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Baccarat Why is it so difficult to win?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Craps, Jun 2, 2021.

  1. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

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    Seriously? I suppose I was reported by the troll? The troll that wasn’t even on my radar before he made the first public blows towards me weeks ago. I understand a site or even a world where people are courteous of civility, respect and cordial disagreements; but a world where we are forced to respect people that troll the communities and offer absolutely zero contributions… that is a strange world, but I also imagine in that world that anything is possible, maybe unwitty comments are the equivalent to currency; therefore, certain persons could revitalize entire cities such as Detroit with their otherwise inability to offer something of value in the way we contribute in this real world.

    Unfortunately, I can’t abide by these simple rules as I cannot force myself to respect NathanDetroit. Sometimes respect is earned, not given. Obviously, most normal people give others the benefit of the doubt, but it is what it is.

    If I’m banned from this site, that’s okay, this place isn’t tied up with my identity and I was only originally here to share valid ideas and processes to help others. Along the way I became human and interacted with some the way I would in real life.

    I have no apologies to offer to the four board members that I have probably pissed off, but I would just like to make general statements to those so that the air is clear:

    Nathan Detroit, I will learn to respect your inability to continue contributing absolutely nothing to this site. While I will not make blows towards others unfounded and then report them when they strike back, I will learn to respect your ability to dish it out, but then not be able to take it when it comes back your way. In the real world, I have learned to be courteous towards those that simply waste oxygen, and someone wasting similar resources on this site deserves that same courtesy. I’ll also offer you a mild apology just to clear up any misconceptions to my previous comment. When I made the reference that dicks come out of your mouth, I didn’t mean it in a homophobic way. I have absolutely no problems with the gay community, and I wasn’t insinuating that you might be gay. After mentioning the first two things that come out of your mouth, I wanted to say at least one thing positive. So basically I meant the smartest thing to ever come out of your mouth was a dick.

    Justberich, I called you a scammer since you operate a roulette website that is an affiliate of a well known scammer on this site that even the admins have labeled as a scammer. In the real world, I absolutely cannot stand people like you, but here, I must respect you. So this is me saying that I “respect” you.

    Gizmo, same thing I guess. I called you out once craps reminded me that you successfully scammed an actually real life respectable person on here out of more than $5,000. So I bashed and bashed you. I simply wanted people to know who you were so that it wouldn’t be forgotten. Along the way, I made a lot of jabs about your mental illnesses, which probably weren’t very courteous. It was just because I didn’t respect you. Now that I realize the rules are that I HAVE to respect you, I just want yo say that, in the real world I normally wouldn’t. But here, I respect your ability to convince people to give you money and gamble it away, I respect your inability to program sims, I respect that you are a dirt poor trailer park guy that isn’t wealthy enough to be a conservative, but like many poor people without a large grasp of reality, I respect it anyways.

    Gr8player, I respect you passive-aggressive posts about me and my working method. You are probably the only one in this list that I could actually probably respect in the real world. But by defending myself towards your statements about me, it was probably disrespectful on my part since I didn’t simply agree to disagree without making my own statements.

    I will legitimately try and respect the useless people on here such as ND, and try my hardest to respect the well-know scammers from here on out as long as I’m not banned or censored after this post.
     
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  2. judge

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    I love it!! And thanks for your trying to help others. If you say it's Easter, I'm dying the eggs.
     
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  3. Randy Burnett

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    I have played Baccarat for about 28 years. The post, why is it so difficult to win. Do you only consider the game? Could it be that the casino's don't like to lose money and therefore they study you ie the player as much as the player study's the game. My point is the game within the game, if I want to turn the shoe in the direction I want it to go, i will wager a certain way and when the casinos adjust, I have them right where I want them, Game, Set, Match.

    Wewin2222
     
  4. Jae

    Jae Well-Known Member

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    I “respect” your conspiracy theory, but I politely disagree with your thought process. The casino doesn’t have to analyze your play and try to adapt to it so that you lose more. The game is already designed in their favor. When you create the superstitious… I mean conspiracy of them adapting to your game and then change it and win… it’s just a coincidence that you are winning whenever you “think” you have them right where you want them. I’m sure soxfan will have a better way to define your method. I respect you. And I love you. God bless you.
     
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  5. Randy Burnett

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    I use to play with a Family Practice Physician who despised the player run, I have seen him lose 10's of thousands of dollars at nausea wagering against the player run. It would usually take the casino about 3 shoes and we would start to see runs of players 10 to 15 in a row. one marker after another making the casino rich and me sick at my stomach. I knew then after watching this on several occasions, maybe I should think like the casino, and I started watching players and how they would win in the beginning and lose after the casino made an adjustment. Just food for thought and some things that I have been a witness to on many occasions.

    Wewin2222
     
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  6. asymbacguy

    asymbacguy Active Member

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    That's funny.
    Posting pictures by ridiculing poor disabled persons (see Junket King aka Punkcity member post at 'regressions' thread) is allowed without any action by adm team, but other interesting members (Jae) who provided valuable insights are warned to be "respectful".

    Think about this.

    as.




     
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  7. soxfan

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    So yer sayin that casino orchestrate the shoe result to make long player streak pop to clip cats? Or is this just another backs hand way to take shot at cats what bet bankers only, hey hey?
     

  8. Randy Burnett

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    Just sharing what i've seen through the years. It' not an end all, be all, just a thought that some might consider.

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  9. soxfan

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    Well yer implying one and/or the other and I reject both. The drawing rule of the game ensure that will be more b than p decision. there will be slightly more b streak than b of slightly longer duration. And there will be slight more b dom situation than p d and of slightly longer duration. Those things are sure to pop unless casino are cheating and don't see how that's possible, hey hey.
     
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  10. Randy Burnett

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    I think at the end of the day we have to be a student of the game. Spend time looking at every angle, trend, stat that you possible can. Talk to people you trust about the game. i will say this, when I make a wager, i know exactly why I have made that wager, I have a method to my madness as some would say. I asked a friend of mine who has been playing Baccarat for about 40 years. Question: While we were sitting at dinner, I asked him how do you know what to wager on when the Bank has won 3 in a row. I was actually surprised by his response. He told me that he doesn't know what will happen, nobody does. Some would say it broke on 3 last time, and others would say its due for a Bank run and both thought's could be right. I would say for me it depends, What do I see, am I looking at an 11 or 41, vector or reverse vector, negative or positive progression, what are the cards telling me when I read what is coming out of the shoe. I play a God given multi system that works. At the end of the day we all have to go to bed with ourselves and we are responsible for the decisions we make.

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  11. Jae

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    Junket king and punkcity are the same peeps???
     
  12. soxfan

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    Well i aon't interested in trend or angle, but I am interested in the stat. The most important stat is that b is gonna pop at slightly less than 41%. The other important stat is that 1,2,3,4 streak is gonna comprise slightly more than 95% of all streaks event. And, b streak gonna pop more than p streak and for slightly longer duration. S, the key takeaway is to NEVER bet against b streak only buck up against anti-streak on p, hey hey.
     
  13. Randy Burnett

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    Good point, betting on the Bank or Player run is a good strategy for long term success. However some shoes have runs that are short and sweet 4 to 5 in a row as opposed to what we all dream of (10-13).

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  14. soxfan

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    Bbbbbbbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh the Jae is feudin with the Nathan-Detroit, hey hey.
     

  15. soxfan

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    Uh, no, betting on runs to continue is a bad strategy because long runs are relatively rare. Cats what ain't got the ESP can't know when a streak will commence. By the time a streak, or dom situation manifest it already exhaust most of its' strength and that's why trending, follow the shoe, etc., is so foolish and nonsensical, hey hey.
     
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  16. Randy Burnett

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    Sorry, maybe i misunderstood you, I thought you like to wager on the streak and I was agreeing with your post. Do you like to wager on the run or against the run? What is your thought process when it comes to bet-selection?

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  17. Jae

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    Well, he went and tattled. So now I have to “respect” him. Which I totally do. He’s up there with the greats of my historical time here on earth. About ten years ago I was at a Mexican restaurant and witnessed a hefty broad in another group get incredibly drunk. At one point she knocked over some barstools trying to run to the bathroom. She didn’t make it out of the bar area, started puking and to top it off, she shat herself and it dropped through the bottom of her shorts. Instead of being embarrassed, she scooped up some shit and threw it at a table that was laughing at her. There’s a few Asian players at baccarat and pai gow tables that hold one nostril closed while blowing snot on the floor of the casino. They remind me of ND, and I totally respect them and what they do. There was an intellectual who contracted the HIV in the 90’s, who deliberately spread it to everyone he could because he thought that if he infected more people, he was doing them a service as scientists would find a cure faster. Just as much respect for that guy and his brilliance that I have for ND. A WHOLE LOT!

    I once read a tweet from someone that said: “people get assassinated for being to educated.”

    My first reaction was that he purposely misspelled “too” so that he wouldn’t be next. I respect Nathan Detroit’s inability to form a grammatically correct sentence because he too has read that tweet and doesn’t want to be assassinated. Some people might just think he’s not very bright, but ND is playing chess while y’all are playing checkers. I respect how incredibly bright this man is.
     
  18. Randy Burnett

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    Nice post..,funny stuff.

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  19. asymbacguy

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    Yep, scientifically proven.

    Besides IP issues (JK resides in Manchester, UK), posts on both nicknames are made on the same tone, built up on the same long fkng pattern, often concluding with the same acronymns.
    Despite of fictionally stating to come from different countries (UK and Aussie), both mention 'down under' casinos, but the english language is the same.
    It happens one of my best friend is Sydney placed and I got many friends in UK. Well, Aus and UK people tend to construct phrases with the same language but in different ways, here there're no differences. Especially when considering "rare" words that coincidentally are frequently utilized at both nicknames.

    Finally, there's always a probability to get a "well timed" response after a given member had posted, unfortunately the GMT hours gap is 11 hours but the 'target' will be hit by the same GMT frequency.
    Not mentioning that our beloved Peter Keating (Junket King) likes to post under multiple nicknames (Johno, RolexWatch, JK and many others)

    Curiously, when one nickname intervenes the other one tends to remain silent for long, unless both are supporting the same idea within short term intervals.

    See how many times at recent posts Punkcity intervened when JK was silent and vice versa.

    as.
     
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    We don't know which posts you are referring to since you did not report them at the time to bring them to our attention.

    But allow us to take this opportunity to clarify a few things:

    1) If a post is ridiculing non-members, then yes, it is allowed as long as it respects all our other rules. Rule #1 is against disrespecting other members and the reason that is our first rule is because threads tend to go off-topic and get derailed once members start attacking each other instead of the ideas they are debating. Ad hominem/name-calling attacks are the lowest form of debate as it generally means one is incapable of refuting the other person's ideas.

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    The warning was not for a particular member. When one sees bias where there is none, it is generally a projection of their own biases (in this case, a bias you may have in favor of member @Jae which you are entitled to have). We, however, have no such biases as we have no relationship with any member here, don't owe anyone anything, don't have any interests in the Gambling industry other than GF, and have no skin in the game.

    In this particular case, we received multiple reports of multiple infractions by multiple members in this thread, and so instead of doing a mass sanctioning of multiple members and multiple posts, we decided to take this opportunity to remind everyone of our rules. We don't see anything wrong with a friendly reminder since we did not pick any sides and did not direct it at any single member since more than one member violated our rules in this thread.



    This is false. Although we appreciate your anecdotal evidence and bringing this potential sock puppetry to our attention, we currently have no actual evidence to suggest members @Junket King and @Punkcity are the same person. Please note that we have a lot more data on each of them and a lot more experience detecting sock puppets than anyone else here. So please leave the detective work to us, but always feel free to ask us to look into possible sock puppets as they are against our rules, and we do deep investigations whenever such allegations are brought to our attention, and we then publicly report our findings like we did just now for those 2 members after investigating them.
     
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