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Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

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  1. Blackhole

    Blackhole Active Member

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    How about blackhole or MrV, unless they died too?

    I'm still alive Rob. In fact Sloan Kettering Cancer Center has me free of cancer now going on 2 years. Outcomes like this are not unusual when you're treated by the best cancer doctors in the world.

    I still glance at these forums for fun. Sadly it's still the same exact bunch of a few morons making the same arguments. I noticed your comment that a few of the oldies disappeared. That's because it was fun for awhile but eventually you come too realize how much of a fool you are for talking to endless losers. I was no better since I participated for years.

    Kiwlj (forgot how to spell his stupid name) is still trying to convince anyone that will listen how successful he is. A clear sign of "NOT". Redeitz still doing the same shit Kiwlj is.

    How much of this sad shit can anyone take?
     
  2. MrV

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    While I like to "fly high" like Sky Pilot, I don't relish the crashing part.

    I've taken an extended break from posting previously, no particular reason other than a need to "recharge" my mental batteries.

    But I expect my recent hiatus will soon come to a close: there is simply too much injustice in this world for me to idly sit by, contemplating my navel, while the world writhes, burns, and disintegrates while I bask in a THC-induced fog, listening to Bob Moses on my stereo.

    see:

    On second thought, maybe I'll just turn it up and groove even deeper.

    Decisions, decisions.
     
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  3. RobSinger

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    Kew, here's where life hasn't been kind to you: you place FAR too much importance on what people say and say they do in online forums than what they do and say in real life. That's why almost everyone is anonymous.

    For maybe the 500th time, I am as others have always said I am in real life--normal. I have and have always had black friends, gay friends, and I am always as happy as a lark because people who know me respect me as a person, I've been very successful in life, and most of all, I've been blessed with a wonderful family and wife of over 44 years. Now tell me: my wife is a retired, educated aerospace engineer. She's successful in her own right, and she has nearly the same healthy-valued retirement savings account I have. She is intelligent, has a strong will, and she knows what's what. Would such a person still be with the "angry, homophobic, racist, bitter old man" that you label me as, after so many years?

    My online performance is for people who like chaotic battles, arguments that go nowhere, creative insulting sessions, and is an extension of the pen-named author I created for the purpose of doing years and now decades of fighting with people I believed were disingenuous in the VP industry. I took it to every type of media throughout my journey right out of the gate in 2000, and the battles raged. Along the way I added an unexpected feather to my cap (and to the bane of those already seriously displeased with me) by discovering and playing the DU bug very profitably. BTW I only know of that one Wired article. If others are out there I'm sure mickey 's seen them all. The fact remains: no one knows more about the operational aspect and play sequence than me. I don't count Kane and Nestor because they're total greed-driven imbeciles.

    My forum statement that weak people disgust me is well documented. I pounce on them for entertainment. Do you know that, until I was in 11th grade, I was called "fairy boy" and was regularly picked on and occasionally slapped around by bullies? But by 10th grade I woke up. I began working out and learning how to fight, and I realized I had higher intelligence than everyone who had problems with me. The day grade 11 started the bullying re-started after a summer away. This time I beat my main nemesis to a pulp. That ended the bullying period.

    This online stuff confuses me. I'm a face-to-face guy. Gadgets and social media will be the destruction of society. You can already see it. And look at yourself--how it's made mashed potatoes out of you. You're hardly alone.

    Until you see what's really going on you will continue on with your stupid online forum fights, arguments, lies, hate and #1 goal of trying to find fault with everyone who sees or does things even slightly different than you. You're nothing more than a product of social media, content to live your life, real and fake, on forums. To me, it's a weak way of living, and to society, it is the beginning of the end
     
  4. KewlJ

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    Rob, I think this post has some elements of honesty that you have never shared before. I commend you for that, but at the same time, there are a couple things said that are disturbing and should be of concern to you.

    1.) You just said that you created an online persona that is completely different than who you really are. Just stop for a minute and think about that. That has to be some kind of split or multiple personality thing. And it wasn't just a very temporary thing. You have done this for 20+ years. Pretending to be someone very different than who you are. And that before we even get into any of your gambling claims.

    2.) You say you were bullied. That is no surprise to anyone I suspect. People who bully as an adult were bullied as a child, much the same as the cycle of sexual abuse. And make no mistake about it, what you are doing....have done for years with this online alternative personality is bullying.

    Rob, I am not saying these things as any kind of troll of you or anything. I genuinely ask you to take a step back and read what you just wrote. Better yet, ask your daughter, or son in law or wife to read this post that you just wrote along with some of your other bullying posts. If you can't or won't see it, I'll bet they can.


    I seriously don't know what to say to a guy who just admitted what you just admitted. I suspect you don't even realize what you just admitted. And yes, this alternative or multiple personality that you have created and lived on these forums for 20 years is most definitely a sign that something isn't right in your life. There is very definitely something going on that you are unhappy or dis-satisfied about that would cause you to do this and carry it through 20 years. That just isn't normal Rob. It isn't healthy.

    I honestly hope you can find some level of happiness and no longer have the need to do what you have done for 20 years with this alternative, make believe personalities.
     
  5. KewlJ

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    One of my first thoughts was to re-post your post above at VCT, maybe even WoV. But I am not going to do that. I don't see this a reason to try to harm you or troll you.

    I think you are a smart guy Rob, and I think if you just take a step back, you can see how crazy this is. But if not, and you truly see nothing wrong, I again ask, that you share this post and some of your others with a family member or two.
     
  6. RobSinger

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    Kew, there's some blur in what you said. I was bullied in-person. If you consider my treatment of you as bullying, it's online, which to me is social media and is a big fat waste of serious time unless you have lots of spare time as I do. In face-to-face meets, you'd never see me be nor have I ever been disrespectful to anybody. Reason? Because that's simply my nature. As an average Joe, I wouldn't be where I am today had I been anything different. And believe me, where I am today is very very comfortable and very happy and thankful.

    There's none of this "multiple personalities" or whatever it's called. Everything I do is strategic, regardless of how or where. My background taught me to control the narrative or else I'd be killed. You'll never understand this, but everything you and the world sees about me online, good or bad/true or false, is exactly the way I want to be researched as, and for very good reason which I cannot discuss. But it sure does make for GREAT arguing and tremendous insults.

    When I put my plan in place to become Rob Singer, I knew exactly what I was doing, and why. My goal wasn't to be liked; it was to be open, bold, unafraid, and vicious when I needed to be. Chuck DiRocca at Gaming Today appreciated every single bit of my nastiness. Thus, my long-time extremely popular column. Along the way I found two very intelligent people, albeit in vastly different ways, to have extraordinarily bitter battles with for long periods of time (arci & mickey). But it was all online, which was to me not truly real. If I had ever been able to meet up with arci there would have been mutual respect and lots to talk about because of our aerospace careers. His wife dying rather young and his only child (son) overdosing a few years later was truly a tragedy. And mickey--he and I both knew what we were doing for years. It was fun for us both. Now I wish he were my neighbor, because as you all can easily see, he is the most natural knowledgeable self-taught guy in our gaming world. He calls it precisely as he sees it, regardless of the impending hate and criticism.

    Now for this week's Singer Five, which is, by the way, really happening. Record to date: 37-16-2.

    Minn -2.5 over NE
    TB -3.5 over Cleve
    Sea -3.5 over LV
    Tenn +1.5 over Cin
    Ind -2.5 over Pit
     
  7. redietz

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    Rob, I do not think that simple common sense would suggest that a standing spotter is more subtle than counting two tables while seated. Simple common sense would suggest the opposite.

    LOL. And this refers also to me. When people resort to the phrase "simple common sense" as their argument, they have no argument. They're just guessing.
     

  8. MrV

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    Good luck with that, KJ.

    Seems to me that people tend to have both a private and a public persona: at least I do.

    Privately in my daily life I am easy-going and polite, albeit a bit cynical and acerbic at times.

    On these forums I tend to let my "wild side" run free, to release my emotions otherwise held in check by the dictates of polite society.

    Rob may well be a man who behaves normally at home and around others; heck, he's said before to the effect that he likes to poke and irritate via trolling as his adopted shtick.

    The big difference between the two of you, at least as I see it, is that you try to take things seriously.

    In contrast, Rob is in it now primarily for shits and giggles.
     
  9. RobSinger

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    It's a "simple" subject with a "simple" resolution red. AKA--"simple common sense".
     
  10. KewlJ

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    You are correct MrV. I knew Rob's gambling claims were not real. Same with Mdawg. I knew the late Kevin Keen (moses and Tater) was exaggerating his claims. I guess I just didn't realize to what extent everything was make-believe on these forums.

    So Rob is a nice guy, with black and gay friends. What else should I know? Is Dan Druff not really a poker player? MickeyCrimm not a machine AP? Likewise Axelwolf not an AP? Redietz hasn't made a living betting and picking sports? What about Wizard...any of his back story real?

    I guess I am the fool.
     
  11. RobSinger

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    V, save all of your psycho analysis for the strange people on VCT.

    Kew takes things "seriously" here because THIS is where he leads his life. His generation, without social media, is nothing but mush while wearing flowered pajamas. My generation took it all outside of four walls straight to the source, and without fear. None of this anonymity or other sour pusses "coming to the rescue".

    My purpose on forums is to irritate the hell out of the little people with my accomplishments and the truth, because I know what losers most of them are in order to be involved in this silly, basically meaningless stuff. I am, in fact, much more superior than those whom I fence with. But I'm not the perfect troll. The only mistake I've ever made was not checking the stupid internet prior to taking pics of the inside of an RV that was almost exactly like mine. Big whoop.

    Staying on track---if you like money you should be following my FREE picks. In fact, if you still enjoy instigating trouble, go ahead and post my NFL ATS Singer Five record in that Singer 68% sports betting thread on VCT. According to our resident expert redietz, I'm on the cusp of accomplishing something he says has never publicly been done before. I can't verify that I've done it before, but I can in the present.
     
  12. RobSinger

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    I'm not following. My gambling experiences are truly 100% real whether people want them to be real or not, and whether attained thru luck or via "cheating". I've never been about putting up stuff that irritates others if it didn't happen. I made GT experience their best days when I talked each week about the big jackpots I was hitting, which all had to be verified before my articles were published.

    This stuff about fake this and fake that....it doesn't change a thing about history. And it never will.
     
  13. KewlJ

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    Rob, are you reading any of this that you are writing? You say I am screwed up because my generation lives on social media. I am not on facebook. I am not on twitter. I did create a twitter account, just to follow mickeycrimm's updates for a couple weeks after his heart attack. Have never posted or tweeted a single thing and haven't logged on since mickey's heart attack.

    I post on forums sharing my experiences making a living as a blackjack player. I wasn't aware there was all this trolling and hate shit going on and I have paid a price for that with a robbery 11 years ago outside my home and not one but two people from these forums taking there trolling shit off forum to find me. And it has cost me money as far as my career.

    I guess my mistake was these forums like VCT and here. These are not real forums, populated by real people sharing real experiences, (although I do still believe some like mickey are real). I should have never got involved with these trolls, haters type forums.

    I have lied about one single thing on these forums related to my experiences playing blackjack for a living. I faked my death after being robbed 11 years ago. I panicked after being robbed and knowing it was related to forum activity. I take responsibility for being a little naive and surely posting too much info. I also took responsibility by continuing to use the same handle. I didn't run a way and come back with a new handle. I owned my mistake and have continued to share my experiences.

    Now Rob, explain this to me. You said my generation lives on social media. As I said, I have zero social media accounts. All I do is post on forums sharing my experiences. YOU sir, have been on these forums for 22 years? Is it longer that that. And you now admit, mostly trolling. And most of the guys on these forums are YOUR generation. Guys in their 60's, 70's even older. And now I learn everything about most is made up. So tell me again, who's generation is it all fucked up on social media and forums?

    But I do now clearly see the solution.
     
  14. redietz

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    For better or worse, when you handicap sports for a living and are monitored and have clients, you can't just make stuff up. As far as my handicapping goes, my "becoming a professional" was in part fueled by a public column in a small weekly paper where I killed college football. That led to being monitored by "Tipsters or Gypsters?" and Handicappers' Report card and The Buffalo Satellite Handicap and various other neutral observers. Plus much of what I did was in print in the Playbook newsletter, which was sold nationally on newsstands for decades.

    I've had op eds published in various newspapers, even The Humanist vetted me and published an essay, and I presented a paper in person at The National Conference on Gambling and Risk-Taking.

    I've always been gob smacked by the internet bullshitting that takes place. The internet allows people to stay juvenile forever.
     

  15. Punkcity

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    Lol didn’t last a day, kewlj never replying to Rob, Tater would be laughing his arse off.
     
  16. RobSinger

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    Internet forums ARE social media kew, just as much as FB, Twitter and the other platforms are. Social interaction is social interaction. I've done it since being RS, as a brand to support my media appearances, my writings, my books, and my time as a vp consultant who taught players what I discovered was a better, more enjoyable way to play the game. I had a good, full private life before I got into this stuff, and it remains in addition to my far less important online personna. You do it as a way of life, as do so many others of your generation. That, to me, is sad, and it's progress moving backwards.

    I'm also perplexed at your claim of being an information-sharer on forums. By far, your presence on these sites is overwhelmingly as a person who can't get along with others because you always fight rather than admit you're wrong or because you're incapable of compromise. And that always leads to lying, regardless of the personality.
     
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  17. KewlJ

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    Instead of being so quick to troll, maybe you should read what I actually wrote. I said I wouldn't continue to interact with Rob if he continued his hate rhetoric.

    And he didn't. Instead he admitted that isn't who he really is, instead claiming he is a nice guy who has both gay and black friends. I have no idea if that is true but at least he turned down the hate for one day and spoke honestly.
     
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  18. RobSinger

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    OK, now that we're understanding me better, one question to anyone who'd like to respond:

    The thread in the sports betting section on VCT that talks Singer, 68%, lies etc. It seems to me that you would want accurate information in there so as not to mislead anyone. No I can't prove I've hit 68% in the past. But I AM proving I'm hitting in after 11 NFL weeks now. I may or may not finish the season at 68% or better, but with Dan's record which is almost exactly the same as mine--and with him acting like I'm no expert sports bettor like he portends to be--who wants to present him with the bad news? Anyone??
     
  19. redietz

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    I'm sure he's aware. If not, when the season's done, I'll report everything.

    Eleven weeks is a long way from 18 weeks. A long, long way from 18 weeks for both of you. Not for me. My "100 Days' War" is just about finished. I bet very little on bowls these days, what with everyone sitting out at the last minute, so 90% of my wagering is in the books.

    But this competing in these NFL contests is a grind. When you're near the lead, pretty much anything that happens is more likely to hurt than help.

    I don't see Dan acting like an expert, but then again I don't read much of his posting regarding NBA or college football or anything. He's using certain priorities that, in general, serve well in the NBA because the NBA is almost an 82-game exhibition season. They are working real well in the NFL this year also -- and again, if you look at the NFL as one long season of performance art and managing contracts as opposed to competing, what he's doing makes sense.
     
  20. RobSinger

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    I'm aware anything can happen in this gig over 7 weeks. But if I were a betting man, I'd bet on me.
     

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