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Roulette Scams SCAM ALERT: RoulettePhysics.com

Discussion in 'Roulette Scams' started by iHeartRoulette, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. iHeartRoulette

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    SCAM ALERT: RoulettePhysics.com

    Staying true to my word and following up on my other threads exposing the roulette scammer Steven George Hourmouzis (aliases 'Steve', 'Stefano', 'Steve Hourmouzis', 'Steven Hourmouzis', 'SteveH', etc.), here are more details on the scam he's running at RoulettePhysics.com (and his network of scam sites).

    So a little while ago there was a 12-minute video uploaded to Youtube titled 'How to fake having a roulette computer!' that exposed him and his fake roulette systems and roulette computers and roulette devices that don't work and lose you money. What did the scammer Hourmouzis do? He had the video taken down by Youtube so he wouldn't be exposed. Don't just take my word for it, see these two pages and see who had the video removed:

    He took it down because the video was true and exposed his roulette systems, computers, and devices for the scam that they are.

    See, this scammer doesn't want you to find out he's a scammer because then you won't send him money for his fake roulette systems that don't work. So he keeps trying to cover his tracks. Notice how he won't even accept a payment from any provider that would allow you to dispute the payment. He only accepts irreversible payments (bank transfers / wire transfers) so that once he has your money, you have no recourse but to sue, which most victims won't bother doing. More on that later.

    The more you look into this scammer, the more you realise he's been running his scam for over 10 years. Google is your friend, so just go through these results to see how long he's been scamming for:

    You will find countless results in the searches above. Read through all of them. You will notice something very interesting. Along the years, as this scammer kept being exposed, he kept changing his name. He didn't completely change it, as that would require official and bureaucratic name changes, he just changed how he spelled his first name. Why would someone keep changing the variation of their name? The reason is simple, he kept being exposed with variations of one name that people would know him by and google him by, so when there were enough sites, pages, and posts exposing him with a simple Google search, he would change the variation of his first name, and also of his websites.

    This is how he's been varying his name throughout the years every time he gets exposed for the scammer that he is:


    Who the hell does that? Not a legitimate business person, but a scammer trying to cover his tracks, that's who.

    See, when his home was raided by Australian Federal Police and when he was convicted of scamming investors over 10 years ago, he was reported in the official SEC Litigation Release documents (yes, that SEC) as 'Stephen Hourmouzis'.

    Here are the official Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) documents regarding this scammer using the name 'Stephen Hourmouzis':


    So when he first started his roulette scam at GenuineWinner.com with his fake $1,000,000 guarantee (more on that later), he went by 'Stefano Hourmouzis' so that unsuspecting victims that researched him wouldn't find his conviction under 'Stephen Hourmouzis' or the fact that he did jail time for defrauding investors.

    When that variation of his name and that site were exposed as the scam that they were, he changed it all again, both his name and the website.

    So he changed his name online yet again to 'Steven Hourmouzis' and his website to 'RoulettePhysics.com' which is where he runs his current scam.

    When StevenHourmouzis.com was launched to expose his latest scam, he changed his name online yet again to 'Steve' and completely stopped using his last name 'Hourmouzis' (you won't find it anywhere on his RoulettePhysics.com scam site). He did this so that new unsuspecting visitors to his scam site will only see 'Steve' and won't find out or be able to search through his history of scamming and changing names to cover his long tracks of perpetual scamming. Don't just take my word for it, see him calling himself 'Steve' now (see here: http://www.roulettephysics.com/about-me/:

    steve.PNG


    ...and try finding any mention of his last name 'Hourmouzis' anywhere on his RoulettePhysics.com scam site (hint: you won't find it).

    No legitimate business person would have to keep changing their name online and actually drop the use of their last name. Only a scammer trying to cover their tracks to keep luring unsuspecting victims who are unaware of his track record of scamming.

    Here is a comprehensive list of the scammer's aliases:

    • Stephen Hourmouzis
    • Stefano Hourmouzis
    • Steven Hourmouzis
    • Steve Hourmouzis
    • Stephen George Hourmouzis
    • Stefano George Hourmouzis
    • Steven George Hourmouzis
    • Steve George Hourmouzis
    • Stephen G. Hourmouzis
    • Stefano G. Hourmouzis
    • Steven G. Hourmouzis
    • Steve G. Hourmouzis
    • George Hourmouzis
    • Steve Anderson
    • SteveH
    • Kylie Tjepkema
    • [email protected]

    But he didn't just keep changing names, he also kept changing companies once they got exposed.

    Here is his previous registered scam company that he used to run his GenuineWinner.com scam and which he shut down after it was exposed:

    • SITE PROMOTIONS PTY LTD (ACN# 090 739 754 / A.C.N 090739754 / ABN# 20 090 739 754 / A.B.N 20090739754):
    Notice of Shut Down of the Company:
    Even more ridiculous, when he was running the GenuineWinner.com scam, he had a fake $1,000,000 guarantee:

    genuinewinner[1].gif


    But he didn't even have the money to cover anywhere near that amount. How do I know? Because he was stupid enough to leave his LinkedIn Profile up where it showed that this supposed 'roulette expert' who was supposedly making a lot of money at the casinos with his systems and supposedly had enough cash to make a $1,000,000 guarantee was actually just a petty sales consultant at a Spa company:

    steve-hourmouzis-sales-consultant-spa-world.jpg


    Now he's running a different variation of his roulette system and roulette computer scam under a different variation of his name and under the RoulettePhysics.com scam site. You may be wondering why you won't find much information about RoulettePhysics.com being a scam when there is so much history about Hourmouzis scamming. Well, he took things one step further with the RoulettePhysics.com scam and did something very clever to preempt the exposure of his scam:

    He makes every victim of his RoulettePhysics.com scam sign a Confidentiality Agreement before they realise they've been scammed so that they can't expose him after sending him money.
    RoulettePhysics.com Confidentiality Agreement:


    confidentiality-agreement.PNG


    Think about it, he literally has his victims sign over their rights to be able to expose him and his roulette systems, computers, and devices and only accepts payment by bank transfer (wire transfer) which is irreversible. So by the time the victims realise they've been scammed, they have no recourse other than to sue, which most victims won't bother doing (more on that later). So this scammer gets to keep the victims money, and the victims can't even expose him. That's why you won't find as much information on his latest scam at RoulettePhysics.com because this scammer is adapting and getting better at covering his tracks.


    Here is the current company he is using to scam people on RoulettePhysics.com:

    NATURAL LABORATORIES PTY LTD
    ACN: 167750834 (167 750 834)
    ABN: 97167750834 (97 167 750 834)

    Suite 192, 585 Little Collins Street, Melbourne Vic 3000.
    PO Box 494 Lilydale Victoria 3140
    '1/23-27 Wellington Street St Kilda Victoria 3182'

    Account name: Natural Laboratories Pty Ltd
    Beneficiary address (required): Suite 192, 585 Little Collins Street, Melbourne Vic 3000
    BSB: 063 852 (063852)
    Account Number: 1023 9343 (10239343)
    Swift Code: CTBAAU2S
    Bank name: Commonwealth Bank of Australia Bank
    Bank Branch: Mount Evelyn
    Address: 31 Wray Crescent
    State/Province: Victoria
    Postal Code: 3796
    Country: Australia
    Do not under any circumstances send any money to the company above.

    Also, notice how this scammer only accepts bank transfers (wire transfers) on RoulettePhysics.com, so that once you've been scammed, you can't do a chargeback or a dispute with PayPal or any other legitimate payment provider:


    bank-transfer.PNG


    So your only recourse after you've realised you've been scammed is a lawsuit, which most won't bother doing.

    To fully understand this scammer, you need to understand that he has scammed under numerous names and that he keeps covering his tracks, so you need to know what to look for to get the full picture about this scammer.

    Here is a comprehensive list of the sites this scammer runs:

    • adsales.ninja
    • freedocumentsecurity.com
    • gamblingadvertising.org
    • genuinewinner.com
    • genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com
    • hybridroulettecomputer.com
    • landsharing.org
    • natlabs.net
    • obxspringtraining.com
    • roulettecomputers.com
    • roulette-computers.com
    • rouletteforum .cc
    • rouletteforum.net
    • roulettephysics.com
    • roulettestrategyreviews.com
    • roulettesystemanalysis.com
    • roulettesystemreviews.com
    • roulettetraining.com
    • roulettewheelanalysis.com
    • roulettewire.com
    • site-promotion.com
    • universalsymbiosis.org
    • vlsroulette.com
    • wirebot.org
    • yourway.org.au

    Here is more information about this scammer:


    Also, read this report about Cyber Crime discussing how the convicted scammer Hourmouzis was raided by the Australian Federal Police:
    As you can see from the Cyber Crime report above, the scammer Hourmouzis has a lot of experience hiding his tracks and electronic fingerprints using bogus companies.


    To summarise, this scammer keeps changing his name, websites, and companies to cover his tracks and history of scamming. On his latest RoulettePhysics.com scam site, he only accepts bank transfers (wire transfers) that are irreversible and makes you sign a Confidentiality Agreement so that you have no recourse after you've realised you've been scammed since you won't be able to get your money back and you won't be able to expose him and tell other unsuspecting victims what happened.

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. ROULETTEPHYSICS.COM IS A SCAM AND YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY.
     

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  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    For crying out loud - can this BS stop ?
    "An independent Roulette Forum community to discuss Roulette Systems, Strategy, Advantage Play, and more."

    Going after someone who you don't like, or making post after post about a "bad guy" either good or bad has NOTHING to do with roulette - the game, strategies, advantage play or anything else for that matter.
    There is a section for that - you can throw stones at the guy all day and be happy, or start your own site and do it there ? FFS this section is about beating roulette and this topic isn't doing anything to point people in that direction.
     
  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You said the guy's last name 45 times in this post - so you are promoting him, and that is all.
    Or that's your goal from the start. No one is THAT angry at someone else that they will go to another site and mention his name (which promotes his name) 45 times in one post.
    I smelled this from the start and it just keeps smelling worse.
    You mentioned his site 18 TIMES in this post. IN ONE POST

    Stop this bullshit show or take it somewhere else.
     
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  4. Boz

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    Why don't you understand anyone who falls for his pitch deserves what they get. If anyone could beat Roulette they would take Michael Bluejay's challenge. They can't beat the game, simple as that. Suckers deserve to lose their money if they believe otherwise.

    Either you are a hell of a good citizen or you were stupid enough to fall for it and got what you deserve.
     
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  5. Boz

    Boz Well-Known Member

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    Either way it's perfect for this forum, not sure why you are upset about it.
     
  6. RouletteGhost

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    Starting a new thread because posting in the one that already exists (right below this one), is too mainstream.

    Cool forum.

    Shame, has a nice layout. Had potential.

    Its a literal bickering gateway, swingin dick central.
     
  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Actually, they wouldn't lol. He says so himself :
    "I'm 100% confident that no such system actually exists, but there's no way for me to prove it, because anyone who actually had such a system wouldn't take my challenge."

    Agreed. 30k ? Makes no sense because that can be made with a working method.
    The challenge would only work on scammers so they never try for it.
     
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  8. RouletteGhost

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    absolutely

    "your method shows profit over a 1 million spin simulation? must be a flaw in your coding"
     
  9. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Have you ever read the "rules" of his challenge lol.
    Too funny. No wonder no one takes him up on it seriously. 200,000 spins done 20 times....
    The challenger has to provide him with the system/method and then he programs a rng to play it out...
    What kind of challenge is this ? lol.
    Personally I think it's hilarious - to a scammer though it would be a death sentence. I guess that's the point.
     
  10. TurboGenius

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    Reminds me of some witch hunt in the old days.
    Tie you up and throw you in the river.
    If you survive - you're a witch, if you die you're not a witch.
    No win situation and always the person making the challenge looks like they know what they're talking about.
    The only loser is the poor person taking the challenge lol
     
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    Scammers to some extent rely on those who contribute to the proliferation of ignorance, ie system advocates. System junkies condemn sellers only because "it doesn't make sense that anyone would sell a system if it really worked, they would just use it themselves". So it's not the fact that it's a system per se (which presumably DOES make sense to them, lol) that marks the seller as a scammer, only that it would be illogical to sell it. There's something absurd about this; that winning systems are indeed possible, but that someone would ever sell one? Nah... ROFL. It never seems to occur to the system guys that they are unwittingly complicit in providing a potential market for the scammers by their own ignorance and belief that winning systems are possible.

    Having said that, SH is targeting the more sophisticated gambler who thinks (correctly) that the way to win is through physics, but of course that doesn't mean he's not a scammer.
     
  12. Sang72

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    This is interesting so why he not in jail? I see lots of bad information about this guy. Must be scammer you canot beat roulette its random.

    I know michaela sometimes winning possible with physics but not anymore in any casino today
     
  13. Stefan

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    why here is two same topics about this website :)
     
  14. DanyWhite

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    Probably this website is so bad that everyone does not have enough place to talk about it in one topic.. :D
     
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  15. SteveH

    SteveH Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    Because the first thread backfired on the OP (IHeartRoulette) when I responded with:
    • Detailed information refuting false allegations against me, and how anyone can easily validate facts for themselves.
    • Information indicating who IHeartRoulette appears to be, and his motives for encouraging others to avoid my forums. Hint: the admin here removed important evidence from the threads (censorship). Then he labelled me a "compulsive liar", which is itself a lie. I could post more, but it would only be censored again and I don't have time.
    The manipulative nonsense about me on this website is from people with ulterior motives. Don't expect them to be honest.

    Better ways to verify facts FOR YOURSELF are below:



    ------------------------------------------------
    For the ROULETTE SYSTEM (advantage play methods)
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    • Read my free course. It better explains "advantage play" and includes various free systems you can test: (link forbidden by admin)
    • Test my software for yourself (full version for 7-days). Validation can't be more direct: (link forbidden by admin)
    • Google "advantage play" and "roulette wheel physics". Also research "casino game protection". What casinos do to protect themselves gives clues about what worries them, and what really works.
    • Call or visit me personally, even if only to better understand me.

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    For the ROULETTE COMPUTERS
    ----------------------------
    • Test my free roulette computer on any wheel you want. You can test from home on your PC. It's completely free: (link forbidden by admin)
    • See an in-person or live webcam demo on any wheel you want. Do whatever testing you want in a full day: (link forbidden by admin)
    • Attend a free public group demo. I openly address and refute false allegations. Everyone sees for themselves. Register interest to attend: (link forbidden by admin)
    • See independent test results of my computers: I sent a free computer to an independent and unbiased tester chosen by the public. They tested and easily validated my claims. See their report: (link forbidden by admin)
    • See a recording of a previous public group demo where over +120% edge was demonstrated: (link forbidden by admin)
    • Aim a webcam at any wheel via Skype (including live online casinos), and I'll predict the spins with my computers. We can do this for a whole day on any wheel you want. Request a demo: (link forbidden by admin)
    • Watch numerous secretly recorded videos of real casino sessions from players (with player permission). You even see the roulette computer's software track the wheel location with computer vision technology, and automatically track the ball and green zero, then predict the spins. See details: (link forbidden by admin)
    • Watch LIVE video of a real casino session with our players (requires the player's permission first). See details: (link forbidden by admin)
    • Join my private teams and pay me $0.00 up-front. Pay only based on the performance of the computers: (link forbidden by admin)
    Take these simple options, then the manipulative nonsense written about me counts for nothing.


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    • There's much more information at a website I created specifically to address nonsense about me and my technology. The admin here wont allow the links or videos mentioned above (it doesn't suit him), so email me via my website for the links.
    • Negative material about me is extremely manipulative. Serious players do proper research like the above - it makes knowing the important facts simple. If you prefer wasting time with false but irrelevant nonsense, understand some of it is blatantly false. And some is an elaborate distortion of the truth. I have already responded to it all in detail. I don't have time to waste re-typing it. Find my responses via Google (my links are censored here). I may not read or respond to further posts here, so please don't ask me questions here.
     
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  16. gizmotron

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    You might not like that I respect Steve but I don't give a fuck. He is selling a technology that has long been proven to work for those that create physics based computers. I know the brother of the first computers used to beat roulette. The story is told on a TV documentary about beating Las Vegas. I don't know if Steve's work or not but I also know that it takes talent to use one in the first place. The first guys worked on it for thousands of hours. Then there is actually getting away with it. So I expect people to fail because they don't work hard enough for it. Those people then complain that they were ripped off. Physics based computers work if the software is good enough. There is more to life than complaining about being ripped off. You should try being a building developer. The line at which you get fucked is so long that you can have a televised parade. Business is not easy. You have to deal with all kinds of excuses for failure. People are funny. They act like gambling is supposed to be some pure activity like space flight.
     
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  17. SteveH

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    Yes well the truth is kinda easy to figure out. The problem is most people don't do thinking. Or proper research.

    The attacks against me are almost entirely from people who never worked with me, and have ulterior motives. That's why you get anonymous people like IHeartRoulette attacking me from nowhere. It's actually not from nowhere - they're just using a fake name. Then there are others with no idea, who follow along and relay garbage. And then more mindless people relay rubbish.

    It starts from people like competitors, or people I've banned from my forums etc. Yes, there's a small handful of legitimate players who weren't happy complained. Out of about 1,200 players in 15+ years, a few are bound to not understand the technology. Of these, many ended up apologizing. I have no problem addressing criticism head-on. I do have a problem with anonymous cowards attacking me for personal reasons.

    My responses here are not primary related to business. Primarily, I want the truth about me known.

    Understand advantage players who spend $100,000 with me do proper research. They already find my responses to the nonsense. They aren't stupid. They know better than to believe anonymous attacks. They take the options like a demonstration on any wheel they want. So my responses at places like here are because I don't like lies or liars. I want truth to be known.

    I expect everyone to be skeptical of someone selling something, but balanced and healthy skepticism. This means not believing the first thing they read.
     
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  18. gizmotron

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    Here is a better way to look at all this. In 20 years you won't give a damn what Steve made off of creating and selling Roulette computers. You will be worried about what the government is going to take from you when it becomes a totalitarian socialist dictatorship that thinks you make too much money. You are the rip off artist then. The people that will do this to you have no idea who Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong is. You are losing the big game and you don't even know it. I'm laughing my as off too. I'm going to be dead. My plan assures that the AOC loonies won't get my stash. But they have you in the cross hairs. Didn't see that on a Roulette wheel did you.
     
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  19. Parpaluck

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    The saying that best applies to Steven Hourmouzis “Stefano”:

    “Once a criminal, always a criminal.”

    I did have a run-in with this crook and mook and kook, Stefano. He stole from me a free roulette system based on the wheel halves. I wrote special software that, I believe, is still unique: RouletteHemis.exe. I had given a first version-copy of the program to another criminal known all over gambling cyberworld as Chip. He was not a convicted criminal at that time. Chip passed on my software and system to the convicted Australian criminal.

    I was the first to expose the crook, criminal indeed, Steven Hourmouzis “Stefano”, on my website. Significant materials:

    • https://saliu .com/RouletteHalves.html
    • Roulette System Based on Wheel Halves, Sectors Betting
    • The original roulette system that was pirated and distributed at exorbitant prices by Steven Hourmouzis “Stefano”, an Australian criminal

    • https://saliu .com/RouletteWheel.html
    • Roulette Software, Systems: Wheel Positioning (Slots, Sectors), Birthday Paradox for Roulette

    • https://saliu .com/roulette-millions.html
    • Roulette System Piracy of Wheel Half, Sector Strategy

    • https://download.saliu .com/roulette-piracy.html
    • Illegal Roulette System, Piracy, Roulette Computer Sales Stopped by Law

    As for “roulette computer”: It is a hallucination. No “roulette computer” can be devised to “clock” the wheel. Even if an organization, such as NASA, would build such a highly sophisticated device, it would be futile. The outcome of a roulette spin is not dependent on the speed of the wheel. The very same speed yields very different results: All random. The wheel must be calibrated at a precision of millimeters per second — a very difficult task! And, even then, the roulette outcome can’t be predicted!

    The “roulette computers” are the fabrications of badly deranged individuals. One of the most notorious advertised his “roulette computer” by showing a photo of a… toy (an old Fisher computer, a kid toy)! Read:

    • https://saliu .com/bbs/messages/952.html
    • Roulette Computer Scams: Mark Anthony Howe, Stefano Hourmouzis, Pirates, Scammers.


    Ion Saliu
    Founder of Roulette Mathematics
    Founder of Theory of Streaks
     
  20. Junket King

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    I was in Adelaide casino a long time ago, a friend of mine was sitting at a bank of terminals (losing), so I went over the the dealer to watch him. He was looked bored, probably due to no punter interaction, I noticed from were he released the ball. While the balls was travelling round the rim, I said to my mate, cover X number, meaning number X and the neighbours. The ball landed direct on X, whatever X was, I can't recall.

    Randomness, scatter, it's bollocks under the right conditions.
     

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