1. Welcome to the #1 Gambling Community with the best minds across the entire gambling spectrum. REGISTER NOW!
  2. Have a gambling question?

    Post it here and our gambling experts will answer it!
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Discussions in this section are assumed to be EV- as they are outside of the Advantage Play section. For EV+ discussions, please visit the Advantage Play section.
    Dismiss Notice

Las Vegas GF Chat Room

Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

This is a Designated Unrestricted Area and is moderated more lightly and may therefore contain more offensive language. Reader beware.
  1. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Likes:
    666
    Occupation:
    attorney at law (retired)
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    I've never gotten the RV bug.

    It just "does not compute" for me and my wife.

    Perhaps we are too addicted to the comforts and the space of our home?

    Obviously you enjoy the RV life, it must agree with you.

    Funny, when I was a young man, a year after graduating from college, I spent four or so months traveling the USA in my '65 Chevy II, stayng with friends and family when possible but usually sleeping in a pup tent:and I liked it.

    These days I cringe at the idea.

    Guess I got soft.
     
  2. RobSinger

    RobSinger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Likes:
    83
    Location:
    S. Dakota
    Modern day RV's are a far cry from old time camping. Even this little camper has a freezer, ice, fridge, oven & stove, microwave, bathroom with shower, Bluetooth satellite radio, DVD player, 2 TV's, led lights inside and out, and an outdoor entertainment system. Most larger RV's put this to shame. But the bed is super comfortable for us and our dog, but only after I changed the mattress

    We lived in the Newell for almost 5 years, and even with all that bling and gadgetry, I'll take living in our home any day also. We only got into RVing because we were curious about the lifestyle. We do it now mostly to have a way to visit the Tahoe area for our summers.
     
  3. RobSinger

    RobSinger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Likes:
    83
    Location:
    S. Dakota
    One additional point, and perhaps the most important: getting any RV is a bad buy. Most of them are costly given how almost all of it comes from parts made in China, and how cheaply they're thrown together in an avg. time of just TWO HOURS.

    They depreciate 20% 1 minute after you sign the papers and it just keeps going down from there. Upkeep & maintenance is expensive ($150/hr. right now for mobile) which is how the majority of RV''s are repaired.

    They get or cause bad fuel mileage, put undue wear and tear on your tow vehicle, and you get zero breaks from DMV's or insurance companies cost-wise.

    In short, they are money pits of the worst kind, and the bigger and more luxurious the rig, the deeper the pockets you need. Unless you have a lot of spare cash hanging around, nobody buys the million dollar rigs. Oil changes can run $900, tires cost thousands, and their multiple lithium batteries are just as expensive.

    You were smart to stay away.
     
  4. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Likes:
    666
    Occupation:
    attorney at law (retired)
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Just curious...when in the Tahoe area for the summer, staying in your RV, what activities do you engage in to pass the time?

    Is gambling high on the list?

    Hiking?

    Sight seeing?

    Talking with fellow campers?
     
  5. RobSinger

    RobSinger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Likes:
    83
    Location:
    S. Dakota
    Lots of chatting because to RVers it's interesting hearing others' stories of their lives. We do lots of walking but not so much hiking any more. We really enjoy fishing on the lake and just riding around on boats. Sight seeing in the area surrounding never grows old. Gambling about once a month but we do stay in various hotels at least one night a week for a sort of break.

    And lots of working on RV's :)
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2023
  6. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Likes:
    666
    Occupation:
    attorney at law (retired)
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Sounds like a personally satisfying way to go about it.

    One follow up: when you say "lots of working on RV's:" what type of work are you talking about?

    Somehow I cannot picture you getting your hands and clothes greasy / dirty from mechanical repair.
     
  7. RobSinger

    RobSinger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Likes:
    83
    Location:
    S. Dakota
    Wrong MrV. I've been working on cars and engines since I got my first car in college--a tri-powered 1962 Austin Healey 3000. And with all the muscle cars I've had and still have, learning repairs and upgrades was an absolute necessity. In fact, I put a turbo on the truck I pull out camper with.
     

  8. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Likes:
    666
    Occupation:
    attorney at law (retired)
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Let me guess: a Banks turbo?

    My son had one on their shop truck: massive torque from the diesel.

    Anyway, at the moment I am taking a break from trying to reinstall the engine/tranny in my Volvo; just cannot find the correct method to slip it in without it hanging up.

    Patience and the will to succeed should see me through.
     
    oopsididitagain likes this.
  9. RobSinger

    RobSinger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Likes:
    83
    Location:
    S. Dakota
    A Hamburger turbo. Funny name but it's only added on really for when I tow.

    Persistence wins out every time when doing major repairs. (And cursing out the Swedes.)
     
  10. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Likes:
    666
    Occupation:
    attorney at law (retired)
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Got the engine / transmission wedged in and bolted down, FINALLY.

    My wife helped, providing an extra pair of eyes and arms.

    This AM is Portland's Grand Floral Parade: I'll watch it on TV.
     
  11. RobSinger

    RobSinger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Likes:
    83
    Location:
    S. Dakota
    Always good to have extra muscle around!

    A parade in Portland? Isn't that asking for trouble?
     
  12. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Likes:
    666
    Occupation:
    attorney at law (retired)
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    They changed the parade route to avoid the mess which is downtown Portland; it is all on the east side now, near the Moda Center and Lloyd Center.
     
  13. Blackhole

    Blackhole Active Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Likes:
    178
    Location:
    USA
    It is hard to believe that Kewlj is on VCT talking about Mike Shank (WOV) as if he’s a person of dignity, a friend of his, and one that could be trusted.

    The only thing that man is good for is doing gambling math. Obviously, not too useful for anything considering he went broke using it. What is even worse than that is none of his forum professional AP pals would help him when he was broke. A few members made donations to him but no different than making donations to the Salvation Army.

    I know most people reading these forums more than likely have the wrong idea about gamblers, unless of course they themselves are true gamblers. Then they already know the truth.

    99.9 % of serious gamblers especially the ones who claim to do it for a living are the true scum of the earth. Most would screw their family and friends if it meant they would come out on top. They will lie, cheat, swindle, steal, and bullshit just about everyone they come in contact with if it meant retaining more ammo for the next bet or a temporary win. You read about many of their maneuvers tricking floppies. Trust me, that is nothing when compared to dealing with them directly.

    Hard gamblers always had a stink that followed them around. I declined a franchise to a person I heard was a big gambler. Most anyone having the choice will decline putting someone known as a gambler in certain positions. There is a reason for this and that reputation proved itself over and over again over the years. Gambling hard was always frowned upon and still is with good reason.

    No one should trust anything they say, EVER. Especially on gambling forums.

    Expect the war stories to follow. But don’t expect a single speck of proof of how wonderful they really are…..
     
    oopsididitagain likes this.
  14. redietz

    redietz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2016
    Likes:
    335
    Location:
    Tennessee
    I'm not sure this qualifies as a war story, but it is reality.

    The difference between "sports handicapping" and "sports gambling" -- including alleged AP "sports gambling" -- is that handicapping has third parties who can verify or debunk any claims. If your plays appear in contests, with monitors, and with clients for years or decades, it's hard to publicly lie about them in some ongoing fashion. If you're in national newsletters every week putting your opinions out there, or on television, then winning and losing is a public endeavor. If you're in competitions under your own name, there really isn't anywhere to hide, and not much room to bullshit.

    Now it's possible for someone to bang out 10-year or 20-year winning records in the public eye, and still be a degenerate who blows money betting all sports or things other than sports, but you'd be surprised how intimate a place like Las Vegas really is. If a person is a swami in one thing and a degenerate in general, the word usually gets around. Many famous sports handicappers, for example, who were quite good at one or two things, spun their wheels for decades trying to beat horse racing. Why everyone wants to conquer the world, I have no idea.
     

  15. RobSinger

    RobSinger Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Likes:
    83
    Location:
    S. Dakota
    As kew gets ripped apart limb by limb (or should I say "limp by limp"?) for his very obvious collection of lies surrounding his phony back-rooming whopper, he shows how stupid he really is by pretending he's waiting for a BIG money transfer from a make believe casino that had no lawsuit filed against it.

    He's also backtracked on his claims that MGM execs ran over to his apt. on Halloween just to drop off traceable personal financial info on MDawg. Now it's "just some guy he ran into".

    Liar liar. Again.
     
  16. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Likes:
    666
    Occupation:
    attorney at law (retired)
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Wait a minute.

    Are you saying that people actually LIE about gambling?

    Who knew?
     
  17. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2015
    Likes:
    746
    Doyle Brunson said he was cheated out of more money by guys wearing suits and ties than gamblers.

    Chip Reese said he got cheated by many more businessmen than gamblers.

    Billy Walters exposed himself on 60 minutes because he wanted it known how much more he had been swindled by the Wall Street guys than gamblers. He says it right at the end of the interview:

     
  18. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2015
    Likes:
    746
    Ditz, when you gonna tell us why Rob is a sleazeball for not teaching his friends how to beat sports betting promotions but you said you won't teach your family how to do it either. So why is Rob a sleazeball for it but not you?
     
  19. redietz

    redietz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2016
    Likes:
    335
    Location:
    Tennessee
    I show them how to do it, and I do it for them. I don't take any cut, much less 80% or 90% like Rob said he did. But then, if I show them how to do it, I have to shoulder the responsibility if they get hooked on the sports gambling bug. And I tell them that straightaway. So they are responsible for me being responsible.

    Anybody else, I'm more than happy to lay out how it should be done for zero compensation.

    In fact, there was this machine pro who asked how to do one sports promo, and I PM'ed him immediately with the off-the-top-of-my-head recommendations and what to look for. I don't remember the dude's name -- Brimm or Primm or something. I still have the PMs, I'll have to look them up.

    When you get the chance, let me know why Dancer and Munch couldn't squeeze me into GWAE. Inquiring minds and all that.

    My main gripe with Singer using his families' names is that he kept 80% or more of the money for himself, exhausting promos for his family while hogging the money. The FanDuel and other state-by-state promos are not, thus far, at all like offshore books' historical promos. They are like LV brick-and-mortar sign-ups -- one-and-done, or possibly a decade or more before another bonus. So when you blow your family's opportunities, they are not going to be available next season or next year. You used the promo for yourself.
     
  20. Blackhole

    Blackhole Active Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Likes:
    178
    Location:
    USA

    LOL at Mickey’s post. In his defense of gamblers, he seems to think that getting fucked by Wall Street people and suit and tie businessmen is some sort of a news flash.

    I could tell you from known experience that Wall Street people are no doubt far more crooked than the worst degenerate gambler. This doesn’t mean that gamblers are excused from anything they do. It just means Wall Street usually makes most gamblers look petty. I think Waters and Phil Mickelson both got hosed by Wall Street on the same deal. Your talking real money here. They stepped out of their lane thinking they had a straight up connection. Surprise…. Waters should have invested as much time and effort as he did with sports betting. If he did, I am sure he would not have gotten fucked that bad.

    Most people buy and sell stocks on their own or with a broker. They win some and lose some, and many could be ahead. But, to really make money on Wall Street you need to be connected to some degree. I know, I know, and expect all the great investors to step forward and brag about all the money they made and are still making. Of course, some hit the occasional jackpot just like slot machines. Yet, the truth is without connections you’re not going to make it big.

    I was involved with a personal friend who was a big wig at a large firm on Wall Street. We made money for a couple of years with no problems. We got involved with something to do with a group of hospitals in Florida. Two brothers in California who were the biggest short players in the world shorted the company like there was no tomorrow. My firm not only covered all the shorts the stock rose by $9.00 dollars a share. The SEC got involved and froze all trading on the company. They did a lot of bad stuff to cover all the shorts. My involvement got me charged with 13 felonies After 3 years of investigation and crazy legal fees, to include the need for tax lawyers, all charges were dropped except for one. Misleading a federal investigation. To rid that last charge I had to agree to getting fully disgorged-(to surrender or yield something, especially something illicitly obtained). This whole story is another book. lol

    Trust when I tell you I have a good idea how it works. Sadly, we got caught making it work. It is going on every day, even on holidays. Most only get to read about the real big ones.

    Micky, gambling crooks are not even in the same league.
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2023

Share This Page