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Baccarat SNSKK versus PLBSR Bacarat methods

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by JacobBlaze, Apr 16, 2022.

  1. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The threat makers are good at keeping themselves anonymous.
     
  2. JacobBlaze

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    Me thinks u need some work on your 5 cent jokes punky... :)
     
  3. JacobBlaze

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    The forum princess tell me you can't call your method flat betting if you are raising your bets arbitrarily (sp)

    Let's just call it
    Punky KangarooLand Flat bets ( that aren't really flat bets if kangaroos are native.in your country) I'll support that.
     
  4. JacobBlaze

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    Princesses view at your own discretion::::



    I'll wrap up this thread and ask Punky to return to his kitchen table and rework his 5 cent jokes and kumm up with a new forum thread name for me, for my next outing.. I'm scheduled for a 4 day kitchen test next week but might drive down the 20 minutes to another kitchen and donate their today or tomorrow.

    What I've settled on (curv fitted) trikkkk... before triggering and initiating the: NoKoNutNoSukKok Method Version 9.1 inch inspired by Soxy and Punky.... In an attempt to avoid the 5,6,7 losses in a row.. I also have a -5 stop loss and can more easily identify the SetUP CCTV preshuffled random Player heavy shoes that seem to be sent to my table at higher frequencies (I apologize Punky, but sometimes it's so obvious.. but I still do my thing)

    Not letting those thoughts stop me from.kitchen testing properly punky(I'm OCD but undiagnozed as I can't afford it) :)

    Played only 13 shoes of my 20 goal.. just wasn't feeling like playing at times and slept more than normal, and had randoms asking me questions that I felt friendly enough to answer(I'm not grouchy aka Punky) (maybe overshare)(this took valuable kitchen test time) ,
    And many beautiful brown Orientals (per Soxy) that caught my eye and I had to make attenpts at showing them my big kokoNUTS bankroll so they would love me long time (2 live crew oldie)... Just couldn't control the smallkokonutbrain...

    Results were respectable for a kitchen tester in my eyes...

    Of course less hands were played with the version 9.1 inch...

    Results::

    13 shoes played....
    +11 pre 5% comish,
    .84 precomish units a shoe
    I'm too lazy to get exact.totals post komish now and exact # of hands played etc...

    -1, +1, +6, +2, +1, +2 ,-1,-1,E,E,-1,+1,+2

    Thanks to Punky,Soxy,Junky,fatheadLAX, Turbo for inspiring this method. I'm jus a kitchen table implememtor of your KoKonut and not-so KoKonut ideas...

    Thanks for reading my thread and maybe I'll.continue posting future reports...

    Getting closer to the A punky... Until I don't...
    Everything wins until it don't in the KoinFlipz MetaVerse

    YoYoYo
     
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  5. JacobBlaze

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    Dammm forum edit timeouts...fix those admins.. maybe 10 minutes..or 6 minutes and 69 seconds?? Why 5 mins....

    Forgot to thank Master Jae who is apparently making billions and hasn't been seen around lately....

    Getting closer to the stronger "A" punky maybe 95 % (joke don't write a long as post on that). Until I don't...
    Everything wins until it don't in the KoinFlipz MetaVerse... Right??

    And I didn't move up to $200kitchen units, only measly $100 units as I was scared with the new Version 9.1 inch edits... Punky knows what that's like ....

    Also the BigKokonut Russians were witnessed playing heavy $10,000 USD bets Banker only bets at the super Six tables...lol Most hands of a shoe, guess they don't know about the half pays...lol

    What lunacy........but they want banker "tax" free money ...
     
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  6. JacobBlaze

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    Edit..... I hate when I Hack My Own Hacky jokes.. corrected 5 cent joke below.... Yes OCD....yes selectively flat bets the banker and going for 1 unit a shoe...


    Let's just call it
    Punky KangarooLand Flat bets ( that aren't really flat bets if kangaroos are NOT native.in your country) I'll support that.
     
  7. Punkcity

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    Speaking of banker tax , I know people that only play player because “when they win they want full price” i points out it’s a bank dominant shoe jump on , they say it’s the principle of the matter, I say I’ll take a win less commish or even 1/2 price if it’s a win prospect in my selection criteria.

    Conversely I’ll bet player if and when my selection criteria calls for it. A wins a win any day of the week. Lol
     

  8. Junket King

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    I've played some heavy heavy P Dom shoes in my flea pit, the kinda of shoes that don't get scrutinised at a kitchen table yap yap, everybody including dealer says, they are tax free shoes, no tax shoes. as you say, a win is a win, even 95%, I'll take it.

    It's now taking many minutes for pages to load for the "best mind across the entire gambling spectrum" when it comes to Baccarat, plus I'm constantly hit with "show respect warnings/site rules, damn shame there wasn't any respect shown when the admin allowed one infectious cretin to continually call "best mind across the entire gambling spectrum" a cunt at any and every opportunity.

    Unfortunately for us Baccarateers there aren't many alternative site options at the moment.
     
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    JunketPrincess,

    You just maybe gave me a name for my new upcoming thread.

    JK-BMAEGS Method Version 1
    Best Mind Across Entire Gambling Spectrum

    But I'll have to play a JK style labby string at the $10 super six tables, to give the thread name justice....

    This will be my slutty time play and risk only 50 $10 units ...

    My main game will be the $100 PunkySoxy NoSukKokNoKokonut method I want to finish 100 shoes with that and see how i end up...
     
  10. cps10

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    If there is an opportunity for me to bet Banker that is higher in my play normally I’ll inch the bet up a unit since Banker is more favorable. However, there are many times when Player is my bet and I have no problem with it. Like you say, a win is a win and a win is still a win also at 95%.
     
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  11. JacobBlaze

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    Quick update..

    I added 3 more shoes at a more local casino and finished +4. Played same way as previous 13...

    +1,+2,+1

    +3.6 after 5%commission,

    A total of +15 for the past 16 shoes played.


    Note:
    I hit superSux (half pay banker 3 times) so on a superSux table my profit would only have been 2.5 this session


    Yoyoyo
     
  12. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    " If there is an opportunity for me to bet Banker that is higher in my play normally I’ll inch the bet up a unit since Banker is more favorable. However, there are many times when Player is my bet and I have no problem with it. Like you say, a win is a win and a win is still a win also at 95%."

    I concur, while I don't inch up my bet, as I'm always looking for ways to keep money off the table, I do have a bit more confidence if my next bet is on the Banker side. I only used to hedge the tie when betting on Player bets when they get to a certain size, now I do both.
     
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  13. Punkcity

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    New thread name / method system name

    tricky tricky boy boy can’t bet and chew gum at the same time slap my arz

    OR

    3dogs dry humping your skull hole princess bets.
    Lol
     
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    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    As I have never actually put a name to my method YET . It’s sort of along the lines in the art world YOU NEVER sign a artwork until it’s finished and when you name a piece AND do sign off on it then in your heart you know it’s completed.

    I’m actually leaning to the 3 dogs humping your skull hole princess bets as it final method name.
    Lofl.
     
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  15. JacobBlaze

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    Maybe Full Meal Deal Method, with Kangaroo, Racoon, or Koala Meat
     
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    Update::

    I typed this up earlier this morning but forum was messing up so I'm rewriting and reposting...

    Played 5 shoes at the casino that I had success yesterdays 3 shoes (+4)
    Today was a different story: -6 total 5 shoes, I had a -5 maximum loss per shoe, if i didn't both shoes would.have been -8

    E
    +1
    -5
    +3
    -5

    I moved casinos and walked across the street to another casino with favorable rules for my kitchen testing (no comish/unlimited free hands)
    played 2 shoes finished +3

    +2
    +1

    Decided to walk back across the street to the original casino I started the morning at but this time i.went to play in another area a Chinese led Junket, it was empty (9am Sunday morning)there were 8 tables already setup with 3 to 5 hands showing so no worries about the CCTV heavy shoe targeting from before :)

    I finished 3 shoes total +3

    +1, +1,+1

    All the shoes I was up +2 but was going for bigger wins but lost after +2 so quit plus 1 each shoe. If I keep winning I keep going some shoes have ended up +5 +6 this method..until I get a loss and quit ...but it's rare for +5,+6 shoes this no KoKonut Method.

    I tracked 55 hands per shoe and selectively bet banker only.

    . basically was even for the morning minus comish..

    Thru 26 shoes +15 minus commission or back to the measly .57 units a shoe...

    This 26 shoes have been played live in my kitchen using the W-PUNKYSOXY version 4.1 inch Method

    YoyoYo
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    Update...

    Went back to the Chinese junket this morning with the.goal.to.grind 8 shoes.

    All tables were empty and all tables had 3 to 5 hands showing.

    This.particular junket cuts their shoes so there are only between 53 to 56 hands per shoe, about 20 less then normal.

    So.shoes.were set and ready to.go... my plan was to.play the shoe out and move to the next table... Etc....

    Started around 420am finished around 8am..
    Lost a total of 7 units minus commission

    -1, -3, Even, +3, -1, -5, -2, +2

    After 34 shoes now at +8 minus commission

    Will.continue.to.kitchen test at my normal casino tomorrow.

    Yoyoyo
     
  18. Junket King

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    "-1, -3, Even, +3, -1, -5, -2, +2 After 34 shoes now at +8 minus commission"

    Is this for real?? Why even bother with such small returns??

    Here is a real simple bet selection money management option what should out-perform and handle the worst any shoe will throw at you, unless of course you're playing hundreds of shoes per week, then you'll encounter the variance a lot sooner.

    Extended STAR / Fibonacci.

    The Bet Selection is FLD (Follow the Last), simple enough, needs no further explanation.

    Money Management.

    Find yourself a $10 table, or £5 in UK (work out the maths to suit).

    Take a stack of 10 table minimum chips £50, keep separate from the rest of your buyin'.

    No bet first hand, then flat bet F.L.D. Shoe starts with 7 or 8 chops, no worries, we have a master plan.

    Points to note, WHENEVER your initial stack of 10 chips is greater than 10, place profit chips with the rest of your buyin', this is a one-way transaction.

    If you hit an overtly streaky shoe and you lose all of your 10 chips (dispensable foot soldiers), then you revert to a Fibonacci at a higher chip level to recoup. So for the UK £5 table, bust 10 chips and you are negative £50, so now switch to a £25 Fibo and you have to win 2 units, once achieved, re-create a 10 stack of £5 chips and start over, parlay occasionally if you feel like.

    I played this way decades ago, boring as hell, but sure beats losing, you'll get your excitement once you hit the Fibo stage, hint, don't play the end of any shoe, bail around hand 50 if in profit. Things to watch out for, starting a new shoe with a depleted stack.

    Work it according to what is on offer.

    $10 table, Fibo stage $50 units, win requirement 2u.

    UK progression, £5, £5, £5, £5, £5, £5, £5, £5, £5, £5, bust? now £25, £50, £75, £125, £200, £325, take it further if ya want.

    US Progression, $10, $10, $10, $10, $10, $10, $10, $10, $10 $10, bust? now $50, $100, $150, $250, $400, yikes.

    Don't like the Fibo escalation?? No worries hombre, use a Labby instead.

    Bust the pre-progression, write out a two digit string 1-1 clear that and start over. Need a bit more action/profit? Start your pre-stack with 7 or 8 chips.

    There are lots of ways one can slice and dice the back-end, no more stirring at a score board wondering what will it do next, just bet F.L.D

    How often you gonna see say 14 chops in a row?? 14 chops you can handle by splitting the Labby.

    Here is a disclaimer; 8, 10 or more chops in a row when they occur, you can handle when your pre-stack is what I regard as HEALTHY.
    Meaning, it is close to 10 chips. If you walk into 8 chops and your pre-stack is 4 chips because you played until the end of the prior shoe which ended with chops, then you might have a problem, which is precisely why you bail early if ahead and your pre-stack is healthy.

    Nothing worst than starting a new shoe with a pre-stack of say 4 chips and it starts with lots of chops. Repeating 2-1's don't help either, repeating 2's only help in progression stage. You get the drift.

    It couldn't be easier, you could also use OLD or DBL instead of FLD, it's just that I prefer the latter.

    I haven't played this way for over a decade, I might brush off the cob-webs and give it a whirl on my next visit, sure beats just sitting there waiting for a trigger, it's easy to implement, just make sure you have the funds for the back-end.

    Yes it is boring as hell, but you're getting action aren't you? Maybe comps as well, since when is grinding money and reporting to Mr Nobody worst than flipping burgers at the minimum wage? I mean what could possibly go wrong!!!!!
     
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    Junky,

    Thanks for the post.

    I have played a version of this is the past, you pointed it out to me...going to revisit it... I was actually out with the main kitchen flipper's this morning playing a jk style 24 1's labby at $10 face up table... It was fun...but ended up losing..just not aggro enough with the labby..it was fun though. My bet selection was a more complicated Punky inspired one..that bets 90% of shoe and doesn't take breaks to look for ladyboys

    Was just taking a break from my high limit kitchen table area as only table at 400 table casino that offers comission Bak was infested with Chinese Chimneys (heavy..heavy.smokers) and they play.so.slow my shoes went from one every 30 mins to one every 2 hour..

    And I was down about 8 units ....
    With the W-SoxyPunky 1.8 inches version style

    Again thanks, I'm reading through the forums and trying to find the publicly available info on your 7 columm stuff, I'm here for four more days....BBB PPP BBB stuff
     
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    "Is this for real?? Why even bother with such small returns??"
    **********

    Yeah Junky Real Kitchen ...it got worse too at my normal casino first night played 4 shoes and lost another 5 units minus comission, took some slutty time out in the main kitchen playing $10 units...

    39 shoes.. +3 units minus commission.. most shoes tracked 55 hands about 10 bets per shoe.... Yes I'm a.kitchen table.loser playing for kitchen comps.... :)

    Yoyoyo
     
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