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Baccarat Live B+M Shoes

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by eugene, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What I am reading here is more like an elegant fuck than garbage .


    When one spots a trend one either goes with it , against it or does nothing .


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  2. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Sounds rough, back off for a bit j, regain your composure, I have faith you'll get what you want brother. If anybody is going to do this your the man.
     
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  3. BeJustRich

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    This Shoe killed me because of greed by chasing P..
     

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  4. soxfan

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    Query, what bets selection are workin with, hey hey?
     
  5. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Been playing online for most of the day, I had a goal target of roughly 140u. I couldn't reach it. It was blowing my mind, losing hands 9-8, to the third card, leading on the player 5-4 with 4 cards shown, my next card is a 5. Doing my head in, up and down like a yoyo. I'm risking blowing this and undoing what generally has been a decent take when tomorrow is another day.

    So I decided "screw-it", I'm approx 30 units shy of my goal, recouped from the 19 hands no banker run. I wasn't playing this shoe, in between the shuffle and waiting for the first 7 hands, as I no-bet them, I gander at all the tables, then I spotted that P streak, I won one of the late Ties, which meant I could start my progression all over again, but fuck-me, jesus wept, that was nuts.

    Ok for that are familiar with my "Anti Binary Repeat" bet selection, there's at least a dozen former bet.cc members here, a few of which I've communicated with privately. I've got an update (sorry not going to discuss what the methodology actually is, either you caught it, or you didn't). Having been smacked most of the afternoon by "rows" that are either not resolving or resolving on the final column of a shoe. It got me thinking, when playing the columns you can only lose a max 4 bets in a row if you make a move after 3, due to the end of column, so why not apply the same principal to the "rows'", 4LIAR STOP (Jim suggested this to me, some time back). The majority of "row opportunities" pairs, triples etc, are usually resolved by the 5th column, you generally have made money here already, so it is pointless risking giving it all back to due to any single "row failure".

    Tomorrow is another day, scrub all the unresolved Labby strings, I'll start afresh tomorrow.

    Precisely. Generally I go against, as I subscribe to the theories of Barstow.
     
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  6. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Congrats j, tomorrow is another day, does not matter how or when you get there, getting across the finishing line is all that matters.

    I stopped by one of our local casino. I don't like that one though. It is really big but they have a high minimum and a low maximum. And they insist on the player sitting down while they rob you of your hard earned cash.

    I made two bets for £50 each. I waited for 3 in a row and placed one £50 bet against the trend. I then waited for 4 in a row and it happened at a different table. I bet against the trend. I won

    Did I expect to win? Actually, I thought it was going to be a battle. Did I get lucky? Probably, although I set up the conditions to give myself a better chance.

    I left shortly after that. The Pit Boss gave me a angry look as I walked away from the tables as if my hit and run strategy was an illegal move on my part.
     
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  7. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    You can see runs such as this in your local casino tomorrow, or you could not see it for 6~12 months (these are not RNG shoes)

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    Yet online, this occurs on regular daily occurrence. There are reasons why!!
     

  8. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Are those consecutive shoes?
     
  9. eugene

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    This might be an interesting read for some people titled ''The Longest Run Of Heads'' from Mark F Schilling.

    https://www.maa.org/sites/default/files/pdf/upload_library/22/Polya/07468342.di020742.02p0021g.pdf

    Years ago when the first internet casinos hit the web, they were mostly all RNG and a lot of people couldn't believe the streaks that they saw on the even chances. So called experts just passed it off as the fact that you are playing more hands in a shorter space of time on a RNG than you would witness in a live B+M Casino. Now maybe that's true but it does make you wonder reading the above PDF if things were maybe slightly manipulated to take into account how people understood randomness.
     
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  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Nope, different tables.

    Just played this shoe.
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    Some may think it is crap and sit on their hands!!!!! Some may never witness such a shoe because they never venture near a casino, even if it's only 3 miles away, cos they don't like the venue!!!!

    Anyway, for me. who actually plays Baccarat Nathan,
    (at the beginning I thought the dealer was deliberately pulling the cards in my favour, fancy that)

    WWWWWWWW L W LLL W L WW LLL WWW

    I would love to show the bet placement, however

    LOL
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  12. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    GOOD GOD

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  13. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Crazy shit and the soxfan killer.

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  14. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Fuck, glad I missed this.

    I only table hop between shoes, so thankfully was engaged in a shoe, otherwise, DIRE and not a Tie in between (jackpot bonus at Gentings if you have the button, I think somebody in Birmingham won £70,000 off that Banker Bonus bet, stunning....

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  15. eugene

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    Just to balance out a lot of these streaky shoes, here is a bit of a choppy one.

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  16. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Couple of crazy shoes from earlier.

    The Punto was leading for most of the shoe more than 2 to 1, ending 15 ahead.

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    This shoe I found bizarre, look at those chops!!!! Followed by so many repeating 2's,

    This shoe was directly after the one above, heavy Punto shoes are not a rare beast, by any means.

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    A few of those chops at the end, hurt. I was never trending this shoe, I don't trend anyway, so was never riding them. I was betting for them to break, which they took a while to do. Ended up dropping quiet a few units on this shoe, which I eventually recouped. Don't expect to see crazy stuff like this in your B&M casino, there is an element of sloppiness that occurs online (say no more). Hence the 15 hand long streaks that happen every single day FFS.........

    And here is one of those "Elegant Patterns", except I call them symmetrical patterns (20 hands until it broke)

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    The double Banker in the middle is the pivot, The sym' pattern is only formed after the 2nd Banker run of 4. I bet the 2nd Banker streak of 4 to go to 5 (it didn't), it was a small feeler bet, no big deal, off-sets some of the Banker commission, so to break the mirror, bet for the Player to double, which I won. I don't go looking for this stuff, but if I notice it, I may make a move... Put it this way, it defines logic for it to continue for ever, it has to break at some stage, it all hinges on how many bets, there were a few opportunities earlier and they all added to the pot (every little helps)..

    Here is another one from memory, it was kinda strange looking at it at the time.

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    We've all seen long 2-1 runs right, but this was a double 2 followed by 2 singles, 16 hands up to final P. I'm thinking this is worth a feeler bet to bet against its continuance. Sure enough, another chip to off set the commission... It looked like a piece of the Great Wall of China, symmetrical perfection. Common sense prevails, don't bet against repeating 2-1's, or 2's, or even chops, they can go on far longer then your progression.
     
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    Utter madness
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    It's unbelievable what with all those streaky shoes. I am tempted to try and play online. (not that I really need any tempting)
     
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  19. Junket King

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    Those crazy streaks don't advertise themselves, haven't seen a 15 streak for at least 2 days.... Bastard of a shoe for me, no-bet the first 6P's, lost 2 bets, then won the 3rd. Lost 4 bets, and got really fuckin' pissed because it was like a natural score for the P every fuckin' hand, so doubled up with an over the top bet which thankfully won. That is why I'm here instead on online, trying to calm down a bit. I did win on the shoe, not by much.... If anybody ever considers betting anti-streak online (I wasn't but fell into it), you must wait for 8 hands, or even 10, it is that bad, aggghhhh:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:.
     
  20. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Get the fuck outta here. Pissing around with some foolish free roulette spins, Black and Low won a few times, then switched to 2u last Doz and 3u on 1~18, won a few times with that until I lost 2iar, basically just trying to turn bonus chips into real cash!! Anyway, lost all that and fucked the game off.

    I go the Baccarat Lobby and noticed this;
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    I spotted it when it was already 10 hands (I now avoid jumping in after 6 like I use to!!!), so this thing is already 10 hands no Bank, previous experience tells me, 15 hands is a worst case, but who really knows.

    So a couple of chips on Bank, to reduce today's goal target, result TIE, okay no problem, that makes it 11 hands no Banco, Barstow is right wasn't he? Lose 2u

    Fuck this, great opportunity here!!! 5u on the Bank, LOSE, okay fair do's no panic, so I'm wondering why did I bet 5u instead of 3u or 4u?
    BTW the fuckin' Player was hitting nothing but natural scores. Let's make this worth while, 12 units on the Bank, LOSE.

    Now I'm feeling livid I even noticed for shit, sloppy shuffling c**ts. Now what? I've just dropped 19u!!! No drama itself, I can recoup that in a few shoes. Bet 22u on the Bank and 2 on the tie, LOSE. Okay, I will confess this is when I disintegrated, "how the fuck did I get sucked into this shit"!!!!!

    Feeling very emotional to put things mildly, I'm recounting the streak length over and over after every loss, 15 hands no Bank, not your every day occurrence were they shuffle the cards and produce chaos. I've gotta whole 15 seconds to make a decision, this is were they get players to make irrational decisions.

    Hit the repeat bet slapping an extra 20u on the Bank and an extra single on the Tie, win or lose, your displayed balance is dropped, I'm looking at that and that sickening feeling of having undone everything I won yesterday has gone down the pan. This every hand is a 50-50 proposition has completely left my mind, replaced with the irrational logic of "how can this continue", "it must be due", up this point the Player wins over the Bank weren't even close, Bank getting fuck-all, like an 8 followed by a 4.

    The bastard thing broke after 15 hands, thank the Lord, fuck me, I did not want to bet any higher, but probably would have out of sheer anger and doubly sickening feeling had it ended and I backed off. Jesus Wept, after all that I made a 10u profit. The fuckin' drama....

    I'm laughing now, but fuckin' hell????
     
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