Baccarat Ellis Davis Clifton & S40 & NOR

CT70 is in the house.
BTC was Keith’s forum but he didn’t know his ass from his elbow about baccarat and couldn’t teach.
He didn’t like the fact that we were doing all the teaching. So he kicked us out and deleted all the good thread we had written over the years.

 

Greetings, a earlier mention of Ellis's hit rate of 50% is easily understood. To chose between a single or a 2+, a person can be about 50% correct in the long term . I do understand the idea of a shoe bias and have played shoes that never went over 3 in a row.
Any discussion of a method of play is a welcomed exercise of logic.
One element that I have difficulty of overcoming is the long-term law of averages. For example, I believe we all know that in the LT singles will occur 50% of the time, two in a row 25% of the time, three in a row 12.5% of the time
, Etc.
To predict correctly that P or B will occur one more time , or one less time in the LT is about 50% .

 

if you can hit &50 in every shoe you will become very rich so shut the fuc up and go back to shcool

 

This coming from a guy with a -10 stop loss. Lmfao

 

Only real losers ask for a stop loss, i do not have one but just to entertain you i thought i would state one,your 3 QUEsTION BS is just proof that you can not win, what a genuis i have 3 QS and this is my brain storm to show the internet that i am smart

 

Your simple statement clearly indicates you don’t know your ass from your elbow. I’d like to see you say stop loss doesn’t matter when you’re betting 1K units.

 

CT70 I was wondering how kevin paired we keith when your group parted ways no malice intended

 

OMG here is a player that tells everyone he hits 60% in Bacarrat and now bets $1000 per hand, i guess you must be flying around on your private jet just kicking the shit out of every casino you land on, well i am not in your league but i am happy with making $200 to $300 per day online and $150to $$300 in BM and the great part is unit bets are very comfortable(NEG PRO) 3 to 5 units per shoe(BET SELECTION BET SELECTION BET SELECTION) the key to beating this game every fucking day is hitting between %38 and %50

 

Well at least we agree on one thing.

 

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"if you can hit &50 in every shoe you will become very rich"
Not necessarily, all depends on the win vs loss strings, while hitting 50% sounds great, not much use if you have survive 6 or more LIAR before 6Wiar.

"Only real losers ask for a stop loss, i do not have one"
Haha, totally agree, I don't have one either, if you stil have access to cash, then you can still battle and recoup, fatigue withstanding...

 

That sounds like a D G. You are kidding .

 

Greetings,
A hit ratio at 50% isn't high enough to make a profit long-term. Its an almost breakeven proposition.
If you're a long-term player you may include the comps in your win ratio.

 

Greetings:
I enjoy discussing Ellis. I believe he is one of the brightest minds in Baccarat.

 

To be fair to Ellis, he had the idea that you needed to see what was currently working and then implement something to take advantage. You can't really fault that and all the other system sellers of that era like Mataya and Silverthorne were pretty much just into Money Management which has it's place but is no substitute for bet selection. Let's face it, if something is losing, it doesn't matter how much you throw at it or in what order, it won't help you.

 

Ellis’ systems worked in theory but not in live play. Every one of his systems had a nemesis. He was a great snake oil salesman. With as much as he bragged about how great he thought he was, you’d think he would have made millions. The reality is he is broke.

 

Engrave these words on stones

 

Greetings:
Several good theories and Technical Minds contained in these threads... the Star system shared by Jimsky , forgive me if I miscredit.

A long discussion of symmetric and asymmetric by asymbacguy. My head still hurts trying to wrap my mind around that.

Jae had good points , but I can't describe the system.

cps10. Serious approach to the game of Baccarat

To many more to list.

In those early days was my first exposure to, time before last. and. opposite time before last. Ellis sparked my interest with his methods. This led me to expand on several methods to create my own successful way of playing baccarat.

Oh, it wasn't easy and many dead ends . Over years I dedicated my time to focus on texture or attempting to control the texture.

I'm not going to attempt to discuss in any great detail anyone's methods but thank you for everyone's input and years of dedication.