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TurboGenius Coldest Number Theory Part II aka "Combined Deviation"

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jun 27, 2022.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So this has been bouncing around in my head for a long time.
    I started a demo account to show if it works or not, some sample runs, etc.
    All flat bet - no progression.
    So the scoring is explained below...
    Any number with a score of 4 gets 1 unit.
    Any number with a score of 5 gets 2 units.
    Any number with a score of 6 gets 3 units.
    Scores of 0,1,2,3 are considered hot and/or average and not played.

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    So the one dip so far was my own mistake and not the bet selection.
    And there's no saying it's going to keep going like this - but it IS flat betting with no
    progression.

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    How points are calculated :

    A cycle of spins are run off/charted (in this case 37)

    Any number that hasn't appeared gets 1 point.
    Next we look at the even money bets. For example, Red is behind Black.
    Every Red number gets a point added to it.
    The same goes for High / Low and Even / Odd.
    The maximum points a number can have now is 4
    Now on to the dozens and columns.
    The coldest dozen numbers all get a point added to them.
    The coldest column numbers all get a point added to them.

    Now you have every number on the table with a score from 0 to 6

    Numbers are removed from play once they win.

    If all of the numbers have won, you can repeat the process 1 more time
    so long as you have numbers that haven't appeared yet.

    I think this is an interesting approach for a bet selection and ranks numbers
    that all appear to be equally "cold" in an order that shows some are much more
    colder than others. Dare I say they are more likely to appear due to the limits of random.

    Thanks Bago lol

    The original thread from almost 2 years ago was popular and very good results were posted
    from testing, but it (like others) is gathering dust.
    Just throwing it out to explore a little more how this works without a progression.

    Cheers
    Turbo / Ed

    Original thread here :
    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/coldest-number-theory.19921/
     
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  2. Gigi666

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    I was testing your original idea back then, it was as usual hit and miss not enough consistency, though scoring system was slightly different and I think we kept the stakes same across all the numbers that qualified. I also remember adding new numbers every 37 spin cycle.
     
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  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yes, trying to make it a little easier to play and have a larger bet on numbers with a higher score.
    Either way it's interesting and will see how it plays out.
     
  4. Gigi666

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    With the above simplified system, you do end up betting more numbers, I am surprised looking at your sessions you usually have 1-3 numbers and with 1u on them, rarely a 2u, while picking any random spin file I have, I get as many as 12 numbers with score 4+ and those with 6 are not unusual.
    Of course question is should we add points for dozens or columns if two are equally colder than 1 hot one or not. for example doz1 11 hits, doz2 11 hits, doz3 15 hits
     
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  5. Gigi666

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    Results from that file (keeping numbers that had 2-3u on them and decreasing each time they hit would probably make a better return, but its just one session) removed any hitters and added new numbers every 37 spins
    upload_2022-6-27_3-23-54.png
     
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  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What I tried to do, not always but it probably makes the most sense - is to just start over if there is a tie in any of the even money or
    doz/columns for the coldest location.

    It might even be better to only bet the 5's and 6's and drop the 4's from the play list.
    *work in progress*
     
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  7. TurboGenius

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    Or even to not remove the winners and let that coldest group / highest scoring numbers return to average or become hot.
    Many options...
     

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    As far as I've seen 6'es always hit within next 37 spins ,dont think it'll always be the case though. Will post some more testing with base variant and v2 where all qualified numbers are kept for cycle duration.
     
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  9. Gigi666

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    Neither approach provides any significant advantage or consistent positive results, so its same as when I tested it in the past.
     
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  10. Gigi666

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    @TurboGenius if you care to help 1 more person to be able to profit consistently from repeats, that can't figure it out, you know my email, I'll be happy to receive any help :)
     
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    You and me both gigi
     
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    Me too!!!
     
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    Hi there, I made this but it needs some tweaks.
    Insert the first 37 then start playing.
     

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  14. Matt Apollo 88

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    Have you tried looking at 54 spins instead of 37. I understand 37 is one cycle but iv found 1.5 cycles 54 spins is a nice point. Like the unhits numbers are still not really that cold yet it’s only 1.5 cycles… so could easily have a quick catch up.

    maybe it’s worth a look with this points system like turbo suggested.


    unhits that are within a

    Dozen/column with 15 or less hits in those 55 spins get 1 point (rough guess idea… maybe 12 or less??)

    just ideas but I do like that point of a number hitting for its 1st time after 55+ spins sleep.

    thanks
     
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  15. Naughty but nice

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    Hi Mat

    I never worked with the math view of 37. I recorded in blocks of 10 spins.

    The old bookmakers betting slips, I just wrote in columns of 10. Came to 60 spins was a nice set of spins.

    Now after 60 spins the often remaining 7 non-hits have shown in another 60 spins.

    If you look in, I take my hat of to Turbo, reply #62, you can see how many left. Save you having to go and look, just 8 remain.

    Are you a London red?
     
  16. Matt Apollo 88

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    Manchester born red now living in Yorkshire!

    yeah bookies machines roulette terrible nowadays after new updated laws etc.

    Yeah the reason why I say 55 is I did a little test only thousand or so spins but I was flat betting the latest 2 numbers to of hit for 1st time in 55 spins. (Basically just slept for 54+ spins then hit)

    so latest 2 to do this, removing oldest with newest and continuously only looking at previous 55 spins window.

    Thanks
     

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  17. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    These #'s are from a Turbo Fan, close to 33*33.
    I always look at other players on R-sim. Find out what the stream was like.
    Here is point 54 of the stream. Look how the repeats are behind.
    upload_2022-7-10_10-57-32.png
    30 spins -4 to the average. This just means non-hits are fast. A bucket of KFC Dr Sir. He'll get it
     
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    upload_2022-7-10_11-2-6.png
    So, at 60 spins its the old 30/30 repeats have caught up.
    If you look at T8 is a fail. Same for T3. That #23 gives both the match.
    Swings and round abouts.
     
  19. Matt Apollo 88

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    Then to stick with the thread and what turbo has explain with the points.

    A unhit after 54+ spins of sleep. (Continuesly only looking at 55 spins window)

    That number has to be from a dozen or column hit 10 or less times?

    or

    That number has to be from a EC hit 20 or less times

    just ideas but definitely seems like a nice way of narrowing down the bet selection and trying to catch a horse catching up.


    Thanks
     
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  20. Naughty but nice

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    This topic or any of the topics you only have to understand how the stream shows.
    The best for that was GUT 37 to 0
     

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