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Discussion in 'Lounge' started by OneArmedBandit, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    I'm prepared to live under Hillary's authoriatism or Donald Trump's gambling game. Whichever the way the game breaks out you can bet your ass I be studin' the shit. I ain't gonna let either of two assholes catch me with my pants down. I'm makin' my own plans. Fuck you.
     
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  2. gizmotron

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    Hey JunKKK in the Pants, you are one funny bunny. Before WWII we had a pathetic Air Force, 16th in the FuKKKing world. We didn't really help win WWII. Hitler lost it over two historical moments of mistakes. He switched from bombing the English airfields and switched to London and he held up the delivery of the Messerschmidt 262 attack jet fighter. He could have brought the 262 to full prediction a full year before the point that it did go into prediction. We, the USA Air Force, have the best state of the art mother fucking jets and all you all can eat shit. That's up your fuKKing asss foool.
     
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    Hitler's big strategic mistake: the trifecta: simultaneously having operations in western Europe, North Africa, and the eastern front.
     
  4. gizmotron

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    If Hitler had mass production of the ME 262 all those theaters of political incorrectness would have been dogshit for the allies. Try to think of all this out. The entire world war would have been fought from Greenland with a strategic long range bomber that has not been invented yet. They would have perfected the New York Rocket by the time we invented the B-29. There would never have been a p-51 3,000 mile escort fighter plane. There still is not a 3,000 mile fighter plane. Get with it.

    I tried to enter production and I got "prediction" in the post above.
     
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  5. Mickey Crimm

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    The Germans were the first to split the atom. After the war Nixon told Kruschov "our German scientists are smarter than your German scientists."
     
  6. gizmotron

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    That's nice but it applies to the space race. I truly hate Post Modernism. The world is fucked.

    This is where the atom was first split:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford

    Goddard was an American scientist that taught the Germans rocket science long before the Americans thought it was a good idea.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard
     
  7. MrV

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    Pshaw.

    Had Germany in fact shown such a threat, the US would have focused development of its atomic weapons on Deuthschland.

    Now, had you the insight to say "had Hitler focused all of Germany's efforts on developing atomic weapons instead of waging a three front war" then I'd agree.

    The ME-262, while impressive, would not have turned the tide.

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  8. Junket King

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    I'm pretty sure most participating in this thread didn't go to college. Yes people will believe what they want, doesn't mean they are right, yes it won't change their ignorant ways either. To claim Trump is not a racist, err the NY five, acquitted over Central Park. Trump says they are still guilty, was that because they are Black by any chance. He is tapping in to the mass under-current of racism that exists in ameriKa. Maybe things will be different in another 100~200 years if your country hasn't blown up the planet by then, because it's only been about 40 years since your apartheid and a lot of you old timers need to turn to ash so the a new way of thinking, a new generation can take over.

    Feel free to fill in the missing history blank, but when ameriKa finally stopped bombing the shit out of Laos, Cambodia, Nam, the world was a reasonable place, (except for Ollies covert operation in South America) our big, brash, loud mouthed ameriKan cousins were liked and welcomed around the world. Every thing in ameriKA was bigger, faster, brighter and New York City the place that never sleeps, everything happens first in "the Big Apple".

    Then Saddam decided to take back Kuwait, which historically was part of Mesopotamia anyway, Kuwait only being about 50 years old. Mainly craved up by the British, I mean who the fuck draws straight lines in a desert and say this is one country and this is another. Okay so the Yanks go in and quote, it was like a turkey shoot for anything moving out of Kuwait back to Iraq. But then you fuckin' stop at Bassra, because you had no plan B, you didn't really want to create a secular Iran backed Shia country, not in your interest and certainly not since the Ayatollah had replaced amerika's backed Shar [hostages, Carter].

    You had bases in Saudi Arabia, when you kicked Saddam's ass back to Baghdad. You made one fatal msitake you stayed, good strategic base the Kingdom of Saudi. Yes that peace loving country that beheads people in public squares for Saturday mornings (chop chop alley, doesn't let it's women drive) for entertainment. But Bush turns a blind eye to all of that, it is oil that matters.

    To simplify this, just image say the New York Dodgers have their fierce rivals set up a base camp in a corner of their ball-park (whoever the fuck they may be), or say Manchester United set up camp at Anfield home of Liverpool FC, at the invite of the respective owners. There would be riots, mass demonstrations, obviously this couldn't happen in the Kingdom of Saudi due to the brutality of the regime. Also those in the Middle East shall we say are a bit more fanatical when it comes to religion, which is their prerogative, Mecca which is in Saudi being the Holiest of all places.

    Not only is ameriKa propping up the much hated Zionist state, they planted themselves in Saudi for a war which has ended yet haven't left. The rest as we say is history, I'm sure Arsenal or Spurs to use soccer analogies would feel the exact same if their enemy was encamped on their hallowed turf. First you had the lunatics running riot in Iraq, something the tyrant Saddam never allowed, because again ameriKan's never had a plan B, eventually morphing into ISIS with Saudi backing, yes Saudi backing. Sunni and Shia hate each other more than any infidels and Trump is a fucking nut-job for saying Clinton and Obama created ISIS.

    Before the morphing of ISIL we had the event of Sept 11th, 2001, fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from, guess where? Yup Saudi Arabia. Go and do your own research into the oil connections between the Bush's and Saudi royals. Bin Laden stated as much himself, leaving aside the Israeli situation, his hatred stemmed from the fact, US troops are based on what they consider scared land. The war on Terror, Afghanistan has changed the world forever, there is no turning back, mistrust of it's own citizens is here to stay. Thank fuck amerika didn't have a crank "shoot for the hip" like Trump in charge when this happened, Bush was bad enough.
     
  9. MrV

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    Now Russia is waving its sword again, the old Evil Empire incarnant.

    Crimea (Sevastopol), now Syria (Tartus): who can blame then for wanting warm water ports?

    That's been their aim for centuries.
     
  10. redietz

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    JK,

    Most of what you wrote is available in Sociology 101 on any college campus. The problem is that it's too late by then. People believe what they prefer to believe.

    P.S. You gotta stop with the "AmeriKKKa" thing. I live in Tennessee, birthplace of the KKK, and I'm sure there are some copyrights on that word filed around here someplace. Pulaski, TN. Ya'll visit us soon, oKKKay?

    Quick trivia question. Jerome Bettis was the last famous athlete to be given the key to the city of Detroit. Who was the person who received the key to the city before Bettis?

    (There is a point to this question)
     
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    Answer: Saddam Hussein.
     
  12. gizmotron

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    That does not fit well with the time line. The first operational B-29 attack on Japan since the B-25 Doolittle Raid was September of 1944.
    The Battle of Britain was July 10, 1940 – October 31, 1940. Had that invasion occurred back then, there would not have been a wiping out of the Luftwaffe. But since Air Superiority was the deciding factor to pre-invasion of Europe, and because Britain became the primary staging area for wiping out the Luftwaffe, had the ME 262 been up and flying as a pursuit fighter a full year earlier, the bombings would have been halted. There was no way to wage a war from Iceland. We did have B-17 and B-24 bombers from Italy though. Thanks to the people in Norway we were far ahead of the Germans with the A-bomb. Everything hinged on the Battle of Britain. Hitler made the decision to bomb London and because of it he lost the war.
     
  13. Junket King

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    Putin is a very dangerous individual, extremely dangerous, former KBG operative and chief. Somebody who read a book about his time in East Berlin, said he is sadistic and has personally killed many, including torturing women for days. He also has a petulance for little boys. You never know what he is capable of, what he might do as he gets on in his years, will he become more power hungry, for sure he is trying to undo what Yelsin and Gorbachev did. Is it worth us all dying in some nuclear WW3 nightmare scenario over Syria?

    A madman and despot, according to the Donald, somebody he could do business with. Trump may be a good business man, actually how times has he declared bankruptcy, but he has bounced back I'll give him that, but up on world affairs, it's President of the United States a World Super Power he is running for, not President of some Caribbean nation, which is why the rest of the world eyes ameriKa and holds it's breath.

    Hitler's mistake was allowing the evacuation of Dunkirk, which allowed the allies to regroup, also the invasion of Russia, he may have taken Stalingrad and even made it to Moscow, but he would never have taken or held on to the entire Soviet Union, too big, bogged down for decades. Good old Winston Churchill, without him Britain would not have survived, especially when you consider how weak Atlee "peace in our time" has before him. But Churchill was another despot, after the cessation of WW2, he wanted the Allies to invade and nuke the Soviet Union but Roosevelt told him basically to do one and his party was booted out of Parliament at the next election.

    Should be made compulsory then shouldn't it.
     
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  14. Mickey Crimm

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    Hey, Limey JK, the AmeriKKans learned slavery from you English fucks. So you went to college and became an educated idiot, I'm happy for you. The Americans learned slavery from you English fucks. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! We also learned colonialism from you English fucks. BWAHAHAHAHHA! Guess who drew up all the borders that got things all fucked up in the Middle East. It was you English fucks. BWAHAHAHAHA!
     

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    My point: If it's not compulsory by seventh or eighth grade, then it's pointless, because enculturation trumps it (to coin a phrase).

    One should not, by the way, assume folks who back Trump are an undereducated lot, education being what it is these days. The most striking info to come from the Maher interview was his report that the average person attending Trump rallies makes 72K. That probably means college educated, JK.
     
  16. Junket King

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    You yanks took it to a whole new level and fought pretty hard to hang on to the privileged.

    Yes unfortunately, there was also the Spanish, the Portuguese, no argument our forefathers have a lot to answer for. Even in the 21st Century it still continues, Guam, Diego Garcia (local population clear out by the British before being handed over to the Yanks). Why is half of Samoa called still called American Samoa? What's the story with Puerto Rico, but fuck all that, it's history.

    What is striking, are stupid fuckers coming into this thread moaning about taxes, potential tax hikes, cost of medical insurance, without having a clue what their taxes are going towards, such as the US military having more foreign bases than any other people, nation or empire in history. 800 bases around the world at a cost of $150bn per annum, each solider based overseas, costing you the tax payer $40k each.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321

    It's one thing for a nation to be able to defend it's self, maybe protect it's interests, then there is simple overkill while seriously neglecting issues on the home front. AmeriKa is like a super military machine, which I'm sure makes you all feel so very proud and safe in your beds at night, yet you can't exactly confront the Russians over Syria, or the Chinese over the Senkaku Islands, you can't get rid of Kim Jong-un to help the North Korean people (no oil in N Korea btw), because all these countries have their own nukes.

    So what is the fucking point of this giant military machine, 4th of July parades maybe, keep the sand-nigga's in line? Is there a purpose for the United States to be spending the combined expenditure of the next 25 nations military budgets? Yet people complain about taxes. It's not really Democrat or Republican, Clinton or Trump thing is it, it's more to do with your nations psyche, gun loving warmongers.
     
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    Fuck you couldn't even do anything about Boko Haram despite the outrage from the White House. It nothing but a charade, but hey some people have to get rich and kids have to die, so long as it's the politicians families.
     
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    I grew up in the 60's and early 70's. What strikes me is how many of the things that were described at the time as evil characteristics of the Soviets (disproportional military spending, 1% to 2% incarceration rates, ubiquitous civilian monitoring) are now accepted as benign attributes of the United States.
     
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    Nothin' wrong with a bit of gun love. Currently enamored with a Ruger Super Blackhawk, double action, chambered in .454 Casull. Hopefully before next fall /fingers crossed
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    AmeriKa's love of guns, the nations love of armoury, ordinates, up to date nukes and everything in between = higher taxes.
    How do you manage to pay for it all? Oh wait you don't, $20 Trillion in debt. If you were any other country on the planet, you would be paying $25000 for a loaf of bread, just like in Zimbabewe.

    But fuck off, this is a amerika baby

    Keep Dancing
     
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