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Roulette Do you know what's going on?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Jan 11, 2020.

  1. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    because you are picking a new set op 10 spins every round, so there is no edge to this, or am i doin' it wrong?
     
  2. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Jek, you'll quickly learn that with those holygrailer you can just say "wow, you're the best"... as soon as you'll point the nonsense, you'll be wrong... they cannot recognize...
    Every system player beat the roulette till they play for real money and long enough...
     
  3. Smitridel

    Smitridel Active Member

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    Since Ive started studying Repeaters Notto and KTF WTF and the like Ive witnessed hundreds of first 10 spins.
    Yes the averages do exist and they are there to be taken into account.

    Also Jek if you pick after the first five you will be missing out on repeaters that may come early - it doesnt happen often but adding to the averages (late comers) you have a lot.

    Also there is no holy grail.
    Accept it and you're roulette hobby/profession will be much easier.

    There are only methods that win more than they lose provided we're talking about real money and a fair wheel/RNG.
     
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  4. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not talking about a hg, because it doesn't excist. I'm just looking for fun ways to play, but in the meantime, i don't want to let it run too costly.
    I've tested some more with some old live spins of mine, and a few back to back (2-5 max) will happen. When you're in a circle like that when you sit at the table, you won't make money. i've also seen, WLWLWWLLW sessions. These will eat your bank in a flash.
     
  5. precogm

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    What would be the definition of a holy grail other than that?
     
  6. Smitridel

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    I believe that Naughty uses some kind of progression dependent on whether it was a previous Loss or a Win (maybe +1/-1)?
    After all he favours that kind of progression by KTF.

    His point is that you will see more 9/10 than not so you gain a... statistical advantage (and by using progression you make up for the lost sessions).

    Flat bet willl take a lot of time and were not precogs here so there will be misses.
     
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  7. jekhb1976

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    With this kind of bet using a progression isn't a wise thing, because you don't have an advantage. If there is an advantage, it's in the long run, not in the short playing session you play at a bm setting. if you lose your first set of 10 spins and use a progression of let's say +1 on the next, and that one is a loss also, you will never get back to break even or plus, because you arw too much down. not to bring things down, just saying. i've tested alot and like i said i got alot of wlwlwl then when using a progression wich is a negative one, you are doomed.
     

  8. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    No way of picking bets give you better chances. The sooner one learns this the better his strategies could be. In a random game trying to find the best way to find the best bet is foolish. One needs to learn how to handle variance rather.
     
  9. Smitridel

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    If you're looking for fun way:

    Spin the wheel till you have 6 unique (no repeat).
    Bet those 6 up to 5 times.
    On new high stop or continue.
    If loss or you havent reached a satisfying profit, up one unit in the progression.

    If you continue and win substract the winner so now you have 5.
    Bet those up to 7 times.
    If win stop if lose up a unit.

    Always keep in mind that your stakes must be equal or lower of 35.

    If you are already on second level of progression continue with those 5 till desired profit.

    Its no holy grail but it works enough times (sessions) early stages in a cycle.
     
  10. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Some suggestions I would call " White collar crime think".
     
  11. Smitridel

    Smitridel Active Member

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    Crime? As always, the drama queen.
    You re in a gambling forum in a systems/methods section.
    Deal with it or stop reading.

    The method (definitely not system) above is based both on averages, single repeats (again average) and session management mentality.
    Progression never gets high enough if you define a stop loss and its fast enough to make profit in minutes.
    As I said its just a fun way.
     
  12. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    You know of 1-3-5-7-30; Here 31 repeats.
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    Now you have a profit. With 3 repeats in 1st 10 and 4 repeats before the new high at spin 16.
    So you should expect this set of spins will be repeats hitting faster than the non-hit.
    at spin 48, 24 non-hit, spin 50 its' 25 non-hit.
    At spin 60 it's usually 30/60.
    I end spin 60 in profit, the count is 31/60.
    So a fair game. None of this 1 pocket to0 many nonsense.
     
  13. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Here 30 spins. If you take 1-3-5-7-30 as fair; then at spin 30 we have only 5 repeat, so 4 repeats late!
    Why carry on? Just reset; you know the repeats are coming.
    Now if you are going to play for repeats, there are too many 1 hits.
    Perhaps get in touch with BP12 at roulette forum for his winning method. I don't know anything about him, so you'll have to decide
    scam or not.

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  14. Naughty but nice

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    So you know the average for repeats. At spin 38 new high. With 24 non-hits of the starting 37; 14 repeats, 16 is the average so why carry on.
    just reset.

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  15. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    The latest game has 32 spins. Repeats stands at 10. With 8 spins to come; the usual score for 40 spins is 16.
    The question is; will we see 6 repeats in the next 8 spins. If 6 repeats happens you will more than likely lose the profit
    so reset. Unless you know which numbers will repeat, then bet them.
     
  16. Bago

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    Will you play a Toy game until the rest of your life, or will you finally apply your HolyGrail with a real account someday?.
     
  17. gizmotron

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    I agree completely. If you see a single on the weak side in any EC grouping or deck of cards or Dice that lasts for more than 40 tries you should have congratulated yourself for ignoring it. Keep that house's edge on a pedestal for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
     
  18. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    1-3-5-7 or 9-7-5-3
    is still the way; just look in "one hit quitters"
    Bago i play on RNG, so, I know if it can be won using RNG then Live is a piece of piss
     
  19. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering if Rona has a comment for 1-3-5-7; she has for everything else.
     
  20. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    You mean like this?

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