Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

According to Bovada's website, if they are pulling in $50,000 a month or more from the players you are sending them you will get a 40% cut of the money. It drops off to lower percentages for lower amounts of money.

 

God, I had forgotten about the affiliate programs. During the poker boom, I had a friend set up a website with a 40% cut of the rake from Party Poker on players signed up through us.
At my local bar, all anyone was talking about was poker. I came up the the bright idea of giving 12 people $100 cash free to sign up through our site/affiliate code, figuring if only 2 or 3 ended up playing a decent amount things should be good.
In the end, 8 people just kept the $100 and never signed up. The remaining 4 signed up and blew the $100 and never re-deposited or played again.
Not one of my better ideas.

 

If you had done it right it would have been profitable.
You only needed to give them $25 and you would have received $75 under the CPA deal. You didn't even have to hand them cash, you only needed to have a poker account with money in it and gift them $25 and you got the $75.

Yes you could just make fake accounts and churn out $50 with each account, however eventually they would catch on and they would take you off of the CPA deal and it was worth far more just doin it legitimately.

FYI other sites were worth up to $150 in profit each person. It was a little bit more complicated because you had to use gift cards. Again, it was more profitable doing it legit.
You could just hand people you a CD at the poker rooms (or wherever)with your affiliate code embedded and a $50 gift card code and you made and instant $150

 

I dont know if thats even true, i just speculated that might be the case. That's a question for someone like Zuga. Im sure the more players you bring them the more you can get. That might not have anything to do with how many people are on your site.

You could have a site with a shiton of visitors that talks about tampons or something, the views and members visits may be worless to an online casino.

But WOV could go down to zero members and they could still negotiate a good deal because they have WOO and apparently that's where they make all the money.

I think WOV is actually bad for their business especially with all the anti-online gambling comments.

 

I dont know if I can add http://wizardofvegas.com/forums/ to my posts I think I will do it as often as possable and find out. I thought it was uncensored. If it's not OK, what are they going to do ban me? (that would probably blessing in disguise)

And yes you can sit at home and make money from casino affiliate accounts. You can probably just use facebook to tout your casinos. It's probably better not to be living in Vegas. All the sites are unregulated in the US. I'm not sure if just anyone can advertise for any regulated casino (probably not). IMO online gaming regulation actually wouldn't be a good thing for affiliates and or AP's. I think only big operations would be able to advertise and make money. Regulated casinos would not offer nearly as much as unregulated casinos. AP opportunities would be easily foiled and if they did make a mistake now they have your money and they got you by the balls. You would be calling gaming to get your money all the time.

 

Yes indeed, to the new owners it's a diseased appendix, ready to burst.

They don't care about the patient, just gonna let him die.

 

I'm sorry, but I inadvertently hijacked the thread. Anyone notice there's now more people from wov posting on this thread 'wov is dying' than banned wov people, ?

 

Nate
A lot of wov ' ers that have no self respect and don't feel they should be treated as valued customers because wov is not a for profit business....it's mikes living room and they are guests in his living room. A living room with billboards

Meanwhile the admin on this site is on record as viewing posters as valued customers. And even seeks advice from us.
Even without billboards.
What a difference. A business that strives to retain customers.
An admin that didn't flinch when an idiot hurled f/u at him explaining there was no ego here where punishment prevails. for just silly namecalling.
The admin here realizes the road to financial prosperity is customer attraction and retention.
However you have won and Ax hole wolf who rather be deemed insignificant leeches that only take take take .
they are but guests.
The site with that attitude is bleeding member visits. While this infant site is growing. And if this site does not become a success...it won't be because customers were not respected and valued.

 

Larry typical- you love this site until it bans you and then you will move to the next one and trash this. It's your modus operandi. Same song all the time with you. Are you just a bitter person? Go out get laid ,make money, be happy!!!!

 

Larry, if the majority of this forum posts up that they deem me as just a guest I will act as one who's overstayed his welcome (BTW I was invited as a founding member) and go back home. Apparently you think you have more right to this forum than I do, as if you are someone special. Interesting, since you have very limited gambling knowledge, no credibility and remain anonymous (as in no one real has ever meet you from a forum, other than one of your possable suckpuppets or lieing buddies) for no real good reason, and have been tossed off a few forums from what I have been told, if that's not true dont focus your entire argument on that.

You are more than welcome to start a thread and ask real people to make real comments if they wish me to stay or go home. I would like to have the founding members who are the top in their fields weigh in and go mainly with their input.

As long as you are willing to do the same.

 

No chance he takes you up on that- he is a legend in his own mind- but basically the guy just wants to bitch

 

Not really sure how all this "customers" thing comes into play. I don't consider myself a customer of WOV in the same sense I'm a customer of Subway or a grocery store. I post because I enjoy posting on WOV and other forums. I think I get more out of the forums than the forum gets out of me.....mostly pure entertainment with a bit of networking & knowledge to be learned. I don't get something concrete in return for posting on any forums, other than what I make of it (networking and learning some stuff). It's not like posting there gives me some unlocked privilege no one else gets. Maybe if there was some deal like, "If you post/view/read X amount of stuff, then you get access to A, B, and C." then I'd feel more like a customer in the traditional sense. Or if I was writing articles or paid to do something. So I'm not. It's all voluntary from me.

I think you're using the word customer as someone who is on the worse-er end of a deal....like a ploppy playing BJ or someone playing roulette -- they are paying (losing) customers and are getting the short end of the stick.

Twist my words around all you want -- it'll make for a good 5 pages by tomorrow afternoon when I wake up.

 

I signed in to WOV today and I guess my ban is over. I got in and could post again if I wanted. I've pretty much had my full of discussing AP for now, but they did let me back in.

 

I get more out of going to Walmart than Walmart gets out of me. I get a weeks worth of groceries which I enjoy eating and which keeps me from being hospitalized for mal-nutrition..they get a tiny insignificant monetary addition to their bottom line. Therefore I must not be a customer.its not a place of business....it's "sams
place"...and I should be indebted to Sam for allowing me inside his place. And I should expect to be treated like shit once I enter because Sam likes to fuck/ with the guests when he is in a bad mood. Also since the food is keeping me alive, they have the attitude "don't let the door hit you......"if I have a complaint. I N the grand scheme of things, my contribution to the well being of Walmart weekly is insignificant compared to their benefit to me. Therefore I walk on eggshells as I watch my neighbors be mistreated and you don't hear a peep from me. I like the prices and I enjoy eating food. Therefore I am their fuckdoll/ if they want me to be.

 

Larrys I guess you really just do not grasp anything... Ever join a social membership like the Mason's? I already know the answer .... You are a member - their rules you don't like it leave- as wiz says don't let the door hit you.

Wal Mart SELLS. a product a forum is a free service
I was in a fraternity- one could argue that I added way more by paying dues and receiving almost nothing in return- if they didn't like the way I acted then they could kick me out. There are other forums- go play nicely and they will let you stay

 

Axholewolf/
Stop trying to make yourself a "victim".There are better and more adult ways to try to win a debate. Playing the poor poor victim role is something I would expect from you.....but not this soon. I really didn't think you would run out of a cogent argument at this early stage. I am disappointed in you inability to continue expressing views. Oh well.
Even though your posts and thoughts lack logic as is usual for you....I never suggested or ordered you to leave...as would someone who felt he was in charge.i have no such pull.
You are exhibiting some false paranoia and making your usual illogical assumptions.
There are plenty of zombies from wov who have watched their neighbors r mistreated without any interest on their part. They are welcome here as much as people with a sense of right and wrong and self worth.
I can debate snivellng cowards...it's rather easy.its just that they give up so easy and start with other tactics. Rather transparent tactics.
But, no , axholewolf/, I do not ask you or order you to leave.heck I don't even ask won to go away. You know, the guy who claims to have a "real girls on his chest as he posts hete. While posting nothing of a cogent nature.
Why would I want you or won to leave. You both are easy to deconstruct and then summarily dismiss.
Your arguments and accusations lack any real bite....lack any real logic or sense of reality. So it's a lot of fun reading your fiction and irrational musings.
So I go on record and without hesitation say...I do not want you to go away.and even though wizard of nothing specifically declared he was gone as a "real girl" was laying on his chest....He and the "real girl" are also welcome.
Every community has pompous professional victims and childish liars. The great thing about this site...is that all are welcome and someone like me has zero say in even suggesting those folks remove themselves.

I am pleased that thus thread has around 45 thousand views and over 1000 posts. It means the topic resonates with people and has substance.
Some people add more substance t Han others...yet we are all gods children and I accept the limitations of others..

 

It it means people think you are loserlarry and everyone loves to watch the train wreck that you are as you become derailed l

 

NOTHING
This is too easy.
Yes a message board is free. And so is my time effort and knowledge that I give in exchange for the free board.
Without the posters/customers the board doesn't exist.....and therefore traffic to the site of posters and lurkers decrease.
With declined traffic....comes less people available to click on the banners.....and less income for the owners.ensues.

So the free board is frequented by customers that pay with their time effort and knowledge. In exchange for free use of the board we help pump up interest and volume of visits which
lead to eventual payment to the owners.by the advertisers.as a certain percent of visitors partake in the advertisers wares.
When this site gets enough customers posting...it too will be able to generate the numbers to get income from advertising banners
And when that day comes it will be because they had a good product and they were able to build and retain their customers.

 

Larry, you are making yourself much more valuable (not you but anyone) .
Take Facebook for example.... Without customers they are nothing, I have never once clicked on an add or purchased anything . Or Instagram may be an even better .... I have to abide by their terms and conditions if if not they can will and have closed accounts-
It's their rules even though you are according to you a customer

 

Losing battle. He is bitter for being told to not come back. Simple as that and for some reason he won't let go. We have things we are bitter about in life and maybe even feel we were not treated right. Larry even makes some good points worth discussing. But to be this obsessed with it is downright scary. I know nothing of Larrys life but something is missing when someone is that obsessed to be this bitter about a simple forum. Hate to see if he is ever turned down for a loan.