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Misc The VCT Thread!

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by Karen Nathan, Sep 23, 2019.

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  1. redietz

    redietz Well-Known Member

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    This is actually incorrect, MDawg, in that what kewlJ has described regarding what he does vis-a-vis video poker is not very detailed at all. As someone who has played video poker and tried to find the best deals, pay tables, and comp rates, I can report that I pay attention and what kewlJ tells people about his video poker play is minimal, bare bones stuff. Of almost no use. His descriptions of his blackjack play, although not specific to locations or individual hands (because who cares about individual hands, really?), offer more information that his video poker comments.

    I take it you don't play much video poker? That would explain why you think he's providing some detail. He's really not. If you aren't familiar with video poker, I could understand how any information would appear to be more than it is.
     
  2. Tater

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    Still playing forum slap ass with Mdawg.:singing:

    Same old song.
     
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  3. Tater

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    RE Dietz. KJ Insightful? What exactly did you learn about blackjack? That he counts two tables?
     
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  4. MDawg

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    The UNKewl one in just the few posts he has made about video poker has already described specific action in a specific session. In all his UNKewl thousands of blackjack posts he's never described a single hand of actual play.

    He's quick to step in to discuss blackjack theory, but no actual play.

    As Mission146 has said, between me and the UNKewl one:
    In fairness to MDawg, he has definitely proven more about himself than I understand you to have done.

    Mission146 on the UNKEWL one: Ironically, MDawg is actually much more of a verified real person than you are based on what you have now said. He was technically more verified before that, but you had a very long history that gave you some credibility on the forums. Now, you've lied about everything. Convincingly. Why should I believe anything a person says who has supposedly lied about literally everything except for that because...reasons? MDawg is definitely a high-rolling player.
     
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  5. Tater

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    Mdawg. You and I play single and double deck. So the counts resets quickly. Suppose you walk up to shoe and 3 players are playing and the shoe is half gone. So do you sit down and disregard the cards already played? Go find another game?

    Suppose you walk to an empty and the shoe is half gone. Do you ask the dealer to reshuffle?
    Suppose dealer obliges. The shoe goes extremely negative after a few hands. So you walk away?

    All I've ever read is a bunch of kick the can bullshit from KJ. Keep throwing good money at a positive count no matter the cost. Fucking nuts.
     
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  6. MDawg

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    For one thing, some casinos allow mid shoe entry others do not. Obviously the smaller the deck the less important mid shoe entry becomes, especially if it's a full table and single deck.
     
  7. Tater

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    Exactly. So much for counting two tables. They won't let you even if you could. BJTF preaches solid deck estimation, adamant true count estimate, and no wiggle room on indices. That tells me one always has to start with a fresh shoe. No?

    I can tell you there are no others players at my table. What is the limit of players on a shoe? Just happy to find a seat?
     
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  8. MDawg

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    Unless you're just spouting theory like UNKewlJ and the majority of the other WOV stay-at-home Monday morning quarterbacks.

    R.Singer was one of the first to call UNKewlJ on his "concocted" internet forum presence, and gradually everyone else has lined up, ranging from for example you, Tater, and Mission146, Monet, Ozzy, MickeyCrimm, coachbelly, Norm, mcap, and others who have flat out called him a liar, to AccountInQuestion who started calling him on just drawing his entire fabricated blackjack presence from a book with little or no actual play. In short, everyone has his number, and it bothers him to no end.

    RobSinger on the UNKewl one: The reason he posts so much is because he never feels as if his lies are getting across to anyone, and that bothers him. Someone who lives such a concocted virtual life on internet gaming forums just CANNOT have that

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  9. MDawg

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    When the hounds move in too close for comfort and he goes on tilt is when he feels the need to start yet another nonsense post or two or three or ten about one of the true winners out there, such as MDawg, to pass along some some more made up nonsense hoping to divert the attention from his losing lying UNKewl self.
     
  10. Tater

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    Mdawg writes: Unless you're just spouting theory like UNKewlJ and the majority of the other WOV stay-at-home Monday morning quarterbacks.

    Tater says: Pretty much. I would think these answers would be easy peasy for the self professed pros Flash and KJ. RE Dietz and Alan seem to have swallowed the hook, line, and sinker.

    Because someone threw a bunch of numbers at them? I guess some need to live vicariously through others.
     
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  11. KewlJ

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    Mdawg, do you think you are winning something? Some kind of troll competition by lying and taking comments our of context?

    All this lying and hate hasn't changed my life. I am still a successful advantage player making a modest and comfortable living off casinos for almost 20 years now. I still live in a nice condo, just off strip. I have other real AP's that network and work with me when need be.

    And you are still a losing gambler, reporting only his wins and saying nothing about his losses that wipe out those wins. And that is preceisely why you get comped as you do. THAT is the way it works and everyone knows it. You aren't fooling anyone. And that is why your thread has no one repond any more. If you aren't there to bump it up, it dies as it has. No one beleives this crap any more.

    It is more than evident to anyone or should be from all you movie clips and that stuff, that you live in some kind of alternative fantasy world, not the real world. And you have carried that over to your lies about me and others on forums. I mean, seriously, what the hell is the matter with you?

    You do what you have to do, but none of it is real. You know it. I know it. Almost everyone else that has any interest knows it. Only a few other haters, blinded by their hate like you play along. It is just sick dude. And on a day when we see 20 more elementary school kids massacred by some sick bastard, we need less of this hate, this sickness, this alternative reality. Join the real world dude and stop acting like a sick fuck.
     
  12. MDawg

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    mcap on the UNKewl one: You’re right, the story isn’t about Mdawg (or the wizard for that matter), it’s about YOU, always about someone once upon a time wronged you for something petty as fuck you’re seemingly incapable of moving past, it’s ALWAYS been primarily about you.

    Dude just send a PM to redeitz next time. No one else gives a fuck.

    accountinquestion on the UNKewl one: You on the other hand are not that believable

    Mission146 on the UNKewl one: I'll just assume everything that he says from this point forward is a lie and that's good enough for me.
     
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    Recent on the other forum the kewl-j make the claim that the el-Cortez was cheatin him, intentional. Now the el-Co is a legit joint in the Las Vegas and not the sawdust joint in some shits-hole, thirds-world country so hope the boy will pony up some detail-specific to back up the claims, hey hey!!!!
     
  14. redietz

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    I thought blackjack for counters had pretty much died in Las Vegas. I learned it hasn't necessarily died, although you have to behave completely differently than 30 years ago. I learned that all counts are partial counts, which is an obvious thing, but must be taken to heart. I learned that cheating by the house in blackjack may be employed more often than I would have thought, and it doesn't require a mechanic.
     

  15. Tater

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    Partial counts are about as useful as the NBA 1st quarter score on a full game bet.

    Cheating? Know your dealer is invaluable.
     
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  16. Tater

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    KJ writes: we need less of this hate, this sickness, this alternative reality. Join the real world dude and stop acting like a sick fuck.

    Tater writes: This from someone who threatened to dig up an elderly mans wife and do the unmentionable. Why? Because he didn't buy KJs I'm a blackjack pro bullshit.
     
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  17. KewlJ

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    You are just flat out wrong Moses. John Ferguson, who we know as Standford Wong proved this. Ferguson has a PHD in finance from Standford and was a professor at Oregon. When he got into blackjack he programed one of the first blackjack software programs, Blackjack antilizer, which proved beyong any doubt (except yours I guess) that there is an advantage in partial counts and minimal data seen. This is the basis for what became known as "wonging", which is still a winning strategy today, when it can be deployed.

    So just stop with your declarations that simply are wrong. If you don't want to use and employ partial counts, dont. But stop with the statements that have been proven wrong, Proven by well educated mathamatician using highly advanced computer programs. It's ridiculous.
     
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  18. Tater

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    Okay dipshit. Suppose you jump in when 3 decks are played. We all know the make up of a standard deck. But you don't know what was played in the 1st 3 decks. Suppose 64 tens came. Just because you see a bunch of small cards doesn't mean your count is positive. It could be even or negative.

    Those math guys wrote books. Didn't Play shoes.

    Computer programs never played a hand either.
     
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  19. KewlJ

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    Moses, I am not going to play these games any more. I don't give a rats ass who beleives what. Frankly, it is better for me if more people don't beleive.

    But the fact is Mdawg know, you know I am a blackjack player who plays for a living. Mdawg looked into it, doxxed me, and I beleive sent info to casinos and possible database company. So he damn well knows. You guys don't like me for other reasons, but that doesn't or shouldn't change what you know to be true. Just stop and grow the F up.
     
  20. KewlJ

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    Moses, for God sakes. Wong did play blackjack...for most of his life. He wrote that he made over $100,000 in his first few months of playing blackjack. And he continued to play his whole life. I am not sure it ever was his sole income as he made much more money doing other things, but ask him, I am sure he made a couple million in his lifetime playing blackjack.

    I met him at Westin, right after I moved to Vegas, playing the blackjack video game, dealer angels (the one with 5 seats) of all things. He is the one that taught me how to beat that game. he is very approachable. If you have questions or doubts about his life work, which includes the concept of wonging, derived from partial counts, ask him.
     
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