole so much..and don't want to risk a $200k bankroll on that method loo.

    But my friends/trusted extended family members have tried my version of Jaes Oscaring at the stadium live bacarat they have here... They have $2 bet minimums, so I quickly trained them on Jaes Oscaring but using one of the Roads for the grind... And had them do kitchen table testing to Make sure they got it and then finally live paper testing at the machines to make sure they got it..

    Then i fronted them $2k, so they had 1000 units.. at $2 unit.

    So far in limited play they haven't busted the 1000 units but have dropped 500 to 600 units at a time before recovering.

    They are only targeting 20 units a day And quit and split the $40.

    Here their average salary is about $8 to $12 a day so they are happy with that.. and I am happy to help, and train.

    The stadium setup is super Six so they have big issues when that hits and of.course more grinding to recover.

    They have had about 10 successful trips and I'm there at the high limit tables. They have played as little as 1 hour, and as long as 12 hours to make their 20 units..

    they honestly lack the disciplined and are often.bored waiting for a shoe to qualify and be at the virtual loss of -25 units I require....before they begin Jaes' Oscaring..

    They only have 2 shoes going at these casinos live dealer stadium bac. But they have the lowest limits I've found here $2 lol

    They haven't played for weeks now and maybe that is too much of a grind for them, as I also require for them to be paper testing at home and send me.the pics, before I'll keep putting up the capital.. but they haven't been asking to play or sending me pics of their practice...etc. The old saying "u can lead a horse to water but u can't make them drink etc" is what comes to mind...

    This game is boring I admit, but it's more of the challenge of winning (can this game be beat)s to me that keeps me kitchen table testing...

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  18. JacobBlaze

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    And the common sense kicks in...is it worth risking $2k for $40
    And the common sense question comes in to play... Why not just give them $40 instead of risking $2000 etc ...
     
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    There are a number topics in your quote here but to deal with the main topic of cheating is my first post reply . I will come back later for the other topic of interest.

    Firstly hopefully you are enjoying yourself in overseastopia, lol.

    As for cheating practices re pre shuffle decks. Are they just playing with your head? By saying or swapping out the next deck from your location to or from another do you think that they just be playing on the average gamblers superstition, paranoia that they are in fact ON TO YOUR HOLY GRAIL? If your flat betting hungies and Asians are dropping by with thousands in your shoes and they lose , and most likely lost more than you have won in that shoe , what amount of calculations do they have to do to rebalance the books to recoup your +$200 from that shoe. I know small venues are risky but the shoe swap for your thought of reason this quote , no not likely. That sort of thinking is unprofessional and will Lead you to “tilting” when variance kicks in and the shoe components are not matching your methodology.

    Quite possibly they are just psychobabbling you. Nip it in the bud , play your game not theirs. Lol.

    Im enjoying your posts this trip out. Cheers
     

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