Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

My point really was along the lines of: How can PGD answer to KewlJ? At the same time, KewlJ gripes about not being able to answer to ZK on WoV.

I believe that you won't Doxx me anymore, I said just that a couple of posts ago. You're not the one who, in fact, used my real name and very close variations thereof after I requested such behavior stop.

I said I'm taking you at face value on it, and I am. I believe you. We're cool. The only thing I have to address with you is any NEW subject matter you should choose to bring up. I've even forgiven you for the original Doxxing, I think.

 

Ok, I just went back and saw your post that I guess I initially missed.

So yes, you half addressed it. Sort of addressed it from an administrators point of why the attack was allowed. (and what a freaking sick ass attack....he lost for 3 days, so I am a fake and casino executive)

But then you did add that you haven't know me to convince anyone to do that. Again, I initially missed that, so I thank you for that.

But still allowed my credibility as a professional BJ player, who has experienced a least some level of success to be attacked and called into question. I deserve better than that. As a member of the AP community of which WoV is a part....I deserve better than that. And as a former member of the site that spent 4 years, 3000+ posts trying to positively contribute.....I deserve better than that.

And while again I appreciate your 'somewhat' addressing it, I guess I am disappointed more didn't address that discrediting type attack. Disappointed Mike didn't addressed it. Or maybe some of my ex-friends who are no longer my friends because they felt the need to take sides didn't addressed it.

I mean I can be unhappy with Axel or RS, for whatever reason, but if someone pops up and tries to discredit them by calling them a fake, you can bet I would be all over that. They have earned that.

It just goes back to the same old point for me. An outsider showed up at WoV to silence and discredit me because I had a negative opinion, and this just goes to the extent that he has succeeded and I can do nothing about it.

 

He said you're a fake and insinuated you might be a casino executive trying to get people to try counting in the supposedly, "Rigged," casinos.

I stated that his attack on you was unnecessary and then countered the subject matter of the attack saying the only thing I've known you to do is try to help new and aspiring counters.

I didn't hit him with a wall of text because his post didn't call for that, but I addressed the full subject matter of his post in what I consider a full defense of you. Further, had he persisted along that line, I'd have Banned him for off-topic. That's why I said you have nothing to do with the subject matter.

You're welcome, by the way.

 

As to claiming you might be delusional, the record is pretty clear why I ever came here in the first place as well as why I returned. The record on both those things is both obvious and immutable.

So, for you to get on board with any claims of me having some alterior motive is absurd. It would be excusable, but for the fact that you were involved in me ever coming here to begin with as a first hand party to the matter.

 

Huge difference. The ZK attack that I am a fake and casino executive luring young blackjack players to Vegas is 1) new and 2) completely bullshit.

The things about PGD and I are on record....30 different times. I am not making anything up. Go read it. Mike Shackleford even alluded to it.

I am NOT attacking Dan Lubin. I am offering my feelings of his passing. And I am just saying that while I am somewhat sad that a former member of the site that I used to hold special, passed, and I, 100% sincerely offer my condolences to those that knew him, I am not sad that PGD is no longer railing against AP's. Good, kind, generous person that he may have been in real life, according to his friends, on the forum, concerning this topic, he was "argumentative" and "extreme" (Shackleford's words) and judgmental (my words). There is no attack there. It is record.

 

I have no argument against the factuality of your subject matter. It is all on record. I'm just wondering whether or not it is necessary to bring up those things.

 

Well , if you want to ban or suspend someone for off topic....if you've got the itch. Look no further than the Discussion II About the Suspension list thread. It has been blatantly hijacked with talk of Shacklefords favorite subject...strip clubs. Have at it. Start with him and work down to the other dozen offenders. The rules have been broken over and over and it is allowed if the 'right' members do the offending.

On a related note, the sanctioned, systematic intimidation of Nathan appears to be working. He hasn't posted since April 28th. Good job!

 

If you'll review the thread, you'll see I tossed out soft Warnings for both strong profanity and a separate personal insult. This is all within a few hours. I generally do not Ban for Off-Topic alone, but in conjunction with the other offenses, I would.

 

Mission/Fisk, neither of you owe any of these peckerwoods any explanation about anything going on elsewhere. Let the little turds keep crying like little babies.

 

Necessary to bring up Paigowdan? That's who he was. Are you suggesting to just sweep him under the rug?

I was impressed that, out of all the pitiful wannabes on WoV, that he got his invention into casinos and was making a profit. I thought he had made it and was living well....high rise, new cars etc. Imagine my surprise when I read this very insensitive quote about Paigowdan and his wife on your forum. And you're right...he can't respond. "They were going through some tough times financially." Just what his grieving widow needs...for the whole world to read that. Would you caution that person to tone it down?

 

No, because it could be helpful for people to know that in terms of maybe taking up some kind of collection.

Also, to earlier, real reverend, fake reverend or no reverend...if you have a group of people coming together to remember someone, that's a good thing.

 

I don't know much about him except he worked in a casino, apparently; would one of his benefits be a life insurance policy?

If so, the missus shouldn't need to have "the tin cup" passed on her behalf.

 

Long term, no, but it's like having a house fire when you have homeowner' insurance. There's procedural stuff. It's not like death today check tomorrow.

 

Coincidence First time I met Dan in person, I ordered Prime Rib, Dan got some sort of pasta. He said he had a heart attack recently and doctor told him no meat. Last PM was after I saw recent video link on WOV and told him looked like he had gained about 20lbs. He said he was back on his diet. See several post about Dan just taking casino line about AP WRONG He believed AP's are cheaters. Softened in last few years to Rule breakers. Ha-ha.
I tried keep my (oops I mean had a friend ronnief)post about Dan. Tried to keep it all about Dan, but at same time could not quite do it.
MICKEY Toughest freight train you ever tried to ride is abstinence. HAND ON THERE Don't let it throw you !
Face that sad ending is now a nightmare, worse than I ever thought of

DAMN DAN LUBIN IS DEAD

 

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

 

Yeah, life is sort of hopeless when the two sides of gambling appear to be the casinos and the players. Tin-cup territory and spirit.

 

What's the best thing to tell an atheist? You'll feel better in the next life.

 

I read your post on WOV. You were a true friend to Paigowdan.

If Shackleford really wanted to honor Paigowdan he could allow banned members to pay their tributes by temporarily lifting their bans for this unprecedented situation. How about it, Mr Wizard? Can you put your ego and pettiness aside for a few days? Can you allow Paigowdan's friends to pay their final respects? I can think of at least three that would like to.

 

Meanwhile, the Reverend DJTeddybear is en route from Newark to perform the service at "Mikes house". He now signs his posts Reverend Dave Miller. Too funny...but his hearts in the right place.

 

Shackleford took it upon himself to post some information about Paigowdan on WOV including a link to both Dan's and Dan's wife's face book pages. I had some time so I read Paigowdan's which goes back several years. It seems the poor guy was plagued with heart problems for a while.

He posted on Aug 11, 2009 that he was admitted to the hospital with chest pains that required angioplasty. Then on April 4, 2012 he posted that he had his FOURTH heart attack.

Two WoVers left messages on the face book page, Geoff Hall and a moderator who probably doesn't want HER name mentioned.