Baccarat Who's with you at the Baccarat Table?

Here is a question for those that make it to the gaming tables.

Going to be open and honest, share your own thoughts.

Who is with you at the Baccarat table, more to the point what is going through your head during adversity, are you battling alone, or is somebody helping you out??

Speaking from personal experience when your winning and everything is running smooth, nobody is with you. When you're battling, losing is it just me with the inner self talk?

When I first started playing Baccarat, it was a Aussi casino hustler who got me into the game after observing me playing Roulette. After hanging around with him for a few years he had the gift of saying the right things to build my ego and prowess for the game of Baccarat, he basically instilled in me during this time I am the best LOL.

Whether a good or bad thing, that's how it played out. So many years later, despite being 12000 miles away, if I'm under the cosh, he is in my head, telling me "I'm better than this", "or occasionally telling me to go for it" which I tend to ignore.

I also have my own ego telling me to relax and grind things back and low and behold nameless identities on this forum, I'll think something like, they'll be loving this seeing me under pressure, or if I blow my BR, while not constant, they will flirt in my subconscious and then piss off, it all adds to the motivation to succeed and not fail. So thanks fella's your negativity has a positive impact.

An example is the recent comments about too high a goal target had me quitting recently due to fatigue.. Winning only 9 bets from 30, I recall Jimske's words, to the effect that I'm due some wins while attacking the next shoe. However when under pressure there isn't much to think about when playing mechanically other than "how much you gonna bet next". Up and pull, bet 2u or 3u and drop back down to protect the prior win, been doing that a fair bit, JP will be proud.

But the main stay is that casino hustler, he knew more about casino operations than I ever did, a lot of half truths too. I really don't know if it was a good or bad thing, because he and he alone kinda instilled that, in his words, "not unbeatable, but very hard to beat".


I'll share one occasion many years ago, I was playing AS4 solo, usually he was with me, but on this Sat night he was out on the town. I was losing heavily, about $8k down and I don't know exactly I had left perhaps a $2k BR. In walks my Jiminy Cricket, tell him the situation, he gets annoyed, as we had had a very good week and I've practically blown it.

He said to me in no uncertain terms, something I'll never forget, "I'll get it back", my response was something like "fuck off" how you gonna win $8k from a $2k bankroll. He replied "give us your money".

I hand him the $2k, we found an empty Baccarat table, he knew all the dealers and them him. So he says to the girl, I need fast shoes, deal as fast as you can (haha). You are allowed to bet both sides, so he's betting Banker and Player separate boxes at the same time, losing when a B6 wins. I don't recall the bet amount, switching to AS4 when it appeared, MM was a Fibo.

15min shoes, we being cheeky shoo'd away anybody who wants to play at the table, bang bang bang, he was it for hours, I left him to it. I don't recall how long it took many many hours, but yes he turned $2k into $10k. I said to him, can we go for profit LOL, he said no, he was knackered, so it was recoup only. I gave him a fat tip and a lift home. I asked him "how the fuck did you pull that off", he replied "Jesus told me, I asked Jesus". LOOOLLL

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not religious, he could have said the Satan told him for all I care, the only thing on my mind was getting my money back. And this is what it was like, I'd look after him, he'd watch my back, observing what's going on around me, if I was tired, he'd take over for me at the tables,

So it is to be expected, whenever I'm under pressure **** is there building my ego, or if I'm about to go on tilt? "He'll be saying, you're better than that"..

Do you battle alone, is your inner ego a hindrance or blessing.

 

I am usually at the tables by myself. Well without people I know. I know what I’m doing and I concentrate. However, as to not be anti social or give the pit any reason to be suspicious, I will talk with other players and make jokes about how stupid my play is or that the dealer is trying to screw me. But I do have the inner ego guiding me through especially some hard times. I don’t make it known what I’m doing to the table or the dealer. They have seen too much and know too much in the event that I get a hot streak.

I prefer my wife to be playing somewhere else which she usually does by playing machines and video poker because she can’t sit still long enough to play table games except for Pai Gow which she loves. If she’s breathing down my neck she distracts me because I feel like she’s bored waiting for me to stop playing or she’ll tell me to get off the table after a couple of losses. She knows I have methods to my madness but doesn’t care.

So for me, I prefer to play by myself unless I have people I know very well.

 

I love the live dealer machines. I get my own little table I can eat there not being bothered by anyone. No more annoyances from hour-and-a-half games, no more people cashing in, coloring up, whining about this or that. Everybody on one side, me on the other and them all freaking out. And if I win they think I know something. LOL. Where I play for years mostly all Asians. Even now.

Yes it was a little intimidating being the only one in thes table losing. But at the same time sometimes I was the only one on the table winning. It doesn't really matter. I always played my own game and hope I didn't look like an idiot. LOL.

When I first started playing years ago at Foxwoods I was the only American there. After a while they all recognized me and every time I walked in they invite me to their table and say "Here's a seat over here for you." We always got along pretty well though.

But with the machines that's all over.

 

I actually meant "mentally", in your head, "self-talk". I guess I never came across as intended.

 

I just saw this and had to say.... Johno...More sound advice than any other poster on the web......Both here and GG......
He has helped me numerous times..... I don't think he realizes how much he has contributed over the years....
There are ones with their own blogs and board sections that when you read them they are imaginary players. Big egos and extremely long winded that has no function in the real world.
His play is outlined and real. Real play real results real bet selections. Recently he helped me with my composure at the table.... I gave up entirely to easy. Now when it goes south I know I can play it out......

 

Every single thing in the first post in this thread is the reason why I only play to make one unit. Why on Earth would I want to put myself through any of that when I don't have to. I know how much I want to make in a session and the amount is small enough and reasonable enough that I can make it with one win. Or quit when I'm one unit ahead. I've used this analogy before because it's good. If I have an eight-hour job but I can get everything I need to get done in 2 hours, why would I spend 8 hours doing it. And I've been in that position. Why would I spend any time at all putting myself through the psychological torture described in the first post in this thread when I don't have to. What you should be looking at is why do you choose to play this way, why do you do this to yourself when you know damn well you don't need to. You must have some inner need for this, the anguish and the melodrama of it. I think once you come to realize that you will try and change it for the better. You should only be in this for the money, there should be no other motivator. I don't do this because it's fun, or challenging, or exciting, I do it for the money, so I trimmed my strategy down to the bare bones. 1 unit ahead and my session is over.

Don't get me wrong, I'm human, I get those feelings sometimes with that little voice telling me to keep playing, there's a lot more money to be made here. But the voice is not very loud, the voice of greed, and I easily ignore it. This kind of greed is always destructive, always regretted later. I learned that the hard way as we always have to learn everything, the hard way.

 

Only took about 5 minutes for the page to load and ability to reply to this post, hank admin you absolute banana. Kind words Porky, thank you, if ya ever feel frustrated at the Bacc' table, just say to yourself "it is a test", "the casino are testing my patience", and as everybody should know already, never ever do what the casino want or expect you do, i.e keep betting bigger and bigger.

When I'm losing hands and my BR is being depleted, I go so far and then perform mini-recoveries, as opposed to doing a massive recovery.

You really shouldn't comment on your own assumptions, it will makes the place less peaceful.

I'm 100% confident your goal target wasn't 1 unit when you ventured to B&M casinos, not that that claim and your strike rate has any credence. As for any little voice in ones head, when you are winning, I find from personal experience, it is quite, silent, nothing it telling me "win more, win more", that would just be a judgement decision at the time.

Again, it is only my experience, when I'm under pressure, losing, that is when my inner thoughts will draw on positivity from something or somebody, such as a what gambling buddy would say "xxxx you are betting that this", "leave it, let it go", change tables", which may prevent me going on tilt.

Many times even now, I'm remind myself advice from others "do not to play the end of the shoe", I've made money, bail at hand 55~60, the casino want you to play be the entire shoe, fuck 'em, never do what they want. A female gambling buddy, won't bet the end of a shoe, because if ya lose those bets, there is nowhere to go, now you have to wait for the next one. There are those thoughts which stem from somewhere and the mental affirmations when you are under the cosh. I find both help me personally, which is why I started this thread. I hate losing, I can't take it in my stride and laugh it off.

If I lose an unusual number of hands in a row, I think of Jimski and what he posted, that I will be due wins, as it is basically a 50-50 game.

BTW sharing my thoughts openly on forums, helps me immensely, transferring my thoughts into print, makes me stop and think, most DEFINITELY re-evaluate.

Yesterday I posted about my tough session on Friday, how one little "head-rush", had me working over-time. Now 48 hours later, I've realised, of all the bets place on Friday, no idea how many, let's say 500,



This is what fucked me up, 5 bets out of say 500 placed, in the grand scheme of things, such a small segment. That old gambling cliche, "the best way out of a hole, is to stop digging".

Because I typed this shit up because I've shared what happened, it's made me realise and appreciate the potential damage just one small portion of any session can be. Now I'm aware hopefully I'll handle a similar situation better when it next presents itself. When you want to win, you will draw from anywhere and anything in order to succeed.

Session #13 coming up later (unlucky omen?), I'm going back to where I usually frequent, fuck having to wait until 10pm for an open table and playing until 4am

 

I cannot imagine letting it go that far. Everything I concentrate on is losing less. Screw the winning, that will take care of itself when you're concentrating on losing less. Everything I do is centered on losing as little as possible. That is why I only play to make one unit. Risk-taking sucks, losing sucks, risking a reasonable amount with a very slim chance of losing doesn't suck. If you find yourself constantly fighting back from losing positions something is wrong with your game plan. Or you are in this for completely different reasons than I am. I'm here to make money, not for the Sturm and Drang melodrama of at all. I leave that to the degenerate gamblers. God bless em, they love the emotional ups and downs of it all. Screw that..