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Kew has proven that he will make up ANYTHING to stop the hurt associated with the truth.

He twists the facts, swaps reality with his concocted bullshit, and if the result isn't suitable to him, he'll lie, lie some more, and lie again.

What's more, it isn't good enuf for him to just fabricate facts about anyone who has him pegged. He becomes so unglued that he's forced to concoct crazy far-fetched stories about himself, like his "back-rooming" whopper.

He definitively and forever answers the question: "Can One Human Being Be So Utterly Sick and Stupid At The Same Time"?

I'd toss in the words Psychotic and Neurotic too.

 

While we're on the subject of UNKewl lies (today he got caught red handed in one), let's discuss the end game of this fictional lawsuit of his.

Okay so Coach Belly noticed that UNKewlJ reported the signing of his fictional settlement agree on Juneteenth, a court holiday. But did anyone notice that as of Friday, even as of late Friday night NO mention of settlement funds in UNKewlJ's bank account and then suddenly on a non banking day Saturday he reports that the funds have just landed??

"Settlement money was transferred into my personal account overnight."
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/s...o-back-rooming&p=158976&viewfull=1#post158976

Look, I deposit checks, I get ACHs, I get wires, transfer funds never settle on a Saturday! Just another in a long line of lies from the UNKewl one.

Not only that but ACH and wire funds are available the MOMENT they land, so if they had landed on Friday they would have been there on Friday - not "overnight." (BUT they cannot and do not land on non-Banking days...like on a Saturday.)

During the course of the lawsuit he also came up with some very UNKewlJ obvious contradictions, such as that the casino just "handed over" the video before any lawsuit was filed (BUT, that a "judge" had to sign off on the order to get the video - lol - as if any judge would be involved in a case BEFORE it is filed), then he confused the terms and kept referring to the casino as the "Plaintiff" even after he supposedly signed a very long settlement document where obviously he would have seen the terms Plaintiff and Defendant repeatedly), said that the casino had 60 days to file an answer (in Nevada it is 21 days) also he was "confused" about whether a judge had to sign off on the settlement in the first place.

Then he claimed that he could not disclose the amount of settlement but has more than hinted at the amount (in three contradictory posts).

Now he is claiming that certain members of the AP community have looked up his lawsuit (but won't name how that is possible, or who those AP might be, as no one verifiable has found any record of it, only these "phantom" APs he will never name). Also claiming that the media contacted him about the lawsuit (but of course, no mention has been made in any newspaper).

Another out and out lie he dropped was that Wizard knows his full name and could look up his lawsuit if he wanted to. UNKewlJ is nothing more than a compulsive liar.

Not to mention how he first implied that it all happened at South Point and then later said no, it did not.

monet on what a flip flopping liar UNKewlJ is:
It never ends with this guy.
He posts one thing today and a week later tells everyone he was lying.
And does it how many times now?

etc. etc.

Now just sit back and let the UNKewl one
Ozzy on the UNKewl one: He's very UNKOOL and will remain so, till the end of time. Nothing can ever make him cool whatsoever !
try to "flail" his way out of this one. He will try, but, no one will buy it.

 

Not to mention his claim that "all the details will be out at any moment" but he can't explain why he doesn't end all the humiliation and post this non-existent case number himself.... ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S SUPPOSEDLY ALL GONNA COME OUT SOON!

But of course, MrV esq. believes every bit of this fraudster's tale. Why? Because he can't stand myself or mdawg.

 

LOL! Inspector KJ Clouseau at it again. Quit digging and admit you were wrong.

 

Robert, I can "stand" both you and Mdawg.

I am not a "hater" of either of you, if by that you'd mean I despise the two of you and the ground you walk on.

Rather I disbelieve your claims of winning and am not shy about displaying my disbelef.

Were this a different dynamic I'd not be averse to chatting and interacting like "normal" people do, sharing ideas without flaiming.

But we are where we are.

As for my belief of KJ's claim, I have stated I have questions about it, but he assures me it is genuine.

If it turns out he lied to me then well, Katie bar the door ... but I still am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Time will tell.

tick ... tick ... tick ...

 

Is his back-rooming story a gambling claim?

 

V, you should know his M.O. by now. Him "assuring you" is all you will ever get, because he's very sleazy and feels he has you securely roped into his concocted little online world.

You waiting for some kind of proof...like him providing the case no. since he claims it will come out "anyway"? Forgetabboutit! How about those local news people who've been chomping at the bit to report on this? Dream on soldier!

MDawg nicely laid out kew's suite of lies, missteps and miscalculations, but there's one more thing. Now kew claims Nersesian wasn't his attorney and it's some other guy he strangely doesn't have on speed-dial, which he was forced into saying after I called into Nersesian's office and an assistant said they never heard of "kew" or such a case recently.

Come on V, there's 0% chance kew didn't do this for his attention-craving. He needs to stay forum-relevant because he has nothing else. He never gives a complete story, never provides pictures of anything (probably because he knows when I & mdawg put them up the envious haters lie like crazy about them--and he's one of them) and he gets caught in so many really stupid lies.

Take whatever entertainment value you can from him, and thank your lucky stars you're not him.

 

Yes, you raise concerning issues about the backrooming story.

As a retired attorney I am most disturbed by his claim that a lawsuit was filed but Mdawg has been unable to find any proof of its existence.

There is no ambiguity to KJ's claim that a suit was filed, so either it was, or he lied about it.

Presumably it would have been filed in the Clark county court, but perhaps not: might the attorney have filed in another county, or perhaps in Federal court (but I see no basis to invoke Federal jurisdiction, i.e.no diversity, Federal question etc).

His blackjack stories struck me as likely, and he wears his heart on his sleeve, so I am still a bit open-minded.

But if he lied: he's toast.

 

Although I am sure the "troll Patrol" will jump in, doing what they do...TROLLING, but this response is really for only you MrV. I am just kind of tired of playing the troll games for the moment. Read that trolls.... FOR THE MOMENT!

So what exactly does this: "But if he lied: he's toast" mean? I will be burned at the stake?

Haven't the two trolls, I have mostly fucked with for the last year or two, Singer, and Mdawg been caught lying hundreds, maybe thousands of times, about everything under the sun.....big and small?

Mdawg on almost a daily basis with his gambling claims that defy everything from the math to the way Las Vegas works? The guy claims he has been comped over 1000 nights in high end suites over the last 4 years while winning mid 6 to 7 figures. There is probably a thousand posts with claims that aren't true to go along with those 1000 (supposed) nights in comped suites. What about the mid 7 figure mansion he purchased in Las Vegas?

Singer, well come on, I am not even going to start listing his BS claims that have been proven bullshit (often by himself). I would be here forever.

Now don't take this as an admission of anything. It is NOT. The fact is I am a guy who makes a living playing blackjack with a bit of other casino play mixed in. Call it a professional gambler, advantage player, or a guy who supports himself from casino play....whatever you prefer. Yes, I like to share my experiences and some of what I do and even some of the techniques and specifics of how I do what I do. When I can. That bolded part is very important.

Despite what you read from these haters, I am not an idiot. Not to pat myself on the back, but I am actually an expert in the narrow area of what I do. And I have learned a hell of a lot about what I can and can't do as well as what I can and can't say. Yes, dealing with these trolls, and not just these two, but the late Kevin Keen and a few others that have actually followed me from forum to forum trolling and hating, I have even learned how to play the troll game.

So my point is, as an AP, a guy who plays or gambles for a living, I can't share everything I do or all my experiences 100%. I share what I can without it harming me. And sometimes I have to delay or change some things. I recently had to intentionally mis-direct. And sometimes I can't even share things I would like to....there is just no way to do it without risk.

I would have thought people would have figured this out now. Not the trolls because they can't figure anything out except how to hate and lie. They are bitter losing players....EVERY one of them. But for anyone who hasn't figured it out, there is NO real player participating on any forum, or other platform, including podcasts or the recently ceased GWAE that is telling you everything. I think I have shared far more than most. Maybe far more than any other player ever (at least while he was still an active player). And yes, I have been burned a few times by doing so.

That is all. Continue on with the games played here.

 

Let me interject what I see as a problem with kewlJ's self-presentation.

I spent 20+ years, 100 days a year, in Las Vegas, sports betting at reasonably high stakes. I have also been a sports handicapper, professionally, for 45 years.

If someone asks me something, I either tell them the truth or I tell them I won't tell them specifically what they are asking because it would reveal too much about how I do things. That's the truth. Why tell them something else?

I cannot, for the life of me, see the value in "misdirecting" -- which is just lying, let's face it -- civilians. I would never make something up or throw in some incorrect details to throw people off the scent, so to speak. What's the point of writing anything in a forum if you (1) choose to "misdirect" the public and (2) decide after the fact if you will announce that you were "misdirecting" and (3) don't specifically explain what was "misdirected?" Why put civilians through some kind of soap opera where they have to figure out what's real in a business where 90% of what people claim is not?

If people ask me a specific question, I'm not going to make stuff up. That's kind of psychotic. You're manipulating an audience for no good reason.

 

First, just a comment Red. Odd that you open with how you are going to comment on me and then immediately give your 45 year resume, AGAIN. But that is ok.

Redietz, despite that we both have made a living via "gambling" and both have done so living or spending a great deal of time in Las Vegas, I have come to learn there are some big differences. This became evident when you voiced your position on anonymity.

I don't know exactly what you have done for 45 years because you have chosen not to share everything. Sound familiar?

I also don't know what you have encountered as far as the casino you do business with, earning your living trying to stop or prevent you from doing so. I am guessing your experience in this area is very different than mine, a card counter.

But whatever, since you have been selective in sharing what you do or have done, I find your comments about me to be very hypocritical. I don't know how much card counting you have done. I suspect some, and you understand the concept. Walk a mile in my shoes. Try making a living card counting, in one city, Las vegas (or mostly Las Vegas) for 13+ years and then get back to me on just how you can share EVERYTHING on public forums.

 

Red, you're leaving out one critical point when it comes to kew: he lies or is purposely ambiguous about almost everything about himself because he's chosen to live the majority of his life on these forums. This "life" has caused him to react with even more lies about anyone who calls him out for his BS.

When he starts his yapping about himself, he frequently leaves everything "up in the air" since he's not strong enuf to admit his faults, and he's not smart enuf to notice how it's taking him down. He's also not astute enuf when to realize enuf is enuf. I attribute that flaw to his lazy, unhappy, and unproductive generation, which has only become worse with these gen z mooches.

 

Thanks for not making stuff up when you said you didn't teach your family and friends how to work sports betting promotions. And thanks for not making stuff up when you later said you DID teach your family and friends how to work sports betting promotions. Thank you for clearing that up. You are a bastion of integrity. Thank you sooooooooooo much.

 

I teach family and friends about these bonuses at brick-and-mortar. How can you say otherwise since I taught you?

If you give me your phone number, I'll have some of them call you. But when I do teach people, I take responsibility for doing it. And I almost never teach friends or family about offshore "illegal" bonuses because then I'm responsible if the offshore goes down or goes bad or gets shut down by feds. I learned my lesson with Millennium -- lost 11K of my own. I was lucky it was the off-season. Other people got blasted. Had I taught people or coached them to get those bonuses, I would have been directly responsible for their losing that money.

And stop with the nonsense regarding taxes. If you actually filed as a professional gambler, you'd have it flying like a flag all over your twitter account. Some of us have actually filed as professional gamblers. Have you? LOL.

 

No, not quite.

If it turns out this broken arm claim was a fabrication, a troll if you will, then I will have no choice but to quetstion all you future claims.

I say this not because I care whether you lie to Robert or Mdawg: they deserve to get played.

No, it would really piss me off because of your private assurances to me via PM that the claim was real.

I've been one of your few supporters, KJ: if you lied to me that is like a slap in the face.

 

Actually MrV and I for a while now have ceased with the ad hominem attacks against each other and not referred to each other other than by our proper screen handles. And he’s also made it clear that he’s not buying UNKewl’s story entirely but rather just giving him the benefit of the doubt - for now. (“tick ... tick ... tick ...”)

 

UNKewlJ is incapable of holding anything back - has shown no self discipline , no restraint , no conviction , as far as jumping in with what he has to say even after swearing that he’s done with saying it, done with posting.

He is the very definition of someone who cannot keep a secret, cannot keep his mouth shut for any reason, even if it suits him.

As such it’s inconceivable that he could have held back on this back rooming story, dealyed reporting it, if it were true. Meaning - there is no way this could have happened (IF it ever happened) longer than the 2 - 3 months ago he has claimed. He’s revealed it in an albeit jumbled but still present day fashion the way he’s wanted to present it. He also double if not quadrupled down on that this all did in fact happen within the last 2 - 3 months.

So, if there really were a recent arm breaking back rooming incident, and given that he’s repeated ad nauseam that there is a filed and served lawsuit and that various members of the gaming community know about it and that even the press has gotten wind of it and contacted him, there’s just no way that the word on this wouldn’t already be out.

And if UNKewlJ were someone quite different from the constantly yapping incapable of holding his tongue even when it suits him type (of course - he’s not) but if he were - then that this event happened longer than 2-3 months ago would be even more reason for word on it to have already gotten out.

Dead men tell no tales (and as well, when there is no tale to be told in the first place too, no word ever gets out ) but in this case there are so many live sources UNKewJ has described who he claims are aware of what transpired that by now this major event would already be well known. If it really happened.

And still, no record of any such recent lawsuit against any Vegas casino in either state or federal court.

Indeed if you read between the lines of what he wrote above he practically seems to be saying that “maybe I made all this up but please at least believe me as to that I am a blackjack player.” Sad actually that he cares so much to be believed, but once again can't come up with anything concrete to back up anything he has to say.

 

And rightfully so MrV. I didn't lie to you. If I was going to lie, I wouldn't have needed to keep our conversation away from prying eyes.

Look, once I changed my mind and decided to pursue a legal remedy, I was immediately concerned about this poster that goes by Mdawg. I knew he would do everything in his power to sabotage and harm the case as well as try to use public information about me to further dox me. I spoke to a number of people about this specifically, including Michael Shackleford, who said he would ask Mdawg to butt out. Apparently, that had no effect. But based on conversations with several people, I did come up with a strategy that I thought and hoped would buy me some time, hopefully all the way until the end of the case. And it did.

Rob just happened to jump in with his "secret source' at SP and make a fool of himself. That was a bonus. I wasn't all that concerned with Rob.

It is an extra bonus that the case is over, settled and payment received and the guy that no doubt would use whatever information he could to try to harm me, still hasn't found any. I guess these guys now want me to point them towards something that they can use to try to harm me. That is how fucked up they are.

Again, the case is over. I have been paid. Not what I would have liked. But an amount I agreed to. I was able to share some of what occurred and have it serve as a warning to other players that this kind of casino abuse behavior that most of us thought was all but a thing of the past, seems to be on the rise again. There have been several cases in the past few years, that I wasn't even aware of before my incident. And there is a new one since my case. Not exactly the same. Not a backroom/illegal arrest and detention, but a casino abusing power. Players need to be aware and have a plan of what to do if it happens to them.

I feel good that I have shared my experience and hopefully got that message out. As recently as last week, I thought I might have interest in going on a podcast, one that I didn't have to show my face, because I felt like I had things to say. But I turned down an offer of that this week. There really isn't much more that I am able to say without violating the legal agreement. I would LOVE to name the casino, the supervisor (who this was not his first casino abuse type case) and hopefully do damage to their reputation that might just turn into a financial cost. BUT I CAN'T DO SO. So anything further that I could say would just be to make me feel better. And there is just no sense in that. The case is over. Time for me to move on. The trolls can do whatever the fuck they like.

 

There is something else very telling about these two, Singer and Mdawg. They both claim to have won millions (with an "s"), meaning multiple millions from casinos.

Mdawg with his now 4 year, 1000 night comped high end suite claims, accompanying his millions in winnings. Singer with many bizarre claims, including several different individual claims of winning millions.

And yet both spend all their time and energy attacking a midlevel player who make upper 5 figures a year. And the last 4 years or so, not even upper 5 figures, more like mid 5 figures.

That doesn't and shouldn't make sense to anyone. Anyone that is still reading this nonsense should, and probably has asked themselves, why would somebody punch down like that? Nobody does that.

And the answer should be clear to anybody that thinks about it: Because these guys claims are not real. If they were, they wouldn't give a shit about a mid-level player earning what I earn.

 

You criticized Rob for not teaching his family. Then you later said you didn't teach your family because it is an addictive behavior. When I pointed out your hypocrisy you changed your story to you DID teach your family.

You didn't teach me how to work free bets. You gave me your take on working free bets. I looked all around for information on working free bets. Here's what I found from Unabated. You know, those guys you say are just small time wannabe's that don't know anything:

https://unabated.com/articles/risk-free-bet-profit-strategy