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Craps Consumer Warning - Heavy's Biased Dice ...

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by Harley, Apr 20, 2015.

  1. Harley

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  2. Harley

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    Location: Texas - where else?
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  3. Harley

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    Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 aka MisterAK posted on his board:

    Interesting that the same company (Midwest Game Supply) that you buy your dice from is also the same company that makes my casino grade calipers that you call "junk" ... see for yourself the exact same casino grade caliper used by over 90% of casinos and Gaming Commissions worldwide - not "cheap, beat-up piece of junk" as you claim on their website:

    dice_caliper.jpg

    http://www.midwestgamesupply.com/SKUs/Dice_Tools_Calipers.htm


    Now how is it a "responsibility" to your consumers to spin mistruths 1st about how imbalanced the dice are that you sell, then calling the casino grade equipment sold by the very same company you buy your dice from as cheap junk o_O .... typical car salesman diversion from the truth :rolleyes:
     
  4. MisterAK

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    MisterAK has noticed a great deal of activity by Harley in the past 24 hours. His many posts include things like "I agree," "Didn't happen," and even a Happy Face! If I did not know better I would think he was trying to force a post on page one of the forum down to page two! Perhaps there was something posted that the head of the half-brain trust does not want the rest of the world to see. Of course, it is difficult to tell with this individual. I believe he suffers from obsessive/compulsive disorder, especially where it comes to Heavy. His posting makes it evident that he has "issues" as well. We should all offer our prayers for his recovery.
     
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    You know Harley I actually hope that "fishline", oops I mean "fish", buys a "shipload of Heavy's balanced dice". At $42.00 per order can get pretty expensive, but since both he and Heavy dance to the same tune, there probably will be a "discount" per order. Perhaps fish can do a video demo for all to see just how "balance" or "unbalanced" Heavy's dice really are. But fish has to wear the "gloves" so no "shit' gets on the dice. Just sayin.
     
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    You're stealing my lines. Just sayin...
     

  8. Harley

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    Received a notice from one of Heavy's customer's - [Admin Edit: Name of minor removed] - and she is pretty upset as to why her own Hillbilly kin from Arkansas would sell her unbalanced dice:

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    Well... I like to know what casinos the "certified by the manufacturer to be perfectly balanced" is selling dice too.
     
  10. MisterAK

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    MisterAK is happy to provide MarkV with the information requested. http://www.midwestgamesupply.com/customers.htm

    Google. Imagine that.

    I spoke with Heavy while en route to Quebec yesterday and requested that he run a sale on dice in his newsletter this month. I am running low on dice myself. Unfortunately, he said there has been such a demand for his Certified Unbalanced Dice at $59 plus shipping and handling that he anticipates being out of his 2015 series of dice by the time the newsletter goes in the e-mail. Clearly his dice must be popular if he has sold out his entire 2015 supply in just 4 months. Hopefully he will produce a second run of 2015 dice to meet the demand for Certified Unbalanced Dice. Perhaps he could do the second run in different colors. Instead of red and green he could do dark blue and tangerine. Something for the dice collectors who routinely buy his dice and ask him to autograph them. I will suggest this to him after we bag our wild turkey limit on this week's hunt.
     
  11. Harley

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    Improved sound for Heavy's unbalanced dice ... so MisterAK/Heavy why don't you offer video proof of what you are selling instead of making personal attacks on the messenger - or is that the only rebuttal you have ?!!!

     
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    Harley -

    In ALL honesty -

    YOU posted a video which was assumedly produced and uploaded on YouTube by AHigh -

    Aaron put clear tape on the " 6 Pips " of 2 dice and proceeded to toss a sequence of recorded rolls by these " LOADED " dice -

    During the course of a 15 - 20 roll hand with these ' Intentionally BIASED DICE ' -

    NOT ONE - " 1 " OR " 6 " appeared on either die -

    I challenged YOU at THAT TIME -

    AND - if NEED BE - will reference MY POST on crapsforum.com to validate MY CLAIM -

    YOU elected to IGNORE MY VALID questioning of the NON-EFFECT that " BIASED DICE " exhibit on the outcome in a " REAL GAME " -

    YET - NOW - YOU put the shoe on the " Other Foot " - and WRONGLY proclaim that weighted / imbalanced dice DO INFLUENCE the toss outcome -

    I CHALLENGE YOU - to Re-Post THOSE " Unavailable Videos " which PROVE YOU TOTALLY WRONG !

    Of Course - I expect - NONE OTHER - than some derogatory remark from you, the dick or your cronies which WILL TOTALLY EVADE the question / OR - IGNORE IT !

    It is NOT TOO difficult to be able to distinguish fecal matter in ANY shape OR form - and be able to ignore it- without resorting to having to put one's nose too close to the source !

    YOU DO NOT have the INTESTINAL FORTITUDE to post the video that I reference !

    SIMPLY - because YOU know - as I - YOU are full of IT !

    And " IT " is " brown stuff ' where " Grey Matter " should be !

    $...eE..$
     
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    SnakeEyes - you have no valid questions - you never have as your observation skills are lacking and less than that of a 1st grade detective
    SnakeEyes - this is where you are dead wrong on several occasions:

    1. In the 1st 10 seconds, credits for the video are to Koganinja - not Aaron or AHigh :rolleyes:

    2. The very 1st roll of the dice in the video produces a :d6: :rolleyes:
    ....... plus SEVERAL other 6s and 1s throughout the tosses

    3. And at minute 7:20, the roll produces a :d6::d1: :rolleyes: o_O



    No one ever said these were Hollywood loaded magnet dice that rolled a 6 or 1 every roll -- they are loaded percentage dice -- huge difference !! Refer to John Scarne for definition of Percentage dice or just listen to the above video

    SnakeEyes - knowledgeable craps players ignore your posts for a reason - they are full of drunken late night fallacies that most of the time deserve no comment
     
  14. $nakeEye$

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    Harley -

    The video posted by YOU is NOT the video that is referenced in the following post :

    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/d...s-ever-use-biased-dice.2867/page-3#post-29580

    If one goes back a few threads in THIS POST - it is readily apparent / obvious that YOU are NOT showing the SAME video that I critiqued -

    Also - in the ACTUAL VIDEO - the sequences were shot on an ACTUAL / BONA FIDE craps table -

    NOT - some lame brain layout as is depicted in YOUR SUPPLIED video -

    Perhaps - SOME DAY - YOU will give an HONEST answer to a valid question that one poses to you !

    By reading MY dialogue - and the dialogue spoken by KogaNinja in YOUR video -

    It does not take a " Detective " to deduce we are NOT referencing the SAME VIDEO !

    $...eE..$
     

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    ALSO -

    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/d...s-ever-use-biased-dice.2867/page-3#post-30542

    Provides reference to dispute YOUR typical irrelevant response !

    $...eE..$
     
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    I recently purchased some of Heavy's "Harley Certified Biased Dice" and had the opportunity to practice with them before going to Vegas last week. I tossed many hands in the twenties and thirties. Thank goodness I had the opportunity to practice with the same type of dice the casinos use!
     
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    LOL...
     
  18. Harley

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    Exactly - poor SnakeEyes :rolleyes:

    SnakeEyes - this is why no one can take you seriously ... 3 seconds into the video posted above by me is exactly the same video you wrote in your link: o_O

    SnakeEyes - I have wasted enough time trying to answer your drunk queries that make no sense - you are 1 of "Those who do not see"

    There are 3 classes of people:
    - Those who see;
    - Those who see when they are shown;
    - Those who do not see; ...Leonardo Da Vinci
     
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    YOU, SIR -

    Are in a CLASS ALL YOUR OWN -

    - Those who have their anterior imbedded up their posterior so deep that they think that they can " Smell the Roses " AND are BLIND to EVERYTHING ELSE ! - $nakeEye$

    $...eE..$
     
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    Sadly MisterAK - you too are one of "Those who do not see" :rolleyes: How do you know that Heavy's unbalanced dice are weighted the same way as those in whichever casino you are playing ?!!!

    Dice can be Weighted 26 Different Ways ...

    See http://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/dice-can-be-weighted-26-different-ways.1330/
     

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