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Misc The VCT Thread!

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by Karen Nathan, Sep 23, 2019.

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  1. MDawg

    MDawg Well-Known Member

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    The REALITY is that the UNKewl one is stressing over that somehow his identity has gotten out there (WHY stress? his identity has been known and posted all over the internet going back YEARS, and he claims that Tater has known where he lives for years too) and he is unable to play blackjack at any casino these days. Not that it matters much - my investigation shows that all he does is lose most of the time anyway. So, sore at the fact that his party is over, the UNKewl one stewed all weekend and then came in Monday morning, eyes blazing with mania, and made up some story about how someone had brought over reams of paper "documents" to his Vegas condo about MDawg. Nothing he or anyone else has posted is anything more than nonsense. If he wants to keep up with this nonsense, fine, it keeps him and a select number of other bozos at VCT busy, but anyone with half a brain should be able to see through it with eyes closed.

    The reason he can't post anything is that there is nothing to post would never be anything to post. The casino industry doesn't function these days on "paper" documents and the level of detail he describes simply doesn't exist especially as time goes on. Anything he tried to fabricate and post would look like garbage, he knows this, which is why he can't post anything, so instead he just makes up a number and claims it has something to do with something. It's all hogwash.
     
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  2. Tater

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    Just like kJ to come up with some cockand bull story about a homeless guy coming 500 miles to his complex. He can't post a police report because it doesn't exist.

    It makes a person wonder what goes on in his feable mind and worthless life.

    KJ has no time to play because he concord internet life dominates his thoughts. When he does play, he loses. So he outs other players.
     
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  3. coach belly

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    Why would anyone associated with a casino reveal that kind of info to the public anyway?

    What's the incentive to do a whale dirty like that? Can they afford to embarrass their players?
     
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  4. MDawg

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    What's also comical in this Show of Clowns at VCT, is that some member named The Boz and another named Mister V claimed to have emailed various casinos crying about how why they would let a winning player like MDawg continue to play at their casinos and disrupt their bottom line. As I recall the Boz member claimed that he knew or suspected my identity and included some name along with the emails.

    SO, if these two people are genuinely "concerned" about the well being of the casinos, they should contact them again and refer to the UNKewl one's supposed actions, which everyone already knows the UNKewl one's exact name and address in Vegas, and state that this UNKewl individual is creating potential liability for us by divulging information related to one of our good players. Of course - that would be assuming these clowns really care about the casino bottom line or believe any of what is going on - they don't, they know it is all UNKewl lies - it's just a show of one clown after another posting jealous envious nonsense about MDAWG.
     
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  5. Boz

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    MDawg, you want to start back with me, let’s go. You know who I am and I know who you are, is that the game we want to play? It’s not like there is a risk to either of us being publicly known.

    I have made it clear like most everyone understands, you are a high roller from family money who made it through law school. That’s not doxxing since you have said as much.

    And I respect that you have shown the Wizard for what many of us thought all along by making him your bitch. I do wish you would say how much you paid him, either in cash or other “considerations”. And how all of a sudden you went from hundreds of thousands of winnings to about even. But it’s your fantasy writings, so carry on.

    As I said long ago I can’t imagine someone worth the tens of millions you obviously have from your investment postings cares what others think about him on Internet forums. You must have some insecurity complex, or all those drugs you are taking are messing with your head. Free advice, you don’t need that many pills.

    Another honest question, do you really think anyone other than the Marcus sock believed your winning stories? Coach will say he can’t say either way and the rest just fight other posters on everything.

    And it gives you what your ego needs for some reason I can’t understand. Either way I still appreciate you showing the Wizard to be the little pussy bitch I knew he is. It makes you a legend on gambling forums forever.

    Have a winning day!
     
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  6. KewlJ

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    First of all this is a lie and a rather vicious one that Moses/tater has repeated numerous times. The admin team has suggested that I "demand" he prove this and so I am. I demand tater prove this lie he has repeated. Not sure what that gets me.
     
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  7. MDawg

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    One would be hard pressed to find fault with some of what Boz posted above.

    The UNKewl one could take some lessons in learning how to come across like a man.

    I still stand by wondering why anyone would pass along any information or disinformation to someone like the UNKewl one though, unless it was done to make the UNKewl idiot chase his own tail and make a fool of himself (was THAT the motive?). I am quite certain that Boz would be loathe to stand in the same room as this petty, whiny, loser whose posts positively reek of a manic depressive sCHiZOPhreNia? Doesn't make sense that anyone could derive pleasure from an UNKewl shit show, unless Boz is laughing right now alongside me AT the UNKewl one.

    What I will repeat is that the number the UNKewl one posted about me is wrong, which is why I know he made it up. He doesn't have any evidence to produce.
     
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  8. KewlJ

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    Now moving on to Mdawg. I never said any information came from any host. I don't deal with hosts. I don't know any hosts. I have friends in the industry. Hosts are on the fringe of the industry. So I have no idea what a "hosts" information might show. If all they have access to is a running total for a players play, that would almost make sense. But anyone thinking the casino doesn't have more detailed information, including a breakdown of players play by session and day, particularly day, doesn't know what they are talking about. This is precisely why AP's trying to preserve longevity will go ahead and "book a loss" occasionally...so the record doesn't show all winning sessions/days.

    Now any casino record is not going to be exact. At my level of play, it can be off fairly significantly as players try to hide wins and losses, or just exit and enter without 'official' buyins or color ups. At higher levels like Mdawg claims, you would think it would be closer to accurate. I don't know exactly how accurate the number I posted yesterday was, or how up to day but it sure seems to have ruffled one dawg's feathers.

    Mdawg repeatedly calling me a losing player, both for the year last year, which he knows is a lie and whatever terminology he is saying now...let's see "all he does is lose most of the time anyway", only confirms that he is well aware I am an actual winning player. The fact is last year was a bad year, below expectation for me but still a winning year and this year, I am having a very good year, significantly above expectation. As a matter of fact after 6 straight nice winning months, October was slightly in the red. I am hoping for one more good month and it will be a very good year.

    So Mdawg can say what he wants. People know I have shared my experiences and results pretty accurately win or lose, good or bad for more than a decade. And I don't have to come back and adjust results to about even or slightly behind (like 118k) after posting 7 months of nothing but winning. :confused: And Have Shackleford praise me for telling the truth after 7 months of lying daily. That is just lame on both of them.
     
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  9. KewlJ

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    I have thought this almost since day 1 Boz and said so. I think most of us immediately recognized that Mdawg is/was a previously banned member at WoV. I have thought this whole adventure was about making a mockery of Shackleford and WoV.
     
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  10. MDawg

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    The information I have on the UNKewl one is solid, and it includes his full name and address, which has been posted online for years anyway, and in any case according to him Tater already visited him. You don't think Tater and I would share intel?

    The disinformation the UNKewl one is posting is utter nonsense. He made it appear as though someone from a casino showed up at his pad (the story falls apart right there - the UNKewl one has no friends, he hasn't even been observed with anyone during any of the time we've had him investigated) and handed him stacks of paper referring to days and days of play for some player that is supposedly MDawg. The "seven month" long figure of play is also something the UNKewl one pulled out of MY session reports, it further demonstrates that he made all this up, because it doesn't even correspond to the exact correct period of play including at the casino he refers to, in fact, perhaps the last time I played at Cosmopolitan was in _______. It's utter hogwash, the UNKewl one has nothing to back up his lies but his ever active mouth, which spends all its days and night doing nothing much more than talk about...you guessed it...MDAWG!

    I could get into more details about why I know the UNKewl one made all this up, but...why? Why not just let him continue to chase his own tail.

     
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  11. KewlJ

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    Thank you Mdawg. This is exactly what I thought and you have just confirmed it. Moses, Mdawggy just threw you under the bus.

    Tater/Moses shared information on where I live because he was there trying to sneak past security, and Mdawg created a sockpuppet on a forum that he either controls or has strong influence on and posted that information (Doxxed), then claimed it was some new member and he knew nothing about it. Thanks for confirming Mdawg. I am glad we got that out of the way.
     
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  12. MDawg

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    Don't forget that you already told me where you live, almost three months ago. Unlike you though, I don't go around posting that information publicly.

    You're the doxxer, not me! You were already apparently banned or censored and warned at multiple forums for this doxxing.

    And, who is to say that Tater shared intel with me? Maybe I shared intel with Tater?

    In the future, if you don't want people to know your first name, don't go around using it in your screen name. And if you don't want people to know where you live, don't go around telling multiple people where you live.
     
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  13. Tater

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    Kj lies #1 and #2: Moses is homeless and living on Government assistance for the last 10 years.

    Fast People search is a free internet search.

    YOU will see I bought my home in February 2011 for $170k and have lived in it since that time. Zillow has shows today's value to be over $500k. Condos sell in this area for $400k. The entire complex sold out quickly.

    There are other properties listed. For instance, I bought the home in Waco,TX for my daughter while she attended Baylor. I sold it when she graduated.

    Poppy Hills was the house on a golf course in Brookside. Applewood Drive was when disaster struck. The rest, you'd have to ask. I see no reason to list each one. YOU get the picture. No?

    Point is, hardly the profile of a homeless person needing government assistance.

    KJ lies #3 and #4: Moses plays red chip and bets $10 a game. How does he obtain this information? Why would a guy move to Reno and play such small amounts?

    KJ says he could have outted me 2 years ago from a police report. The report is how he determined lies #1 and #2.

    KJ says he can out me by email or a phone call.
    Seriously, I don't know how all that even works.

    So he is in Reno. Claims to have lost $11k. I am banned a couple days later from two casinos in the same morning. THE last time I was banned was in 2014.

    Lie #5: I was at his complex. What month, day, year did this happen?. Security filed a police report which he has in his possession. I've call LVPD. They referred to another that handles such matters. I talked to Anita at LVMPD, gave her my name address etc etc. Explain the accusation. We had a good laugh about it.

    If I did know KJs name and address, wouldn't now be the time for retaliation? If I did, I wouldn't be stupid enough to go directly to his residence. He might have a gun or a big dog.

    One might send another person into a bar and say there is someone outside. OR catch a person where they have breakfast in the morning.

    SO IF KJ ran an internet search? HOW did he come to conclusions of a homeless person on government assistance. He didn't. He is a liar and a drama queen just like always.

    Adm. A view of this alleged police report speaks volumes. I know I haven't been to Vegas since March 2016 for my daughter's wedding.
     
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  14. KewlJ

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    I know you THINK I did, but I didn't. :cool: But it is interesting that IS the information that this supposedly new member that wasn't you posted isn't it? You are just admitting everything today aren't you. These guys always hang themselves.
     
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  15. redietz

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    I think the more jarring aspect of all of this nonsense isn't that somebody posted that they won 50 out of 52 days and all that crap. The jarring aspect is that Shackleford propped this up for so many months and months.

    I would hope that if the time comes that I posted on a forum that I won 50 out of 52 ATS wagers, that somebody would step forward and say that I'm full of it unless I prove it. If you're posting somewhere that just blithely allows you to say stuff like that, the site that's allowing it is essentially worthless.

    And if anyone is wondering, no, I have never and will never win 50 out of 52 ATS games. Any claim similar to that should be doubted and tossed into the round filing cabinet. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
     
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  16. Tater

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    KJ does. THE difference is Mdawg is talking about a game he plays. For instance, I could tell REDietz I picked 13 out of 16 games. I would be lying.
    KJ made it personal.
     
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  17. redietz

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    And can you imagine if I spent a year or two on four forums claiming that I won 50 out of 52 ATS games, and then later "came clean" with a confession that, yeah, I may have won a little or lost a little or broken even? Can you imagine if I had been hammering away with the 50 out of 52 ATS story on WoV for a year? Do you think Shackleford would have backed me? Agreed to meet me to see me bet a day's worth of games and sign an NDA? And suspend or ban people calling me a liar?

    It's just sad because there aren't any classic forums for actual knowledgeable gamblers. I would have liked to know about how MDawg compares various properties' comps and such. I know folks who gamble in MDawg's ballpark and, in a couple of cases, are retired and gambled more before retirement. I'm sure they would have liked to compare their notes with MDawg's and figure out the best angles and such.

    Instead, it's all trash.
     
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  18. MDawg

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    Just keep posting your UNKewl nonsense. Whenever I have time I'll continue to point out how and why it is nonsense, but rest assured that is all it is. I am laughing over here.

    On the other hand, the intel I have on you is accurate, and that's why you started crying (not laughing) about how you consulted with an attorney. Why would you claim that you consulted an attorney unless whatever was posted, which was deleted before I even had a chance to see it, was accurate?

    That was, by the way, another imaginary conversation you had only in your head. You never spoke to any attorney about anything, you just lied about it the same way you lied about having an attorney when you were backroomed and had a broom handle shoved up your arse, and you ran like the nervous poodle that you are: "I ran out the casino and about a mile down the strip before stopping."

    But the fact that you came online in a panic and cried about consulting an attorney and suing proves that whatever was posted about you was accurate. Compare your reaction to mine. All I am doing is laughing at you and continuing with my blessed life. If you ever do anything that matters to me, believe me, you will hear about it.

    Anyway, here's the convo that WOULD happen if the UNKewl one ever did consult an attorney:


    UNKewl one (in a high pitched whiny voice): I...I...need an attorney. I was doxxed! Someone posted my real name and address on the internet.

    Attorney: The nerve! Let's get the bastard. I'm your man.

    UNKewl one: Yes. Yes. Let's get started.

    Attorney: Of course! Now...tell me a little more. How did this happen. How did whatever was posted get around? What was posted?

    UNKewl one: Well my first name was posted.

    Attorney: Right. That's a doxxing for sure. Now, who knows your first name?

    UNKewl one: No one! Well...almost no one. Actually, I used to use my first name as part of my screen name.

    Attorney. Oh. Well. What else was posted.

    UNKewl one: My address! Where I live.

    Attorney: NO WAY! We'll get the doxxer for that.

    UNKewl one (whiny voice goes up a pitch): Yes. Please!

    Attorney: Now, you've never posted your address online have you?

    UNKewl one: No. Never! But....

    Attorney: But?

    UNKewl one: Well, I told someone where I live a few months ago. And...and....

    Attorney: What else?

    UNKewl one: Someone else who is a very vocal enemy of mine once visited me at my place, so he knows too.

    Attorney (pausing): Anyone else?

    UNKewl one (whining softly): Yes. A number of others who are online know where I live.

    Attorney: Hmm. So, seems like the information is already out there. Well, what about what was posted, is it still posted?

    UNKewl one: No it was removed almost immediately.

    Attorney: Can you even prove that whoever posted it is who you think it was?

    UNKewl one: No, not exactly.

    Attorney: So let me get this straight. You have freely shared your first name online. You have freely shared where you live with others online. And that information that you had no problem with sharing with random strangers online was posted, briefly, and then deleted?

    UNKewl one (sulking, voice rising to a falsetto whine): I'm the victim here! I'm always the victim! People are always out to get me! I knew you wouldn't understand.

    Attorney: Relax. Relax! I'll take your case.

    UNKewl one (sobbing with relief): You will?

    Attorney: Yes. Sure! Why not. Only....

    UNKewl one: Only...?

    Attorney: Only, you'll have to pay all my fees and costs up front on this one. I'll do everything I can! A five thousand dollar retainer should do it. That will at least get me started anyway.

    UNKewl one: Five thousand! I'm a little short this week. I just lost $11,000. in Reno. I ended last year in the red and gave up! I haven't even been playing blackjack lately and when I do all I can do is think about this guy online and I can't concentrate on my play. I'm on a losing streak. Five hundred, maybe I could come up with that, but five grand! No way.

    Attorney: Okay well, just let me know. I'm here for you! [click.]

    UNKewl one sulks for a while. Paces. And logs back on to post more nonsense. About MDAWG!
     
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  19. KewlJ

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    Ok, lets get a few things straight here. I did say Moses was homeless when I didn't know if he was. He was and still hangs around with a crew that consists of homeless people or near homeless guys on govt assistance or checks. Anyone that frequents casinos, especially local type sees these kinds groups all the time. Another AP and I had some fun referring to him as 'homelessmoses' or 'homoses'. Moses bizzarrely posted at ZZ at the time. I never thought Moses was homeless living in a cardboard box (if I really did, I would have hightailed it to Reno and rented him a room). I am glad he has a home and stable place to live.

    I don't know exactly what you bet, but I know it is not the levels you claim. You are forgetting that when you burst onto the scene, you claimed to be making a living as a sport bettor and blackjack player and had been for years. That story has since changed. redietz immediately saw holes in your claim of professional sports bettor and several of us professional blackjack players recognized the hole in that part of the story. A player can NOT play Reno regularly for anything more than low limit. Out of town players can show up for a weekend and get some play in at green/black if they are careful, but a player can NOT play that regularly. Too small and sweaty a place. This happens to be the exact problem I had in Atlantic City, which is why I had to move to a location that allowed for a bigger rotation and higher tolerance levels.

    Dude, you publicly threatened to come to Vegas, find me, take pictures and distribute them to casinos. That is why you are banned at a forum that it is almost impossible to be banned from (VCT). And then 2 months later, 3 months later, you showed up at my building. How stupid are you?

    Yes I was in Reno for a weekend. Yes I lost 11k. I shared that on another forum after words. I did not out you. I would never do so to another AP and moses, you aren't even on my radar when I am not playing with you online like a toy. If you were really banned, don't blame me. Frankly I am surprised it didn't happen long ago if you are playing green/black regularly in Reno (which I don't believe you are).

    All I was saying is that if I did want to out you, I wouldn't need to travel to Reno to do so. In addition, I have been to Reno several times since I knew who you were. This isn't the first.

    Dude, I tried to cut you a break last week. You announced you were retiring from blackjack before you made up this nonsense about me outing you. For some odd reason you posted your name and to no one's surprise your initials are KKK. lol. Anyway, I wished you well and offered an olive branch to just move on. You refused and I guess have this strange desire to continue on.
     
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  20. Tater

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    KJ writes: He was and still hangs around with a crew that consists of homeless people or near homeless guys on govt assistance or checks. Anyone that frequents casinos, especially local type sees these kinds groups all the time.

    Tater writes: How in the world would you know who I hang out with. Lou, Steve, and Joe are my Peppermill buds. All 3 are far from homeless. Joe recently celebrated his 90th birthday. He is healthier and more alert than most guys in their 50's. Lou is 84. Been in the stock market since 1960. Traveled all over the world with his job. Steve owns at least 5 houses throughout the US. Has a lovely wife. They are both gainfully employed and enjoy life to the fullest.
    A couple of other young guys drop inperiodically who are gainfully employed. SO I don't know where KJ comes up with homeless concoction.
     
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