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Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

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  1. MDawg

    MDawg Well-Known Member

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    As stated you’re just another jealous fuck who can’t stand the fact that MDawg is miles above you. The fact that you’ve gone out of your way to try to report MDawg to the authorities shows the extent of your seething envy. I mean, what solid well grounded person does that?

    But you know every time someone rises up in this world there's always gonna be some asshole trying to drag him down.

    Even UNKewlJ for all his rants as far as I know hasn’t crossed the line beyond posting whatever online. It seems that he thinks that I have outed him but in fact beyond referring to him under his own screen name or warning that others might pursue action against him I never have crossed that line either. I just like messing with him because it bothers him so much but I’ve never actually taken any steps to hurt his supposed blackjack career. I assume he has enough other enemies who will actually try to do something about the way they feel, but I couldn't be bothered nor do I have the time.

    Many have messaged me privately with information they have unearthed but still I’ve never done anything with such info other than maybe mention obliquely what I’ve been told online.

    Actually couldn't have said it much better than the way I already did, so
    - success is the best revenge anyway, so I just keep on, keeeepin' on, while MrV smokes another brain killing joint until he's compelled to try to pull The Great MDawg down again.
     
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  2. MDawg

    MDawg Well-Known Member

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    REDietz, why would you think that the numbers would even matter? Why would the story be any less compelling if I had won a million or lost a million?

    The fact that I won is merely the icing on the cake of the story.
     
  3. MrV

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    What a dipshit this douchedawg is, calling himself "Great."

    What's next?

    Will he refer to himself using the royal "We?"

    FWIW I was quite candid and open in posting the things I've done to date in order to try to expose this numbskull as being the boob he is.

    No "hidden agenda" here.

    Calling me "jealous" is simply silly as for me to be jealous I'd need to believe his claims, and I do not.

    Besides which, I'm financially well off, my expenses are fairly low, so why should I care if someone may or may not have more greenbacks than me?

    I'm not jealous about Elon, so why would I give a fuck about this poltroon?
     
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  4. redietz

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    You gotta be kidding me. People who do what you do are a dime a dozen in Las Vegas. To hijack a phrase from the poker series Tilt, what you do is about as rare as a boil on my ass.

    I mean, c'mon, anybody can squander and rap about it. You know the old saying, "All it takes to be a rich gambler is to start off as a richer gambler."

    What exactly do you think the story is? You do exactly what probability says you should do. And you take pictures and write about it.

    Losing with panache, and four bucks, will get you a coffee at Starbucks.

    And now, to add insult to injury, I had to look up poltroon. Thanks, V.
     
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  5. Boz

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    I’m proudly the guy who was concerned enough about casino profits to question why this guy is allowed to take them for hundreds of thousands trip after trip while being treated like Nero. And I still question it. Obviously IF what this guy claims was true.

    And I was intrigued this week when Wizard started fighting with Bluejay about casino profits. Wizard claimed to own casino stocks and stated he profits from their profits. So why isn’t the man concerned with a guy who if he wanted could break even publicly traded strip casinos with his methods? He claims to be able to “read the flow of the cards” along with other hidden abilities that put casinos profits at risk. We have reason to believe if he wasn’t “bored” with Vegas he could win a Million or more a week with his bankroll and abilities, correct? And we are to believe publicly traded Vegas casinos are fine with all this.

    And I considered pit bosses, hosts and others are in on it with MDawg allowing cheating for tips, but that doesn’t make sense. Then again a math expert who owns casino stocks being fine with all this doesn’t either so it’s left to random speculation.

    Could the Wizard and MDawg be in some kind of Cuck relationship with one of their partners? Certainly no proof but no crazier than MDawg claims of being up over $500,000 last year until he corrected himself. Has MDawg even addressed that? We know the answer to that, he comes back with more accusations against others to cover for him being exposed.

    Meanwhile it still comes back to question why this guy is so egotistical that he lies to try and get others to think he is someone to be jealous of. Other than the banned guy at WoV, he doesn’t have a defender or believer out here. And no, I don’t believe Coach or Singer believes him for a minute, it’s just them being them and using him for as a useful tool.

    So we are down to the Wizard allowing him to spew his lies at will. And for that answer no one knows, or those who do aren’t talking. Odds (pun intended) are sex or cash is involved. Maybe both, or maybe not.
     
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  6. MrV

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    The Mega Millions is up to $1.1B today.

    My question: who will claim he won it, douchedawg or Rob?
     
  7. redietz

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    I don't know what Shackleford was thinking by allowing the MDawg narratives or the Rube Goldberg rules at WoV. Think about it. There's no rule against lying, but there are rules against calling someone a liar. That's absurd on the face of it. Borderline comical, like some Monty Python skit. Shackleford's not a youngster, so one would think he'd have some respect for his own history and what he represented for years.

    I guess whatever he thinks he's gaining outweighs what he's lost. It's sad; seems like a cheap sell-out of himself.
     

  8. beachedwhale

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    Settle down Duney. Wipe the sand from your vagina and try coming up with a real retort instead of a lame effort like “fuck head”. I mean, that’s the response of someone going red in the face with anger if ever I’ve heard one.

    Guess what shit stain, I am a fuck head. And that’s why I’m going to spray your details everywhere I can be bothered. I’ll start with the Californian bar and go from there. Hey, I might even email every single attorney on their list. Wouldn’t that be fun for everyone? What do you think fuck nut? LOLZ
     
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  9. beachedwhale

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    Calling @KewlJ and anyone else who feels like contributing. Send me every detail and relevant post you have on @MDawg to [email protected] and let’s get this party started! LOLZ
     
  10. KewlJ

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    I will not be contributing.

    Last year I posted some details provided a name that had been given me as to who this Mdog person was along with some of his educational background. It has been suggested by Shackleford, no less, that this information may not have all been 100% correct. Shackleford is now a complicit in this whole Mdog scam, so anything he says is not credible to me. I still believe the information I posted was correct, but given even the slightest possibility, even a .1% chance it is not, I will not repeat it to someone filing a complaint. Even though I remain confident of the information, I wouldn't want to be responsible for the wrong person to get caught up in this. Others can provide this info, I just am not going to.

    Second is that even though, a number of trolls and haters, like Moses and Sid the squid have threatened to out me to casinos by sending pictures and information, and Mdawg not only threatened to do this, but I believe followed through (I will circle back to this), which has in fact temporarily damaged my career and cost me money, I am not real comfortable retaliating in that manner. Doing something to cause someone, anyone, huge financial setbacks and/or loss of income, is really a big deal and crosses lines I just am not comfortable crossing over forum fights.

    Now, circling back, the reason I believe Mdawg provided the same information that he posted on line to casinos and/or database companies is because literally days after he posted, that exact same info showed up in my database file. And here is the kicker, it included a small piece of information that was very inaccurate. That in itself serves as a "marker" as to where the information came from.

    When both the Singer and Mdawg situations began for me, my concern was that there would be players and members that could be harmed by these ridiculous phony claims, very similar to all the youtube scammer claims. Both have now been so thoroughly debunked that there really is no one left that believes their ridiculous "stories" and claims, and if there is someone that comes along reading these ridiculous claims, and all the people debunking them and decides to try to follow, well that is on them. There has to be some responsibility to figure out what is real and what isn't and if a person can't figure that out with all the info available on these cases, they pretty much deserve whatever they lose trying to emulate.

    I have more to say, I am going to break it here for now, but will continue shortly.
     
  11. KewlJ

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    cont....

    I think you guys are doing a very good and thorough job continuing to call out these BS claims and pointing out inconsistencies. The more people that do, the better. And several members at WoV have also begun calling out these inconsistencies again. It is difficult for them because Shackleford is protecting Mdog and these bogus claims. It is pretty hard to win a game where the referee is in the bag. :rolleyes: Darkoz in particular made some great points as to the inconsistencies, but then apparently Shackleford contacted him and forced him to offer an olive branch type peace treaty. Shackleford is just so ridiculous. When this is all said and done, and this all comes out, that he was complicit is this kind of scam will be his legacy. It will overshadow all the math and any good he has done. He will be remembered as a guy who participated in a scam.

    Now since Mdawg changes his story very frequently, especially when caught, as these guys always do, I want to remind of some facts that he tries to coverup or hide.

    1. Early on, a number of us, myself, Axelwolf, several others, repeatedly questioned Mdawg if there was some advantage, he was playing to that would account for the advantage and winning he claimed. I believe he responded "no" several times, but mostly didn't answer. He could have said yeah but I can't reveal it and that would have satisfied all the AP's and math people. It would still be pretty lousy to make the claims he has made and then say, "Yeah but I can't reveal how I am able to flap my arms and fly". But in the absence of that, he has just promoted the impossible for years now.

    The fact is there is nothing he could have come up with that would have satisfied all the claims of winning. Even playing to a small advantage doesn't result in winning nearly all sessions. That is not the way it works. A small advantage is a just that, a small advantage.

    2. I think some people have missed this but Axelwolf has actually laid some traps for Mdawg along the way and each time, Mdawg fell right in. Along the way Axelwolf has periodically thrown out some possible ways that a player such as Mdawg could gain a small advantage, at least for a while. One of those was rebates offered to higher end players. Another was more recently edge sorting. There were a couple others. And each time Mdawg basically, jumped saying, "yeah that is what I was doing".

    Fact is something like rebates would not provide a longterm advantage, and also would not account for the 90+ % session wins. Rebates actually work when the player loses. And edge sorting or any other advanced play like that, a player isn't going to be able to apply daily for years now, in the high limit rooms of all places where there are multiple sets of eyes on that player. It is just ridiculous to think top notch, high end strip casinos would allow this. And if by some chance he was doing something they couldn't figure out, they would cut him off until they did figure it out. Las Vegas just doesn't let a player do what this Mdawg person claims for 2 years now and really for 20 years before these current set of claims

    3. I want to remind everyone that in addition to WoV, this Mdog posted his claims daily on another forum, True Passages. True Passages is a forum for writers, writing "stories". And that is what this is right down to the "adventures of" title. No one should forget that.

    4. The claim of buying a "mansion" in Las Vegas. This claim was made last summer, June or July. "Mansion" was Mdawgs term. And this property has never been mentioned again and when I brought it up, in context to the discussion about all his comped suites over the last year, I was suspended. While this may seem like a small, somewhat unrelated detail, it is a microcosm of the whole bigger claim and scam. This guy gets caught in a lie and Shackleford helps him cover up and protects him. Let's not forget when Mdawg was forced to come clean about 7 months of claims of wins, totaling half million dollars and in one short sentence wiped all that away. Shackleford, inexplicably thanked him for his honesty. Seven months of daily lies.....one short sentence of the truth and "thank you for your honesty"? o_O

    My final point or statement is to Redeitz. I will not be accompanying you to anyone office, unless you and I have some sort of official business with that professional person. I have been asked not to waste time with these forum feuds and I respect that. This incident of these trolls/haters trying to damage a relationship of mine with someone, is just another attempt to hurt me, same as doxing me and providing information to casinos. These guys are the purest definition of internet trolls and bullies. This is what they do. They can't answer legitimate questions, so they attempt to deflect by harming and hopefully discrediting someone else.

    Newsflash to Singer, Mdawg and others. Even if you succeed in discrediting someone else, someone challenging your inconsistencies, that in no way enhances YOUR claims. Your claims and story are still full of holes and likely there will be someone else come along and say "yeah but that can't be and that is not the way it works". YOUR problem doesn't go way because you bully someone else.

    I know the haters will all jump up and down now, claiming I said I wouldn't post and how that makes me a liar. People deciding not to post or deciding to post, does not make one a liar or not. People can change their mind about something like that many time. That is just haters looking for something to hate on.
     
  12. KewlJ

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    I also will be asking Eliot Jacobson to revisit or weigh in on something said earlier in this whole process. Some of you may remember I said something to the effect that Casinos just wouldn't allow this for long, and Mr. Jacobson, shared an experience of him and several other gambling math experts being called in to evaluate a high end player that had won over several years' worth of trips. In the end Jacobson recommended allowing the player to continue to play and he would lose it all back, which he did.

    I forget exactly what that several years' worth of trips entailed....monthly trips for a weekend? Multiple times a year for a number of days? or just what? At the time, Mdawg took this out of context and claimed some sort of Victory, that casinos would allow a player to win without caring. COMPLETE NONSENSE!

    Well, Mdawgs play, almost daily now for 2 years surely is far more, probably by 10 fold that the total amount of play Eliot was asked to evaluate and recommend on. So I have asked Eliot to update his thoughts based on this. I suspect he may not want to have anything more to say, but I hope he shares his thought.
     
  13. MDawg

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    Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-ha!
    He didn’t even last a day!

    RobSinger on the UNKewl one: #1 with this guy is how you can almost SEE & FEEL the puny little twit jumping up and down, screaming like a toddler who just got his baba taken away by a big bad bully. Bonus #2? He posts long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again.

    Now, a show of hands of anyone idiotic enough to read through any of those long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs? I feel sorry for anyone who did more than barely skim the UNKewl tortured confessions of a soul desperate for an ear.

    Richard III is said to have offered his kingdom for a horse. UNKewlJ, I am sure, would be glad to give his god-damned soul for just a sympathetic listener.
    JackNicholson_BarShining.jpeg
     
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  14. KewlJ

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    Thank you for confirming that I scored a bullseye with these thoughts, Mdawg. :rolleyes: Deflect, Deflect. Deflect. When that is your response, I know I did well. :cool:

    By chance, anything you have to say in actual defense, or will you just continue to deflect and attempt to bully?
     
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  15. Ozzy

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    Nobody in history, has quit and came back as much as Kew. Impossible to keep track of such a large number. This is one of the many reasons why he will ALWAYS remain UNKOOL !
     
  16. MDawg

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  17. MrV

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    Hey Douche, if in fact you were a man of character you'd handle personal attacks with aplomb.

    As it is you come off as a petuleat school child.

    It really is a damned shame that KJ has decided to "play nice" and not assist in bringing you down.

    Oh well, if KJ doesn't care then why should anyone else?

    Go ahead, continue to spin lies like a whirling dervish, looks like you've now got impunity.
     
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  18. KewlJ

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    Copied from earlier post:

    Newsflash to Singer, Mdawg and others. Even if you succeed in discrediting someone else, someone challenging your inconsistencies, that in no way enhances YOUR claims. Your claims and story are still full of holes and likely there will be someone else come along and say "yeah but that can't be and that is not the way it works". YOUR problem doesn't go way because you bully someone else.

    Seriously Mdawg, for someone who claims to be such a smart person, how does posting quotes from others, in this case some of the biggest trolls of the gambling community, including Singer who may be the one person more discredited that you...how does that help you or enhance your claims or credibility?

    Attempting to discredit someone else does nothing to enhance your claims or answer any questions anyone may have. This tactic used by troll everywhere, really says "I have given up. I can't answer legitimate questions or fill the holes in my story, so....you mama wears army boots".
     
  19. MrV

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    damn, s/b "petulant" above.
     
  20. KewlJ

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    It is not that I don't care, MrV. I will always care about someone spinning bullshit. I don't think that is fair to people that come to that particular forum looking for legitimate answers, who are mislead. As a player who early in my career did just that, joined a blackjack forum, where over time, legitimate player did help me, answered questions, share their real experiences, which greatly benefited me, I am just appalled at a forum that allows this nonsense, especially a forum like WoV.

    A second consideration and it is minor compared to the first consideration that I just stated, is it isn't fair to any player, myself included that really works at playing with an advantage and winning from the casinos. Players that put the money down, take the risk, and fight though the variance (losing and swings that real players endure) all while fighting a daily battle with the casino industry to do so. So when some ying-yang comes along saying "I win, I win, I win" with no explanation or perhaps even worse only long disproven voodoo explanations it rubs me the wrong way.

    BUT, this case, just like the Singer situation, has already been settled. This war already been won. There is no one left believing these guys so there is no further reason to get too worked up over it. All they have left is to call people names.
     

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