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You lied about hitting 68% ATS in the NFL playing five games a week for two seasons. Flat out lied. No public handicapper has ever done it. But Rob Singer claims he did.

It's offensive because you were too stupid to know what you were claiming was absurd. Handicappers work and sweat and study and devote hours and lives to winning 55% of their games. But Rob Singer won 68% ATS, picking five NFL games per week, for two years. It's an offensive clown act.

No monitor has ever had anybody win 68% back to back years picking five NFL games per week. Not in "Tipsters or Gypsters?", The Sports Monitor, Handicappers' Report Card, the old AADSS competitions, nobody. Of all the thousands of handicappers in the SuperBook contest, the Circa contests, all of the Las Vegas competitions, nobody has done that. And the Las Vegas contests feature multiple entries per person. But good old Rob Singer says he did it, and it's on the LVA forum.

LOL. Comical.

 

Hey look before Rob resorted to threatening me with his final line, he is getting closer...very close to admitting that I know what I am talking about. For years he has claimed I have no idea what I am talking about, because he has (had) no clue. Now he has spung that around to I do know what I am talking about because I stole it from others.

And he is partially correct.

Look, a player learns the basic math of card counting which can be summed up in one sentence. More aces and ten value cards remaining to be played favors the player, while depleted aces, ten value cards, and subsequently more low cards remaining favors the dealer. That is the basic math of card counting plain and simple and a player can learn that from any one of a hundred books from the last 50 years. And that is almost the complete value of most of those books as most don't even get into more aggressive approaches needed to play today's games. A few do, like Norm Wattenbarger's, Modern Blackjack, and a few others, but most are only good for that initial single piece of information.

But where a player learns how to use that decades old single piece of information, adjusted for today's games, is by learning as he goes (trial and error) and networking with other players, so as to learn from their experiences as well as one's own experiences. I have been lucky enough to network with a good size number of successful players and have always stated that and acknowledged that. I guess Rob is just getting around to that realization.

Rob Singer, you used the word "plagiarism", which is a pretty serious lie and accusation. I challenge you to post examples of where I plagiarized someone, claiming it as my own information or "stuff".

BUT let's do this in order. First show many pictures of the Newell RV you claimed you owned at different locations throughout the U.S. That shouldn't be too hard. And then follow that up by proving this claim of plagiarism.

Neither can or will be done so I guess we should all get comfortable. Instead what is likely to be your next post will be some bigoted, homophobic attacks.

Clock is ticking Rob.

 

By the way, Rob, you may want to check some of the threads in this blackjack section, like Two man EMFH team, The rollercoaster that is blackjack card counting, Education of a young card counter and more recently, Chaotic Opposition betting.

These were all threads I started mostly back when I took this site more seriously, and the owner encouraged me to share my experiences. Once he allowed all the trolling, lies and personal attacks, I got away from that. But you will not find any of these topics discussed in books or even forums. These are all things I learned from my own experiences and networking with other players.

 

And you're only excoriating one of his many, many lies about his internet forum existence.

 

I won't say it ain't possible but seem to me would be exceedingly difficult, hey hey.

 

It's obvious whenever I hit a nerve on kew. His essays try so hard to steer others in his direction.

Without further delay, I point readers to the newest thread in this BJ section. How many people does it take before kew realizes NOBODY believes any of his baloney.

It's all been said ....

 

The UNKewlJ claims consist of reading something on the 'net, studying up on the topic, and then posting online to make it appear as if he knows something about the matter.

I want to make clear that none of the information I have verifies that the UNKewl one plays blackjack at any level that would even matter (if he plays much at all) or is successful at the game. The sole verification I have is that he does in fact live where he claims (from that post where he doxxed himself), however the property records actually do not corroborate that he owns the place where he lives, he might be one of the owners, he might not. He said something about how someone I know, verified that UNKewlJ plays? Who would that person be? I am not aware of any such person.

The one person I know who says knows UNKewlJ says that as far as knows, UNKewlJ was a low end video poker player, that's the only rep "UNKewlJ" has is as an unsuccessful video poker player.

Mostly, UNKewlJ is in a, as AccountInQuestion has put it: Neverending quest for street creds on the internet.

 

I just read that kew claims on VCT that you have verified he is who and what he says he is.

It was coach I think who challenged him to post the quote where MDawg said that.

What are the chances that this is yet ANOTHER of kew's lies that he uses in hopes that readers might see him for the fraudulent poster that he is---everywhere.

And kew claiming to own that hi-rise slum condo he's in right now? Hahahaha!! When his sugar daddy croaked of aids, the guy who owned the home the kew clan was allowed to squat in because kew traded his diseased ass for the 3 slugs, left him nothing. Where they are now is just another survival slot for these government -handout specialists.

 

[QUOTE="MDawg]Mostly, UNKewlJ is in a, as AccountInQuestion has put it: Neverending quest for street creds on the internet.[/QUOTE]

Gee, do you always project this much?

You're a bigger attention whore than Alan and Singer put together.

 

Gee, do you always project this much?

You're a bigger attention whore than Alan and Singer put together.[/QUOTE]

I'm not so sure you know what you're saying. Alan's nothing close to an attention whore. He's always been in the news/reporting business. So it's normal for him to bring up sometimes controversial issues and see what the reactions are.

I'm even more removed from that type of accusation. I've posted about several of my widely despised but unique accomplishments over the years, which obviously rattle the little people no end. But most of my forum time is spent irritating and agitating the phonies of the gambling world, since THEY are the ones in such desperate need of attention and the all-important relevance. And I make absolutely sure they get it.

You're on the cusp of your own accusation V. On VCT I see you arguing with the most insignificant of posters, telling them things like your family and son and financials etc. put you above them. But to me, inasmuch as you're nothing beyond just another anonymous poster who has carte blanche to proclaim anything you choose, there is not much evidence--if any at all--to support anything you say.

And THAT is the definition of an "attention whore".

 

The fact is Rob that no one that is as successful as this sand monkey claims to be (law practice, mansion in LV, million dollar credit lines,etc) is going to run around in multiple internet forums trying to impress a bunch of broke, degenerate slobs and slugs like the ones on these sites he frequents. These forums would be so far off a person like that's radar, it`s not even funny

That says it all in a nutshell

 

This guy is great isn't he? ....in a hall of Fame trolling kind of way. I am not surprised people like Ozzy that thrive on that are so enamored with him.

Ron, (<- ) in defining "attention whore", what would you call a guy that strolled into his local RV dealership pretending to be a customer and then took and posted pictures pretending that RV was his? Attention whore? the Gm at the dealership is looking for a word, because all he could say was "who does that kind of thing".

Ron, what do you call a person that bought fake money from amazon to put into his safe to post a picture of, trying to impress everyone? Attention whore?

Ron, What do you call a guy who posts a picture of a 1.5 million dollar jackpot from the computer in his basement (next to the old discarded exercise equipment), pretending it is a real hit in a casino? Attention whore?

Ron, what do you call a guy who stole a story and claim from the news, saying I did that before they did, with no proof what-so-ever? Attention whore?


Now, Ron claims he is only trying to "irritate" certain members with his nonsense. To some extent that is true. Ron and others like Mdog go after players and members, legit players that dare challenge their claims as defying the math and the way the casinos industry works. It isn't really about the other players/members claims, it is simply a relentless attempt to discredit these different people, myself included, in the bizarre hopes that this somehow makes there own claims more believable.

It is strange twilight zone stuff. But if anyone should know what an attention whore is, it is this Ron Springer person. He is the biggest there ever was. Mdog is making a run, but he doesn't have the longevity yet, at least under his current handle. Add up his previous handles and maybe.

 

This is like discussions with a liberal. Fake money again? Prove that lie. My "basement"? Neither of our homes have basements. Fake jackpot? Aren't you lucky Dan bagged out of meeting me at the LV casino where I hit it so you could continue that lie.

Kew, don't be sad. It isn't unusual for people with meaningless, perverted lives who have never contributed a thing to society, to have to lie about other's successes so they feel better about their failed life.

Now let's hear more about the surviving moochers, aka, the kew clan. We know baby bro's also a degenerate gambler and queer. I expect mommy gives twin hand jobs??

Are you "quitting the forums" again? You might want to after this

 

Sure Rob, I seek some attention in that I hope my posts are read, why wouldn't I?

But you and Alan continuously post shit to stir the pot, much more than I do (I am but a poor sous chef in comparison to you to Iron Chefs).

One question: are you really as misanthropic as your posts make it seem, or is that just your shtick?

 

Posts and non-posts are both human communication. When someone tallies up 5000 posts over decades one place and 5000 posts another place over years and the content and tone are all the same, that's as legitimate a history of communication as anything that goes on outside the online world.

People presume that their online anonymity creates some sort of Jekyl/Hyde barrier by which they should not be judged in "the real world." But when you're looking at, literally, tens of thousands of posts, how do you label that kind of consistent communication? He's play-acting? He's on drugs when he's online? He's schizophrenic?

Look, if someone is posting the same stuff tens of thousands of times, it's not an act. He has to be thinking about his commentary with that kind of tone during the times he's not online.

The "act" is actually when he's not online. It's like judging a pedophile priest who talks dirty to kids just a few hours a week in the privacy of his chambers. Is he just play acting because it's not "in the real world?" Is he not to be judged by that? What if he does it only over the phone? Is that not the real world?

 

I wanted to take a moment to congratulate Rob for getting to 50% ATS on games for the season. He's 47% in units, but let's dwell on the positive. If he wins his next seven in a row, he'll almost be on schedule for his goal of 68%. Not quite, but close.

Go get 'em, Rob. Oh, and sorry about that parlay. You should probably play more parlays. Life's more fun with parlays.

 

No, that is the definition of modern life with online forums.

We don't live in small villages where everyone knows everyone else in the small community; you'd have first hand knowledge of my claims then, i.e. the "proof" you seem to value.

Today however the world is one bit impersonal village connected by electrons.

I could post pics of my family, copies of my bank and investment statements, pics of my real properties but given the fact that the world is now a dangerous place with many men of ill will I will never do so.

Whether you believe me or not, or whether you believe KJ's claims or not, we continue to make them as we deem it appropriate to do so.

I posted the points you refer to in response to a personal attack by zenking, to refute and compare our respective lots in life; I didn't do it for attention, to have people notice me, because the fact is I feel little but indifference toward most people, and only contempt for those who challenge me.

 

Ploppy Pothead hasn't been able to get through a day in his adult life without taking some sort of drug, which alcohol, weed and tobacco are all drugs too.

Definite sign of a well balanced being.

 

Yes, I've been a stoner since I was fifteen, so what?

I gave up alcohol and tobacco about twenty-five or so years ago and took up gambling instead: good trade: costs less and it's more fun.

FWIW I periodically go on the weed wagon and refrain from blazing, not for health reasons but to prove the strength of my will power to myself.

At least I went to a real law school, had a real career, and live a real life.

 

And you think you show any signs of being a well balanced being? You attack and "go to war" with every person that expresses any doubt about your claims. You have lied about me, repeated lies from others and doxed me, trying to cause financial harm to a professional player just because I doubt your claims. And this from a guy who is supposed to be an officer of the court and be held to a higher standard than the trolling that you exhibit daily.