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While that does has an impact, it is not the only cause, inequality, lack of opportunity, enslavement of a race then after 400 years plus a few decades of apartheid, whitey thinks it's okay to say, "there you go, no hard feelings you can't trace your ancestry, you lost your cultural identity, ya'll are free, but behave y'all selfs now, ya hear. You'll get my drift further down.

Far from over. Only this week the Putin sent his war-ships down the English Channel instead of going around as a show of defiance.

I can see that, there is only so much time I am willing to devote in order to get a point across to less than a dozen people on a gambling forum, which afterwards is not going to make one iota of difference.

A few things you post, I've no idea what they mean. rosbif = fuck-knows, looks like an abbreviated insult. WtP, I've no idea what that is either, nor what a Maloo is. However you were spot on when you say, "what ameriKa does, affects the entire world, which is why the entire world looks at ameriKa when there is an election.

That's not really the point, people can have a bad day, hubby an all round stand-up nice guy, discovers wify has been playing around behind his back. Hubby looses it and goes on a killing rampage, even worst when he owns a fully automatic. I'd love to have a gun, been a long time since I wore a uniform, but it made me feel powerful, it was exciting, the equaliser. However if that means that every dick-head on my Terrace might also own a gun, then no thanks. Girl Friend argument, strung out on coke, drunk, minor neighbourly dispute, no thanks I'd rather not take that chance. I might think I am responsible but I'm not so sure about my neighbour if our dogs get into a fight in the park. Or how the fat kid might one day flip after all the teasing he's taken and grabs Daddies gun, see what I mean. I'd rather not have the opportunity present itself, because the outcome is lethal. I understand if every body on the block has one, then you don't want to be the odd one out, the genie is already out the bottle.

I can understand that. It is a bit like the 60's and 70's in the UK. There were Black people in the UK, but society wasn't that accommodating. Go into any main town city Centre which employs 100's of people and you would be lucky to find more than 5 non-white people working in shops or stores, in some places the figure was zero. It's fine and dandy stating all this equal opportunity bullshit, if Daddy was on the home front (well he couldn't get a job, so he might as well as be). Eventually it lead to riots up and down the country in the early 80's. Slowly things began to change, no longer did Black soccer players get called monkey or have banana's thrown at them during games. Not only have laws been passed to stamp out all the racist and homophobic bullshit from society, but integration has made incredible bounds, yet still has a long way to go. There still exists a certain level of racisms in the UK, even worst in Oz, and not helped by Islamic acts of Terrorism, which then results in the finger being pointed at everybody.

So high rates of gun violence in Black area's, Whites feel safe because they own a gun and feel like they are less likely to stress out. Well no surprise there, deprived neighbourhood, less affordable housing, less employment, strung out communities high on PCP, crack and whatever, how much truth that the CIA imported / allowed the importation of coke to pay for ameriKa's illegal wars in Latin ameriKa and to keep the Black communities pacified? White people get scared, "damn Martha can't we string a few up to keep the rest in line"!! So yes, the problem is not guns per~say, rather easy access in a society awash in guns.

The problem doesn't stop at there being too many guns in ghetto-land, or because of absent fathers, rather the lack of integration.. There have been a few posts on this site that highlights you have a long way to go. It has only been less than 50 years that certain folk were expected to sit on the back of the bus, use different water fountains, couldn't walk into a cafe, had acid poured into swimming pool, such deep rooted hatred will take a few hundred years to eradicate, if ever, if there is any society left to integrate into.

I'm sure gun violence is greater in the Brazilian Favelas, it's down to inequality, poverty, lack of opportunities, isolation, racism, everything being sub-standard (sanitation, water, health care) a society of haves and have nots. So I have to steal, in order to steal it will be better if I have a gun. Sure not all react like that, but when you are dealing with certain elements of the population that may have received little or sub-standard education, it can be challenging to reason with them. Was it due to Capitalism that Fords decided to move out of Detroit and build cars in Spain and left the government to pick up the mess. I don't know where the answer lies, I've already spent too long responding and am beginning to feel frustrated cos I've dog to walk and money to make in a few hours at my local casino.

See above, cause and effect. They can be if they are easily accessible, it is NOT just absentee fathers that are the issue.

I've no idea if events such as Sandy Hook, Columbine took place in the dates you mention, other than gangsters like Al Capone and the Valentines Day shoot out.

Yep, agree totally. I'll be walking my dog in the park in a few minutes, an altercation happens, angry words exchanged, chain lead swung, gun drawn but not fired, retribution is guaranteed, nobody gives a fuck that one person is going 6 foot under while the under is being sent to the big house for a 10 stretch. No thanks, want no part of that.

 

so when does the slavery excuse go away? My father had his entire family slaughtered in Poland,and their possessions confiscated. He started in THIS country without a penny, without speaking a word of english, looking different than typical americans, and still was able to raise a family where education was a priority. Still was able to sacrifice for his children, save every penny, go without things he may have wanted for himself, ...without using the slaughter of his family as an excuse for failure. His family was not slaughtered generations before him like slavery....nope...it was recent....very recent. He and other immigrants in similar situations had 2 parent households, disciplined households with education being a big priority. A low priority was possessing fancy things or the latest gadgets. A low priority was keeping up with the jones's.
So why cant other white people or people of color do the same thing without looking for excuses. Why cant people born in this country with english as their first language do the same thing without looking for excuses.
The non english speaking,"different looking" immigrants of the 40s and 50s that came through ellis Island did not produce children that were toxic to society. They produced doctors lawyers, teachers plumbers,carpenters. They didnt produce generations of welfare families or graffiti criminals, or handgun thugs.
So when do excuses stop. When do people take responsibility for their actions.
Imagine closing your eyes at night and thinking about parents, brothers, sisters, cousins, friends, that you had just a few years earlier, and then having to go to work the next day and perform well enough to keep your job in a climate where you are replaceable with another body since you have no real education or language skills. Tens of thousands of people did that....without unleashing unsupervised children into society. Wihtout producing high crime producing off spring.

So can people overcome prejudice,....I say from first hand knowledge.....yes.

back then, there were poor neighborhoods that were totally safe, Where you could keep a window open on a fire escape overnight and not worry.
That was possible because ...even though the neighborhoods were poor, there was 2 parent households, discipline, time spent with kids playing with them and educating them. Not leaving everything on the shoulders of teachers. Parents squirrelled money over a 16 year period to help with college, and the emphasis on education produced high rates of scholarships.

So why cant other communities do this without looking for excuses. Yes, women might have to sacrifice and not spread their legs so easily so as not to put themselves in the position of being alone raising a child. And couples with children might have to forgo nice vacations, or going out clubbing, or gold standard cable packages and gold standard smart phone packages.....in order to save for a childs education and spend more time with their children.

There is always an excuse....slavery, or my parents were abusive, or people dont like how I look, or my school is in ill repair, or i dont like my teacher, or the world is against me, or why try because there are no good jobs out there, .....yeah cry me a river. My father and thousands like him had those same excuses at their fingertips if they were lazy enough to want to use them.

 

Fisk referred you to my comments and you answer with that the gun problem has alot to do with accessibility and not JUST about absentee fathers.

I guess you didnt read what I WROTE.
abscentee fathers
irresponsible women spreading their legs without thinking about the consequence of unprotected sex
lack of sacrifice by parents for their children
lack of interest in making education a priority
lack of supervision
poor role modeling in front o f children

all the above leads to neighborhoods of disaster, of unchecked young people. Leads to generations of excuses, and poorly educated/under-employed people......people who seek to get what they want through crime.

Back in the daus of the european immigrants...of guns were more available...those neighborhoods would have been just as safe. Without guns, if criminals wanted to act..they could carjack at knifepoint, they could work together in 2's or 3's and knock off local merchants just by physically overpowering them,. hitting them on the head, tiying them up........but that wasnt happening. Guns wouldnt have made a difference.

The developement of a criminal mind is the difference. And that developement comes form the parents orlack of parents....not from the availability of guns.

 

The answer to your questions is very simple, the soft bigotry of low expectations. The two parent family unit is replaced by the government. The Great Society experiment of the Sixties has produced these unintended consequences. Keeping people in poverty is necessary for there to be a middle ruling class in the elitist establishment. Liberals keeping those down on the plantation so that they can care for them. It's a race baiting plan.

 

I think it would help when elements of amriKa stop flying the Confederate flag, not being Black you probably don't realise how offensive it is. How about the next time you see a Confederate flag, bumper plate perhaps, you picture a Nazi flag, then imagine the same being flown from Government buildings, then consider how much you feel part of the community. Also when the KKK are wiped form society, the Charleston church shooting being a prime example. Why did it take such an event before the racist flag was removed.

Having a Black face as your President is a major leap forward, after your first female President, I'm hoping it will be followed by the nations first Latino or Indigenous heritage President, so that the red-necks can continue to fuming for up to 16 years at least.

Wow, some of them do try. Never watched Boyz in the hood", individuals trying to get ahead, only to be kicked back down by racist cops, or worst shot dead.

It's all "Cause and effect". Treat people like people, rather than the neighbourhood nigga's and you might have had a chance. I believe you have little chance, too much damage, too much hatred, too much ingrained racism exists in your society.

I have white relatives \ friends living in the US, back in their home country they socialise with Black people, but in ameriKa, nope just doesn't happen. Every time one of your racist cops shots a Black person, it sets back race-relations for many years to come. I mean cast your mind back to Rodney King, when the fuckers are taken to court, they are always found not guilty. OJ was guilty as fuck, but can you blame the jury?

 

Hey Larry this was my upbringing, my community, which is why I understand it so well and while I can see your viewpoint, will never agree with it. It was not either black or white, many shades of grey, there are cunts on both sides of the spectrum.

Yeah I know it is.

 

Even though I do not share the same race or nationality, this event made me and everybody I know very proud. Similar when Barrack Obama was elected to the highest office in the United States of AmeriKa. Different upbringing and views in life.

 

I was 11 when this occurred. It had an effect. It made you ask questions, which was a good thing.

People forget. Ali did his banking, when training, in my hometown. The idea that Ali was a beloved figure back in the 60's and early 70's is not correct. Many people hated him profoundly.

 

I dont base my view of the world on movies.
"some"?????????????????????????ok I giver you that. unfortunately the MAJORITY outnumbers the "some"......and in inner city schools, the majority views kids that are studious....as trying to be white. There is peer pressure to be cool, and be indifferent to the importance of schoolwork..or even to speak correct english.

Try getting through a job interview without speaking correct english.

But its not a blackissue only.....white folks are also following suit. Just as whites have always copied the black mans music.....there are also white kids acting and talking like hip hop blacks.

White kids without parental supervision as well.

 

so what. I grew up literally in the middleof the newark riots in the late 60s....I was 12 years old.After the riots and after the stores were burnt down and or looted.....we moved out. It wasnt safe any longer for white kids to walk to school without supervision or a bodyguard.

And I have seen that neighborhood deteriorate to the point where it looks like a bombed out third world nation.

As the white businesses moved out..there was less business donations to the churches and to after school sporting teams for children. Churches closed up, empty stores became crack dens, and children had no after school activities.

And the city went into a spiral downward.(watch the same thing happen in Baltimore)

The one parent households took over ...over time......and we have what we have.

Yes I too lived it....and saw first hand how people are in control of their destiny. And in this case the destiny was to create a horrific place to live.
And that is NOT the fault of guns.

 

Sorry to hold you up, JK. Feel free to make me wait, I ain't going nowhere. Make that money and walk that doggy. Hope to be getting myself one soon.

And sorry for the slang. Rosbif is French slang for the English, those in the UK. WtP = We the People, regular ol' Americans. And a Maloo is a ute made by Holden. An Aussie pick up truck, basically, only with near 600hp and a body to die for =)

Anyways, your two points almost completely missed me. Yeah, I get what you say about disenfranchisement, about oppression, about racism. But many of us, usually older, typically "Right", hold to this thing called "personal responsibility". Larry's a jew, right? And Jews have a loooong history of catching flak. The jokes, the cliches, the bigotry, it's pretty widespread. And the Jews have some shit they should be bitter about, if I recall correctly. As Larry provided, his family was slaughtered. SLAUGHTERED. Rounded up, beaten and robbed, gassed, and tossed in a fucking pit. The white half of me is German. Not only German, but a German immigrant. Came to the US in 1944, came here as Larry's grandfather was meeting a fate worse than hell. So let's ask Larry, "Larry, how do you feel about me?" I wonder if I'm a "filthy kraut" to LarryS? I wonder if when he doesn't get a table at a restaurant, or is denied an official application, or experiences ill of any kind, if he blames me, my grandma, my great-great grandfather? Rhetorical, because of course I don't believe that. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Larry gives a sloppy fuck that a good chunk of my blood happens to be Teutonic. AND, that's with his horrors being pretty goddamn close to his lifetime. He might be lucky enough to have living family that ACTUALLY LIVED IT. But how does Larry act? Entitled? Or does he just put his head down and get his because ain't no one gonna give it to him?

400 years of slavery? Sitting in the back of the bus? Confederate flags? My people weren't slaughtered. I didn't lose members of my family. My entire CULTURE was annihilated. We didn't lose houses, or towns, or cities, or even countries. We lost an ENTIRE FUCKING HEMISPHERE. We didn't lose 2-6 million folks to a tyrant. We lost UNTOLD TENS OF MILLIONS to white, Christian Europeans. I imagine you know a jew. Can name a famous jew actor, famous jew doctor, famous jew athlete. How about you name me just one famous Native American that isn't Jim Thorpe? I bet you can't. I have folks of all colors living in my ancestral homelands that have not one, single idea of the history, or our way of life, of the way we were enslaved, rustled out of town, raped, pillaged, or outright murdered. We offer costumes at Halloween to "dress up as us", forget that wearing a headdress is on par with going out in blackface. We have professional sports teams named the "Redskins", forget that it's on par with naming a team the "Niggers". We idolize men like Abe Lincoln, forget that he had a large hand in the Trail of Tears. We deify cunts like Cristobal Columbo, forget that he makes Hitler look like a child throwing a tantrum. And no, that shit ain't 400 years ago, either. Wasn't but in 1968 that my family was rousted from their homelands YET AGAIN and our greatest leader's grave was flooded asunder to make way for the US Army Corps of Engineers' flood abatement plans, in violation of treaty. Wasn't but in 1992 when the State Police came in and attempted shutting down all our commerce, resulting in riots and the complete shut down of my home town. And ain't a year goes by that some white official from NY.gov doesn't again attempt an end around to break treaty and fuck us over again.

You know what my response is? I put my head down and I fucking work. Why? BECAUSE AIN'T NO ONE OWES ME SHIT! All the shit Larry's people have been through, all the shit MY people have been through, and you could carry this on to fat folks, or gypsies, or the Irish, or whomever, and someone is gonna cry to me about the plight of the black man, sitting in back and being denied a loan? I. DONT. FUCKING. CARE. I have no time for those people, will not acquiesce to them, and am a bit glad that crybitches like that have a hard time. Show me a man who puts his head down and WORKS, and I'll show you a man who couldn't give a tin shit about things like "oppression" and "hurt feelings". Black, red, yellow, blue; men are men, will be men, and will be fine. The rest are owed nothing, but perhaps deserve a swift kick in the ass. Stuff your bitching and get the fuck to work, IMO.



On guns, I can understand your points. It's not even just "bad day", but myriad things happen to a person that can suddenly set them off. Sudden job loss, sudden break of relationship, medical issues ranging from severe mental disturbances to simple diabetic difficulties, hell, my personality changes every time I get a concussion. YOU don't wanna be a part of that, so YOU are free to stay out of the US. No problem. But, again, it's your contemporaries that DO live here that I just wanna fucking strangle. Because their answer mirrors yours. Ban, outlaw, or otherwise get rid of them. Well, sorry pard. There's already 300,000,000 plus of them floating around. Say you ban them right now. How you gonna wrangle them all in? My favorite is when my lefty potheads call for the same thing. "Make a law! Ban them!" It's like, dude, you're smoking weed that has the same fucking ban on it. How fucking effective is your ban, other than effectively making criminals rich and customers receiving questionable goods?

It's completely retarded. As you said, the cat's out of the bag. There is simply no way to ban shit, and whatever laws you make, SURPRISE!, only affect those who give a shit about the law. NY is solidly within the Top 5 worst states to be a gunner, everything is licenses and bans and strict rules on capacity and usage and locations you can possess. But i still got me a fully automatic rifle that rips off 800rds p/minute. How? I fucking made it. Built it from parts bought at a shop. I don't need it, didn't even really want it. "Machine guns", at least of this variety, aren't my thing at all. I just had to give the finger to our authoritarian regime, and show my anti friends that their ideas are completely fucking retarded. I did it right after the most restrictive gun law in our history was passed, too. And all it took was $100 and a bit of a drive.

You or any of your lefty contemporaries here are free to rail on our gunner culture. It's fine, everyone does shit that someone else hates, might as well rail on it. But just like anything else, our actions, our habits, our culture, does have areas that are displeasing. Just like you, I too want to address them, to fix them. All I'm trying to do is lead the effort somewhere it might fucking make a difference, instead of a place where all that happens is good people are made criminals, hundreds of millions of dollars are spent, and schools still get shot up a couple times a year. And that effort isn't in making asinine rules and laws (it's already illegal to murder children), but in tackling the problem at its SOURCE. Not the RESULT, but its fucking SOURCE. THAT is what Larry offered above. THAT is what I champion. And I can't for the life of me figure out how no one else sees it, and how no one else isn't directing energy down that avenue.

 

JK reminds me of the bleeding hear liberals here in the 60's and 70's who claim to be the friend of the black man. Many of them were jewish who marched and died with the black community.
But then a bleeding heart lawyer, William Kunsler defended for free a mass murderer Back man..Colin Fergusin........with believe it or not a "black rage" defense. Stating that any black person, because of a lifetime of predjudice.......can be a ticking timebomb and one day explode from it. In this case shooting multiple people on the Long Island Railroad.

"Black rage" defense

Kunstler and Kuby proposed an innovative defense that Ferguson had been driven to temporary insanity by a psychiatric condition they termed "black rage". Kunstler and Kuby argued Ferguson had been driven insane by racial prejudice, and could not be held criminally liable for his actions even though he had committed the killings. The attorneys compared it to the utilization of the battered woman defense, posttraumatic stress disorder and the child abuse syndrome in other cases to negate criminal accountability. Kuby said the notes carried by Ferguson on the day of his arrest demonstrated that Ferguson was motivated by rage during the shootings. Donald E. Belfi, the Nassau County Judge assigned to the Ferguson case, criticized Kunstler for speaking to the media about the proposed defense before it had been examined by a mental health professional. Belfi said, "Mr. Kunstler may have many talents, but until he receives his medical degree with a specialty in psychiatry, these types of conclusions should best be left for medical experts and the triers of the facts."

Here is a liberal white dude thinking he can help a single black man, by fucking an entire black community. Who wants to hire someone that is a ticking timebomb? Do you think this bleeding heart liberal did the black community any favors.

Its these type of excuses that takes responsibility away from the individual and gives an entire community something to bitch about. Maybe they riot because of "black rage". Its amazing.....my fathers people in the United states never exhibited jewish rage by rioting. Or Irish rage in Irish poor communities. They were not fed the bill of goods that others were responsible for their poverty. That others were responsible for their having to have hard manual labor jobs. They werent getting jobs working the perfume counter at Macys......they were in back rooms, hot back rooms baking bread or sewing, or cleaning. No riots needed....dems the breaks.

No "nazi germany rage" was exhibited by the people who lost entire famlies and lived hard lives in the USA. No mass murders, no riots using that as an excuse.

There comes a time when excuses are bogus. There are actually targets and quotas forcing people to hire people of various races....all people need to do is educate themselves....you know...pay attention in school ....value the free education......get a scholarship from their hard work....and then get a good job. The jobs are out there. And there are companies dying to fill their quotas. Even hiring people of lesser qualifications in order to meet their quota.

So cry me a river that the world is like the movie Boyz in the Hood..........yeah, as a hollywood steriotype.

Reality is....TODAY there is great opportunity for those who value education, for those who take education seriously, and for those who work hard to excel at something. Whether is an education based job or a trade. Excel at SOMETHING.

The jobs are out there....even though liberals like William Kunsler want us to believe the black people are walking time bombs

Dont blame guns when criminal minds are cultivated in various communities by not valuing education and excelling at something.

They are sold a bill of goods that sports will get them out of the hood. Yeah ..thats like saying the lottery will get them outof their situation.

 

It's not just a small percentage of blacks that want an excuse to give up. Whites want to blame the 1% for all their failings too. The Gay/Lesbian community wants to blame society for its troubles. Public sector unions want to blame the 1% and they want to over reach even more than they have already. It's all summed up in Social Justice, Economical Justice, and Fairness. I'm sure there's even much more that the libtards want. What's next, Medical Justice? How about a club for untouchable predators with rank. That one could be called Protective Justice. How about Double Standard Justice?

I know. It's Establishment Justice.

 

people can blame all they want. WORDS ARE CHEAP.Its actions that speak.

So if a group of people have a very high rate of fatherless households, and dont value education,and have unsupervised/undisciplined children then crying that they blame someone else for their fate is ridiculous. And the liberals crying that its all about the availability of guns is insane.

There are plenty of neighborhoods accross the country that have stable families and supervised children in loving households..that dont have a murder or violent crime problem.

Thats the answer....its right there in front of everyone.

People just have to correct their behavior in bringing kids into this world, and when they do they have tosacrifice for them and give them every opportunity to succeed.

In the past dirt poor jewish families have done this
Currently. many asian families are doing this...as immigrants often nonenglish speaking, have highly educated children... and disciplined children.

Ever wonder why there is the steriotype of Indian(from india) people owning 7-11's.....thats because they have a stable family structure, and they are willing to sacrifice. Brothers and sisters buy the store, work the store, and have the children chip in and work it when they are old enough. They all might even live in the same apartment in town. They dont splurge on alot of shit, and they make sure their kids study and value education.

They put in alot of hours, its hard work......its not easy.....but they do it. They do it because they know that no one owes them a living. They know that even though society calls them all kinds of names and makes fun of their accents and broken english....they have to do something for themselves.

Slings and arrows of bigotry and prejudice are not owned by one single race. Although you might think that is the case.

There are plenty of people living life without blaming people. TYhey just work hard and dont ask why oh why do I have to work so hard. Life is fucking hard. No one says it has to be erasy......except the folks that create toxic neighborhoods and bemoan their fate as if its someone elses fault.

maybe if u watch Fox or CNN you see people bitching But in general people go to work and raise their families and cant be bothered with excuses.

 

You had the Newark riots, I had the ones nearby in Plainfield.

That once vibrant town is now a pale shadow of its former self: the blacks run the government and are in the majority now, after White Flight.

To give you an idea how bad it can get, take a look at Camden, NJ.

Newark is bad; Camden is The Worst.

I lived two towns east of Camden for awhile, in a very nice, well-off pretty much all white town, before leaving NJ forever.

see:

 

I know camden well. THey thought the aquarium was going to revitalize it. No such luck.
I remember as a pre teen hanging in my fathers store, and someone from one of the many churches would come in and ask if he would buy tickets to the all you can eat pancake breakfast fundraiser on sunday.....and he would buy a few...and never go of course...but it was a donation to support the church.
Or the police would come in and ask for donations to the "police athletic league-P.A.L" for after school baseball leagues....and he would give to that....and so it went ......with community support from him and the other white merchants. And in return the community bought merchandise from him and the other merchants...and it was a symbiotic relationship.

When the riots came, the stores that werent torched or looted didnt want to hang around for the next round....plus they couldnt get fire/theft insurance.....at least not for a reasonable price. Too much risk as insurance rates skyrocketed.

So what happened to the churches and baseball leagues???.....bye bye

If you remember, NewarK was a great shopping destination. People would drive in from New York.....and go to the merchants and department stores like Macys and spend the day shopping. There was no sales tax and then later lower sales tax than new york. People took trains and buses into newark to shop.

The riots changed all that.

With less people coming into Newark...there was less money for the city. Less traffic tickets, less meter money, less money for expired meters. Less money therefore for schools and seniors.

Other towns like Linden, Elizabeth, Plainfield,...had sympathy riots....copycat riots....an opportunity to get free shit.
THe part of Linden that had the riots is a ghost town now.

so the idea is....if you want your city to thrive, and you want churches and school programs to thrive, if you want job opportunities to grow in your community, you want a community safe for your children,...........DONT FUCKING BURN IT DOWN.

who in their right mind will save up their money, and pour it into a business in Oakland,Ferguson, Baltimore, Newark........knowing that a jury verdict...even from across the country ....might lead to the end of your dream....might lead to riots and destruction of everything you worked for.
who the fuck wants that for them and their family.

But then people in those cites will cry that there isnt summer jobs for their kids, no after school programs since there is no money as it was spent on overtime for cops during the riots and for repairs to infrastructure...as businesses close or fail to enter......and as city budgets are crushed when repairing damage from the riots.

There is a cost to behavior.

 

LOL, I watched a BBC documentary last night about Chicago and gun crimes, I can't blame the community in the slightest despite y'alls protestation. A middle aged woman knelling in the street in the blood of her own mother, shouting at the cops, why did you have to kill her. Their response "she'd gone, get over it". A woman who works with the Police happened to be driving down her allyway to get home, a cop car was coming the other way. "Move the fuckin car bitch", gun drawn, woman has her two daughter in the car, 8 and 12 petrified reverses out, thinking they are gonna shot me where there are no witnesses.

Eventually gets rammed, her and her children are pepper sprayed, she is charged with manslaughter which is thrown out blah blah. Yes I am well aware of the annihilation of ameriKa's indigenous population, Jews (they are doing the same today to the Palestinians). However racist cops killing, terrorising the black community is happening today, because other persecuted races may have felt helpless to other world events, doesn't mean the Black community has to lie down and take it. "Yes sir massa", fuck that, get out their and protest, and it the need arises, take some of them out with you.

It's gonna take a lot of energy to go to college and get an education, keep a lid of things, when you are constantly called nigger, live in fear of being shot by some scum racist half-wit in a uniform. It takes civil insurrection before you can involve change, more lives need to be lost, more building need to go up in flames, body cam's for your cops. Fuck it, don't expect people to conform and behave in a corrupt society.

It ain't the 30's, 40's or even the 60's no more where people lay down and took it. You can maintain all the decorum and spout the rhetoric you want, I ain't getting played.

Probably all warriors, Geronimo, Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull, who also took no shit.

So much for the effectiveness of arming a community to prevent Government doing what they like, you kinda just contradicted an earlier point you made..

No, we both know that won't work. You could ban AR15's, AK47's and the like, yes they will still exist on the black market, but perhaps carry heavy penalties if caught with one. And make it even more difficult to get a firearm license, which is something I think Obama was trying to do. This my understanding, that despite the existence of various regulations from state to state, it is possible to by pass all that when purchasing at market-places, car boot sales, I think Michael Moorer covered how easy it was to buy a gun in one of his movies, shit he said Walmart or some other outlet was giving them away when you make a purchase.

Your society is gonna end up like one of those robo-cop movies, whitey living in some ring-fenced gated community and the Latino's, Blacks, being left to fend for themselves the inner-cities, with cops operating like death squads, shooting who they like. If you wanna effect changes at the bottom, it has to start at the top. You arm your military to the hilt, not even bothering to take home used equipment, but still have supplied your racist police force with bodycams. But hey what fucking difference would it make, "cleared by an all white jury", and you wonder why a community rebels, get the fuck outta here.

Not surprised, when will the fucking politicians learn. It was like after the riots in Toxteth 1981, the Tory gov spent a load of money planting trees on a boulevard to make the area look nice, using employees from outside the area.

What? So the nigga's would have trees to swing from, it's not fucking trees and plants, or sports centres that are needed, rather jobs and yes even the racist council could do it's bit by employing "at the time" more black faces. That was less than 30 years ago, things have improved since that time, ameriKKKa has even further to travel. I thought "as an outsider" Obama might have achieved more for race relations, but it seems to have divided your cuntry even more.

 

That's a nice notion but seldom true. Words have consequences. Do you know what it means to Bork someone? In the past 25 or so years it has become only necessary to make an accusation. The liberal media has sold it everywhere that only the accusation is what matters. Of course that only applies to Republicans and Conservatives. Words are not cheap. Jesse Jackson spent decades shaking down corporations with threats that he would expose them as racist if they didn't give his interests money. Never mind if it was true or not. These companies would be in or near the spotlight for any news spotlight story of any tangential reason and Jesse would show up because that's where the cameras where. He would then target and extort his protection racketeering scheme without any consequences from officials. I guess you call this "N" word Justice.

 

The " NEW WORLD ORDER" is afraid of the rising populist movements of leaders like Trump in the USA, Marine LePen in France, Pirates in Iceland and the accomplished fact of BREXIT in the UK , the rise of the AFD ( Alternative for Germany ) in rent elections.


POWER to he PEOPLE !

 

Are you saying that the poor uneducated life of a person raised by a single female 15,16,17,18 year old who in turn was given birth to by a 17 year old.....is due to being called "nigger" ??? I would submit, that in communities like chicago and balitmore...if they hear that word..it would come from one of their own.
Are you saying that their lot in life has nothing to do with a single mom who doesnt know how to parent and doesnt want to learn(the internet is available to all). THeir lot in life has nothing to do with a single parent that doesnt spend time with them, read to them, educate them before and after they enter the school system. Has nothing to do with a single parent not disciplining them...and then unleashing them to a school system where its difficult for a teacher to get through to these children. They are released into a school system where their peers mock those that try to learn as "trying to be white". And at age 17, after they have squandered their education, you ask why there arent good jobs waiting for them???? What the fuck man....are you nuts?
There are affirmative action positions all over theplace. There are spots on the rosters of colleges ...just check off the box that you arent white....and you get a spot further up on the list. However you DO need also some minimal qualifications in High School.....and if you squander your education and are raised by someone who doesnt put emphasis and doesnt participate in educating you.......then even with the ability to cut in line for college admission.....you wont qualify.

So are these folks unsuccessful, because they were called "nigger" and because occasionally a police officer killed someone in the the united states without cause? Or was it more because they and their parent didnt fucking give a shit about education.
People can cut in line for acceptance into college because of race, academic excellence, and financial need........its not hard...if there is a will to work hard.
Liberals love to enable others....giving excuses why theyfail.....blaming others.
In this day and age there is no excuse.

So you say their lot in life is because they were called "nigger" and targeted by police? Blacks are 13 percent of the population and account for 38 percent of murders.And a majority of the murders is of their own people. It seems they dont value the lives of their own, yet they complain when police dont value their lives. The amount of police killings of black people are miniscule compared to the black on black killings.

A black child walking down the street in chicago is more apt to get hit by a bullet from a fellow black man, than from a white police officer.

Having a mom that doesnt show interest in you,...having a mom entertaining a different man in the home every week to the point where you just dont feel safe even in your own home,. having a mom go out clubbing and come home drunk and then hung over the next day, not having a dad to spend time with you and teach you/discipline you, having peers that mock you for trying to excel in school, having a parent that doesnt monitor where you go and who you hang with, being dropped off with moms friends or neighbors while mom goes out........all this very common of a child given birth by a teenager.....especially a teen that was herself given birth by a teen.

And the negative effects of THAT life growing up, is trumped by someone calling them "nigger" and an illegal cop shooting.?? That is reaching