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Craps The " EXPOSE' " on Little Joe / Dr. Z / AND ALL Off Axis Tosses !

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by $nakeEye$, Apr 10, 2015.

  1. Harley

    Harley Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Sn-Sn-SnakeEyes - C-C-Can you provide proof that I emailed you any info as you stated above ??!!

    LoL ... so who is the drunk Liar here ??!!

    ... Demango is right

    Link to SnakeEyes post about no email being shared with Harley - See post #30:

    http://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...erated-uncensored-forums.792/page-2#post-3008
     
  2. Harley

    Harley Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Since this thread and information posted herein involves disclosure of proprietary information in strict violation of certain clauses of the NDA, I felt obligated to contact the LittleJoe owners. LITTLEJOECRAPS.COM
    of CRAPS,LLP is aware of this thread and consider it to be a legal matter.

    This is part of the response I received from LittleJoe administrators:

    " ... I'm sure he got his information from Howard aka: "The Bunter"; as we also have been informed that THE BUNTER also has taught a few DIs the LJ shot in his hotel room in Tunica, MS earlier this year, all the while claiming he is an 'honest and honorable man'! We are well aware of SnakeEyes affiliation and loyalty to THE
    BUNTER, and who we can really trust. SnakeEyes does not deserve a direct response from CRAPS, LLP!
    By the way, THE BUNTER does not possess or teach any shot to teach that he has not learned from
    some one else; he insults and does a disservice to those originators by changing the shots names and
    claiming those as his own, let alone violating his LJ NDAgreement. He is only fooling himself if he
    believes all of us can be fooled all of the time."
    Posted with permission

     
  3. Pressit

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    When this topic was first posted, "Craps The " EXPOSE" on Little Joe / Dr. Z / AND ALL Off Axis Tosses !", I immediately thought someone is trying get a LJ player to spill the beans on the LJ toss, but I knew that wasn't going to happen. My 2 simple mined reasons for saying that are as follows: 1. Signing the non-disclosure, even if legally it means squat, you are saying with your signature, I won't reveal to others what I learned. You can also call that "trust", or a mans word is his bond sort of thing. The other factor, Bob and Joe are 2 straight up good guys, they are liked by many, so why would SR and Harley want to screw them over? Well they wouldn't. It make zero sense to think otherwise, there is nothing for them to gain but a lot to lose.
     
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  4. $nakeEye$

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    Harley and SuperRick -

    I am truly sorry to see that your keyboards are not acting properly -

    Apparently, in addition to SR's having difficulty spelling - BOTH of your keyboards are ' sticking ' -

    Certain phrases / words just continually repeat in a non-sensical manner -

    Kind of reminiscent of each of your posts -

    Perhaps new equipment can be purchased over this Holiday weekend when numerous sales are being conducted -

    Harley - too bad YOUR keyboard just recently began to act-up -

    As I am sure had your biker-dude room-mate been aware HE would have gotten you a new one for " Mother's Day " -

    Biker-dudes DO take care of their " Motor Cycle Mama's " -

    Getting back ON TOPIC -

    I am going back East for a few and while there will make a video on my buddy's 12' craps table -

    As recent posts complain of the fact that there is NO video demonstrating CERTAIN OFF-AXIS tosses -

    And Harley demands that ON-AXIS videos be posted -

    I do believe that I have to a most viable solution which can " KILL TWO or MORE Birds - with the same stone " -

    I will post a video demonstrating the OFF-AXIS TOSSES which are germane to the topic of this post -

    In ADDITION to ON-AXIS tosses using the same or similar grip techniques -

    Among them the 3 Finger Front / the Ice Tong and the Diagonal / On the Points grip / toss -

    I will endeavor to make EVERY effort to have this posted after the Holiday weekend -

    Which will allow ample time to have people rush to make ' last minute ' arrangements to attend the 6/13 AC LJ event ! -

    But - THEN - with the video posted for ALL to see -

    WHY would THEY want to attend ?

    Wish me a safe trip , guys -

    And - AGAIN - THANK YOU, BOTH for the ' info ' !

    $...eE..$
     
  5. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    <<<<<The premise behind the " On-Axis " toss is well known and documented -

    By Golden Touch, PARR, and ALL others who took the PARR concept and tweaked it to their individual liking ->>>>>>>>SNAKEEYES

    ok, logically then, if something this groundbreaking and useful has been "documented" by others....then how is it those multibillion dollar casinos who employ the best of the best in the industry has not taken note and put in remedies to protect their assets?

    Are you telling me that not one major casino has felt that this deserves their attention? All a casino has to do is invoke a rule"no dice setting". They already have rules in not changing dice in your hands, and the height of a throw, and hitting back wall rules. Theyy could easily add a "no setting" rule if they felt they gave up even the slightest advantage to potential axis throwers.

    If just one casinos put in "no setting" provisions....many others would follow suit.

    just like "charting"....casinos encourage your to walk up to the table and set the dice any way you want before throwing as long as you dont hold up the game.

    Imagine devoting thousands of hours of practice over years and years, and then hearing that tomorrow the casinos dont allow "setting".
    It could happen....especially if these DI folks keep blowing their own horns insisting publicly that its a doable skill. Screaming from the rooftops that it works.

    WHY DO THEY INSIST ON DRAWING ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES,,,,,instead of just quietly making their money day after day.

    sssshhhhhhhh..THE CASINOS MIGHT HEAR.
     
  6. superrick

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  7. superrick

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    The truth of the matter is that someone say that we gave anybody information about anything is nothing but a lie! To start with we do not work for the Little Joe school. I do not teach anything for money, posters like this snake has stopped me from helping anybody.

    Howard Rock n Roller would take his students to Harley's house to teach them there, and would have Harley teach his students about the bad dice we were seeing here in Vegas. When there was a break from the Little Joe Class from Howard, because they found out he was teaching their shot on the side, you had him hooking up with his new Friend the snakeyes. Who is now saying that he is going to post a video of their shot so the whole world can see it, something that they have never made a video of, unlike the on axis DI schools have done in the past trying to sell their classes!

    If you want a opinion on what is going on, it's just someone trying to get back at others for not allowing them to teach with their school.

    Now days I have to know you for years before your going to get any information out of me, on helping you out with your shooting. This guy snakeyes has broken every rule of about posting on boards there is,... they gave everybody Harley's real name, yes the guy is named snake for a reason. To think that I defended this guy when others were attacking him goes to show you that you really need to know someone before you defend anybody.
     

  8. DeMango

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    LarryS; As per your question, post #25. The answer may be quite simple. This DI thing is in the realm of gamblers and not of AP's. Gamblers gamble, they bet, even a little, on almost everybody. I see this ALL the time at the tables with folks who attempt a controlled toss. They also, 9 times out of 10, use positive progressions, the Wall Street equivalent of buying high and selling low. They play at tables with no idea of the table physics which change from table to table especially their practice table. They play at times with too many others at the table. There are more reasons, though minor. Add them all up and you can see where Las Vegas does not fear them. To quote your favorite author, John Patrick, they are all "Dorks!"
     
  9. $nakeEye$

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    WITHOUT further ado regards this AND ALL posts by the " DYNAMIC DUO " -

    " Opinions are like ass-holes - Every person has one - And MOST of them STINK " ! -


    Let us NOT forget - WHAT / WHO brought ALL this " DRAMA " to the surface initially -

    It was NONE OTHER than MR. INNOCENCE - Himself - " Harley Horn " -

    WHO - UNILATERALLY - brought MY name into HIS personal fray with Heavy, MP and OTHERS -

    " HH " thought HE was ' cute ' in trying to insert a wedge between me and others -

    Well - Like I told MR. Horn quite a while ago -

    " YOU f*cked with the WRONG PERSON " -

    I Have NO qualms about letting this post die right here and NOW -

    Yet - OTOH -

    I have NO qualms about bringing this post to the video conclusion that I promised would / will occur sometime next week -

    Honestly , it is immaterial to me - which way this post ends - ONE way or the OTHER -

    Harley -

    IF I WERE YOU - I - would consult the recipient of YOUR email message to seek proper guidance as to how exactly we proceed on this matter -

    THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT !

    $...eE..$
     
  10. $nakeEye$

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    As a " Professional Courtesy " to the owners of certain mentioned tosses / throws -

    I have requested that the ADMIN of this forum " LOCK " this thread -

    As it would be of NO benefit to ANY party to disclose proprietary information .

    $...eE..$
     
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  11. $nakeEye$

    $nakeEye$ Active Member Founding Member

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    De Mango -

    It's a COMIN' -

    REAL FRIGGIN' SOON !!!!!!!!!!! ;)

    $...eE..$
     
  12. $nakeEye$

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    AND VERY SOON - the premise behind the " OFF-AXIS " toss(es) will be revealed ! :eek:

    This is ALL - Compliments of the " Avenger " ! ;)

    $...eE..$
     
  13. DeMango

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    Well Snake, so nice of you to think of me, and thanks to this notice on my email, I am once again dragged onto this board. Where was I?

    Oh, still waiting.
     
  14. $nakeEye$

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    Let there be NO assumption(s) made that solely because I have NOT responded in a " timely manner " to this thread -

    That the ' expose ' will NOT be forthcoming !

    Mark MY words regards this !

    A while back - BigBen and I purchased the same camera that Aaron Hightower used to produce his videos -

    I.E. the Casio EX-ZR1000 -

    Let there be NO doubt about THIS -

    SuperRick - aka - " the Avenger " -

    AND Hardly Horny -

    Although they took ( what THEY thought ) were countermeasures to thwart their identification -

    Failed to do so ! -

    A classic example of " Amateurs performing amateur tasks " !

    SuperRick neglected to realize that the number 3 identification qualifier is " VOICE RECOGNITION " -

    Number 1 is facial recognition, then number 2 is finger print identification !

    Number 4 which will soon become #1 is DNA identification ! -

    RickyDicky attempts to allude to the fact that his incompetent shooting should be attributed to Hardly Horny -

    Whom RickyDickHead places on a pedestal higher than Caesar is mounted -

    When in fact - Harley should be shoveling out the stables after Caesar's horses have put their feed bag on !

    IT NEVER ceases to amaze ME as to WHY/ HOW ONE - not so intelligent person - SuperRick - can criticize PUBLISHED AUTHORS -

    I.E. - Frank Scoblete and " the Mad Professor " aka " Tino Gambino !

    REGARDLESS of the " supposed facts " that He ( SR ) professes to make public !

    THE FACT is simply thus relative to the videos uploaded on YouTube by AHigh :

    1: SuperRick IS the " Avenger "
    2: SuperRick can NOT shoot for SHIT - unless you are wagering AGAINST HIM -
    3: Harley can NOT keep the dice on the table AFTER he takes 30 seconds to set the dice !
    4: The ONLY " shooter " out the entire video presentations was the fellow named " Nick " - who had a unique ice-tong toss !

    Ricky and Hardley -

    " I " am TOTALLY disgruntled with the BOTH of YOU Shits -

    As a consequence - YOU WILL pay " THE PRICE " of pissing off $nakeEye$ -

    AND the " EXPOSE' " WILL BE produced -

    BOTH in writing AND in video ! :p

    " CIAO " a$$holes ! :D

    $...eE..$
     
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  15. $nakeEye$

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    AND - HOW WRONG THOU ART !

    I have stated the gist of the tosses AND IF Anyone doubts what I say -

    Pay the $895.- AND - THEN complain that I was RIGHT !

    $...eE..$
     
  16. DeMango

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    I'm getting my popcorn, this should be good!
     
  17. IDPA

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    You mean there's more to this crummy (and kind of boring) soap opera?

    idpa
     
  18. Pressit

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    Taking bets who will post first. Dave's "Skipping Stones" toss, or $nakeEye$' "Expose"? I say neither will ever see the light of day, so enjoy your free popcorn as the show has been canceled.
     
  19. DeMango

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    You are probably right, it has been 4 1/2 months. Where's the beef?
     
  20. $nakeEye$

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    If I were YOU - I would NOT put any $ on your above statement ! -

    Furthermore, be extremely careful for what you wish for ! -

    As Harley stated a few posts above this -

    Little Joe Craps, LLC et al is totally disinterested in MY behavior , also they have NO recourse to MY actions ! :eek: -

    Suffice it to say, what I do from this moment forward regards this topic -

    Is a personal " THANK YOU " to Ricky Dicky ( Super Rick aka the Avenger ) and Hardly Horny -

    For THEIR continued contributions to the biased dice theorem and the dice are off-axis theorem ! -

    All 3 video cameras are ready to record - only waiting for another tripod to accurately record all tosses / grips / dice sets from ALL angles ! :)

    Thank YOU, Aaron for your insight as how to properly record the dice throws ! -

    IF the ON-AXIS dice grips and dice sets are published openly for ALL to see -

    WHY NOT do the same for the OFF-AXIS grips and sets ?????? :p

    I will accomplish what Little Joe and Co. could / would NOT do ! ;)

    And YOU can take THAT to the bank ! o_O

    $...eE..$
     
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