Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Larry, it doesn't take a genius to see the failure of your logic here.

 

Mickey, take your big boy antabuse and realize I have no power to "stifle" his story. However I have every right to comment on it.

Another day, another mind haze, another lie

a day in the life of MC

here we go again....a back and forth with a wov mod about general conditions at wov was turned into a ...why didnt you do something for me me me.....and now off we go.

Its fine with me....it gives me more to comment on.....as far as mc and KJ

this is fun

who wants to stifle?

its gone from a calm exchange of opinons on topics other than myself......to a pissing contest with MC as he pisses lies and exaggerations, and another me me me crying spell by KJ

Both shall pass

I CANT MAKE EITHER OF YOU PUT ON A BIG BOY MUZZLE.

 

Larry, you are nothing but a little punk bitch. Grow up little boy. You got busted for your convoluted logic.

 

Bluejay just made several banable offenses in one post in the Betsoft rigged thread. But no mod is on it so far.

There is deafening silence from LCB over the rigged software. They have not made one move to represent their ripped off customers or to make them whole. It is glaringly apparent that LCB, Joshua Chan, and all his employee's, including Shackleford, are complicit and therefore corrupt. It is a corrupt organization from Chan on down.

 

With kj posting 163 and a half pages to himself.

[qoute]Not me. I discussed it for the first time with Face, and put an end to it quickly, making sure I walked the walk when it came to not monopolizing this thread about me me me.[/quote]

As unimportant as my voice is in not agreeing with most of your other stuff, I would say this is a true statement on your part.

eom

 

Serious question. What designates a professional blackjack player? Documented amount won? Multiple appearances on TV? Is there a blackjack union with dues?
A professional athlete signs a performance contract for a set amount of compensation. A professional accountant needs certification before having that title and charging people for their service. A professional 'profession' usually means some input from the subject as in schooling, the bar or dues, etc etc. What proves to the world one is a professional blackjack player?

 

A "professional athlete" is an independent contractor. Nothing professional about it.

 

Sooo, without all the drama, all the bullshit that has gone down til this second, right or wrong, what would REALLY make you happy right now.
What is the ultimate payoff that would make you stop this soap opera in it's tracks and make this entire website a ghost town because YOU would be gone? <-- (couldn't help the sarcasm) I really would like to know. I sense some sort of closure coming and I'm intrigued.

 

It seems everything about gambling is subjective anyways, but a paid athlete is considered a professional for a contract identifier where a amateur athlete would not be considered a professional. Maybe sports isn't a good example here. Maybe the 'professional' title is totally subjective.

 

I can see an athlete being deemed a "professional". There is a dress code, a code of conduct, and performance standards.

If you cannot meet the above criteria, you are let go, and can no longer call yourself a professional athlete.

As opposed to a "professional" card player. No standards. Not even a standard of performance. There are alot of broke gamblers with their lives in shambles who will call themselves professional gamblers. No code of conduct, no performance standards, no dress code.

Like I said...you can be a convicted child molesting, woman beating, arsonist....and still claim the moniker "professional gambler". But not so in real professions.

 

Professional is just subjective. I guess using Larry's argument, you can be a professional street sweeper. Even I don't like the use of "Top Pro" when it comes to poker players. Just ask Ted Forrest.

 

If what people have said is true, and Norm has a habit of threatening a lawsuit, or sending legal papers....then all this KJ stuff is simple. Shackleford is no longer the owner, so its not up to him to blow that threat off and ignore it.....so he passes it on to the real owners who dont give a fuck about KJ, and they basically settle the suit with the complaining party......in the manner you see.
Zuga was in the middle of this in my opinion for a reason.

Just speculation......and I can see the point of management

 

I don't know. I would have to think about it.

But I will start with this. Someone from a past site that we all were on, JUST trashed me on both WoV and Qfit's site....both sites that I can't respond to. Apparently this person, an longtime AP, (I think I know who he is) doesn't think much of me, or the career I have carved out. That's fine. That's his opinion. It's really lame that I can't respond and that goes to the heart of my current complaint.

The fact is that I am a professional blackjack player, even if my earnings and achievements are small potatoes next to this person or other successful AP's. I have supported myself solely from blackjack play for 13 year now (not 15 as this person claimed). And even if I am a lowly card counter, a salamander as james grosgean likes to say (I suppose this person could be grosgean...could be any number of folks I guess), but the point is there are not very many professional card counters left. and here I am a professional player, supporting myself solely from blackjack play and I am unwelcome on the top AP's sites throughout the community, because someone (Qfit) didn't like my opinion and made it his mission to have me silenced. Isn't that kind of ridiculous?

I don't care all that much that I have been proven right concerning the person who was a fraud and making fantastical outrageous claims. It isn't news to me that I was right....I knew that all along. But I think I deserve some sort of sense of restoration of my reputation, which has been thoroughly destroyed throughout the AP community.

And while I mostly blame Qfit, Shackleford played a role by taking sides when there was no need to. No rules had been broken at WoV. Just two known members of the AP community hashing out a difference of opinion. There was absolutely no reason for Shackleford to involve himself. As a matter of fact, Mike's very first communication to me, started "while there are no rules against it, we mods don't like it when...".

So yeah, my starting point would be reinstatement at WoV.

 

Wizardofnothing started that thread to stir the pot or whatever beached whale calls it. Figures. Nobody took the bait. Many see his name and automatically ignore the post.

Kudos to our friend terapined. He gave manboy a couple of uncomfortable jabs concerning KewlJ's ban. His comments were spot on. Good for him for speaking his mind! He wasn't afraid to say what everyone else is thinking.

Seinfeld huh? This could be fun.

 

Also, a professional is getting paid by performing a service or job. Gambling isn't providing a service to anyone but the gambler. I only see a gambler calling themselves a professional when they win touneys and such and gain public notoriety, but their title is still subjective and isn't defined by social standards of performance.

 

I really don't get it about wizardofnothing. I can read his/her posts on at least 4 different boards and he/she hates everyone and everything 95% of the time. The other 5% is defending him/her self. How can anyone be so miserable? It's like they (yes, I'm sure there are other won personalities out there) have Toulouse disease or something. What a shame.

 

oops, didn't mean he/she was short..meant Tourette syndrome.

 

probably both

 

KJ, I'm not sure what else to say and certainly even less sure of what to do. A majority if not all of what you posted in "1"... c'mon, man! How could I intuit the history? How was I to be aware of what you and Mike stated privately? It's good stuff for making a case RIGHT NOW, but when I was in the shit, every stitch of what you posted was obscured. Maybe you blame me for that? After all, I'm pretty good at this stuff. I even brag that out loud. I seem to have an ability to get a read, hell, I was an investigator professionally for many years. Maybe I SHOULD have been able to pick up on all this. All I can do is again apologize. I didn't. Didn't even come close. If you want to pin that on me, fine. I'm not offended and can even see how I could be held partially responsible. But barring a DeLorean and about 2,700' of tarmac, there's nothing I can do to make that all better.

And on #2, what you posted here matters because it was first given to Mike personally, if I'm keeping up correctly. I mean, I read that you stated you were going to haunt him here, that you would be up his ass the rest of his life. But didn't that actually happen prior to even your membership here, in private communication to him? Regardless of whatever wrong I committed on someone, having them draw a line in the sand and having them tell me that they're going to continue pushing it back until I fall off the cliff tells me the opportunity for reconciliation is lost. And this is just me, perhaps Wiz feels different, but I again fall to "Spirit" of the law. If JK was here talking about patterns and flow in Bac, then goes to WoV and decides to shun that in favor of following the dogma, no, obviously I wouldn't fuck with him. No one would. Maybe we get a little more personal and take MrV. Has V not been critical of WoV, the mods, the members, of Mike, both here and at GG? Of course he has. You see anything going down around V? Of course not.

But you trashed the fucking boss, man. And not "I don't agree" or "He's no good at AP" or other similarly ignorable comments. You dug in just as hard as you said you were going to. You called him a fraud, a liar, in not so many words, a piece of shit. If he didn't want to bring that back into his forum, could ANYONE blame him?

I dunno. I'm still here, and what meager offer I can make still stands. Take it, continue attempting to raze Mike into the ground, or forget the whole fuckarow and just do you. It's all the same oat bag.

 

the "professional" poker players that win tournaments, are just either full time or part time successful poker players. If you are a convicted child rapist crack addict,that gets out of jail, and steals enough money to enter a tournament...and wins.....he too can call himself a "professional".
There is no over-seeing authority to strip him of his title. Its a self proclaimed title.