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Baccarat Progressions

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jimske, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. R19

    R19 Active Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    I mean fuck all. Yesterday I played a certain there baccarat shoe for practice that Wally showed me that wasn't from the zooma zoom zoom, but happens to be on one of the most widely played online live dealing platforms, and with two different negative progressions that I have developed because of Junket Kings work, and my positive progression and they wound up +17 or +54 WITH THE SAME LOW WATER MARKET WHICH WAS ACTUALLY NOTHING. So I think, gee wally, do you think if I trade my Red Sox rookie card for the other Red Sox bruh with that trouble maker Eddie do you think Eddie will program the Results Smasher? And then Wally says maybe golly Beav's when you build a trap in the yard to catch that gopher, you will have your answer. But I want to look over all the baccarat testing shoes I have which is a relatively low number compared to 1 kabillion before dinner but I don't have that darned Results Smasher!

    Because after all, just like that troublemaker Eddie told us, mo money is mo problems!
     
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  2. Junket King

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  3. R19

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    Gee, hi, hello, greetings Junket King, many of us find such beautiful portraits of certain bruh type people using the characters found on a common keyboard to be quite remarkable only eclipsed by the impressions of Times Square works recently galleried here. I spoke with Wally and my father Ward about this and they said as long as we don't get into no kind of trouble then Eddy can come over and play stickball. Any thoughts and ideas on how you have gained such a passion for the arts would be most enjoyed over on the bet selection shady talks.
     
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  4. Junket King

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    ^^^ Looks heavier than the M1 Abrams, but fucking brilliant.

    These questions are very deep to baccarat players.

    For example, recent practice shoe with the same bet selection:

    Daytona Set Up 1:
    End Result: +1
    Max Drawdown: -16
    Biggest Position Size: 5

    Daytona Set Up 2:
    End Result: +34
    Max Drawdown: -9
    Biggest Position Size: 13


    This is the what progressions can do with the exact same bet selection.
     
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    Corrections and Update:

    Daytona Set Up 1:
    End Result: -1
    Max Drawdown: -16
    Biggest Position Size: 5

    Daytona Set Up 2:
    End Result: +34
    Max Drawdown: -9
    Biggest Position Size: 13

    Daytona Set Up 3:
    End Result: 0
    Max Drawdown: -11
    Biggest Position Size: 3


    Now with the Results Smasher this would be one of many, many shoes that you can run up and down with a few clicks.
     
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  7. soxfan

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    No, I never used the carsch at baccarats, only at dice, hey hey.
     
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    Hey JacobBlaze, do have updates? It looked like you where getting some great results which several variations of progressions.
     
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    Anyone using step-up's from flat like the following?
    Positive Progression: 1 1.5 1
    Negative Progression: 1 1 1.5

    W L L = -1
    W W L = + 1.5
    W W W = + 3.5
    W W W W = + 4.5
    L L W = - 0.5
    L L L = - 3.5
    L L L L = -4.5
    W L W = + 1
    etc.
     
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    Damn, I put several mistakes in the examples figuring it would spark some idears and discussions, but I guess eryone bz.
     
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    Anyone using step-up's from flat like the following?
    Positive Progression: 1 1.5 1
    Negative Progression: 1 1 1.5

    W L L = +1 -1.5 -1 = -1.5
    W W L = +1 +1.5 -1 = + 1.5
    W W W = +1 +1.5 +1= +3.5
    W W W W = +1 +1.5 +1 +1 = +4.5
    L L W = -1 -1 +1.5 = -0.5
    L L L = -1 -1 -1.5 = -3.5
    L L L L = = -1 -1 -1.5 -1 = -4.5
    W L W = +1 -1.5 +1 = +0.5
     
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    How does it make any difference this way? Expect more losses than wins in a game of house edge and it sucks all back.
     
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    Positive and negative progressions will take a high 40% to low 50% overall strike rate and make it crank. To clarify, good play is going to be no better than around 48% - 53% as the number of hands grows beyond the very short term.

    I am shocked actually that this thread is not 1,000 pages as the best performing combination I have so far is a positive progression with the modified Fibonacci negative progression that Junket King presented. So when the baccarat shoe is favorable it is taking and sweeping and then when things go south it really started to counter attack and sweep. I have tested it a lot on real baccarat shoes from the best real money sources, but not played it with real money. You have to be 100% committed to execute any of these progressions and should be skilled enough to stay out of the 8 - 9 +++ losses in a row zone. But this is a matter of capital and balls. If you have a serious bank roll and want to scale down to table minimum then to me to date the Fibonacci negative progression with no capping is the way to go. You shouldn't really be hitting into table limits and it will sweep back hard because it has huge range. Even a base of 100 would be 14,400 at a 144 and big houses aren't going to blink at that range.

    JK Fibonacci Negative Progression:
    1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 144... -->>>

    Latest I have looked at:
    1 2 3 5 8 13 13 13 21 - Fuck -->>> 1.

    For the times I get into the 13 13 13 21, the negative progression has already made so much better in previous play. You have to just try these things out. First in testing then in real money.
     
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    Wrong if you bet bankers than you will win more bets than you lose, hey hey.
     
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  15. Jimske

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    The only problem with neg prog is bankroll and house limits. But the prog has to be strong enough to pay the juice. as well. This effectively means that you need to win more hands than lose OR have a significantly greater cumulative win on the winning hands than losing hands if you lose more hands than win.

    My goal is ALWAYS to win more hands than lose. When that fails I need to have my larger bets win more than the smaller bets. So I can flat bet (or not) but when I get in the hole it means I got to make some winning bets to overcome. That most likely means an up as you lose and an up and pull in some form. The only question is how deep do I want to go. Grind back with JK string a good conservative choice. Jump Never Lose or Star Prog more radical. Pick your poison. The former going to take a lot of time the latter going to take a big bankroll. There are options in between.

    But anytime you choose RTM or just regression gonna reduce escalation and cut into potential profits with a risk of coming out empty handed.
     
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    And even with more wins you stand to lose due to the house tax on banker wins. So it doesn't help much.
     
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  17. Jimske

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    This could be true but is not necessarily true. The winning hands have to have an amount that includes the tax. I'm surprised you don't get this simple fact.
     
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    Why do you talk nonsenses? I have tested progressions to go with bankers only bets and they give ya 55-75 of gross for sweet net profits, hey hey.
     
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    And yet, instead of constantly making these "profits", you're on here all day running your mouth! Hey hey!!
     
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    Do you EVER post anything of value, hey hey?
     
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