Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Posters implied they ignored my DT Happy Birthday Thread to Babs because I had started it but implied they would have responded had someone else started it.

 

My problem on WOV was admitting that I was desperate to fit in there, look more serious, more mature, and look like an AP. The beginning of the end for me was talking some morbid thing I had heard about in the newsI(it was really shocking and appalling) thinking I'd get brownie points for how mature and serious I was coming across, but I got scolded for being morbid. I did not get the brownie points I was looking for. I then talking shit about games I actually loved(Slots and Lottery), knowing that WOV Members look down on them. I hated talking shit about games I loved but thought I'd get brownie points by sounding like an AP. It didn't work. I remember Posters saying something like,"I knew this would turn out bad for Nathan when she begun trying to talk like an AP and admitting she was desperate to fit in, and to to be seen as more mature and serious." They were right. My Steve Cyr was one of my genuine pissed off and completely serious threads where I was absolutely not trying to fit in and get brownie points. I was really mad that Cyr helped cause his Client's gambling related suicides and brushed it off as just being business. I was also mad when I pointed out in another completely serious thread that losers who go around shooting random people for their 15 minutes of fame(A Some people admitted they shot randomness opeoiple for their 15 minutes of fame)needed to go find something good to get that 15 minutes of fame not shoot random people.

 

More proof that the WoV "boys" can't live without Nathan. They mentioned her in a half dozen various posts just yesterday....four in the "Might Be in Fl in March" thread alone. The usual suspects...PokerGrinder and AxelWolf... who took a break from his disturbing and creepy gay fetish just to remember Nathan.

It's unfortunate because Nathan knows a lot about the casinos that the OP had inquired about. She would have been able to give very good advice...something severely lacking on that *gambling* forum. Instead she gets dumped on when she can't respond as the mods look the other way. Brave boys.

 

Your Gambling Questions Thread was also really good. Had you started a lot more threads like that I think you would have been more accepted on WOV.

 

Look on the bright side. Your DT Happy Birthday Thread to BBB is still active to this day whereas The one on WOV was closed after a short while after causing a permenant nuke/permenant resignation(Kubiklan) and a kind Semi Resignation(Even Bob, which is shocking because EB is the Poster with the most posts on WOV and was literally seen as the top poster on the Forum front page until his kind of semi Resignation. ) I think now Axelwolf(Who is actually the Second Poster with the most posts looks like the top poster on the forum front page). So at least your HB thread isn't closed.

 

About Mickeycrimm. If things really did go South for him after his heart attack(Meaning he died), I'm sure we would see some sort of Obituary about him, something like,"Mickey John Crimm passed away after a fatal heart attack on November 11,2019. He is survived by his Spouse, his children, and grandchildren." The Family is preparing final burial arrangements. "He is big in the Gambling World so no way would we not see some sort of Obituary about him by now. When Dan Lubin died his Obituary was up the day or after the day he died IIRC. And Dan Lubin was also big in the Gambling world. I think if anything, Mickey is resting comfortably(But still alive) in his hospital room or maybe already at home getting a lot of rest. After an almost fatal encounter like a heart attack if you survive, you want to be resting, not posting on websites and social media.

 

As of this very moment there are exactly 18,000 members on WoV. What a great milestone!

Please join me in welcoming that 18,000th member...vansmith. Vansmith didn't waste any time as he hit the hallowed WoV ground running. Not one quality post but two quality posts selling a variety of fake documents. Kudos to vansmith for finding the one site where he can get away with it. It reminds me of the beggars who leave a mark on the houses that give to them so the other beggars will know.

So a fake member selling fake documents on a fake 'gambling' board. You go, vansmith. You may end up banned when one of the incompetent mods gets a private message from loyal cult members who think they're protecting "Mike's house" but you will forever be counted as a WoV member.

This is a great opportunity for the degenerate WoV gambling addicts who can't wait for today's football games to start...simply bet on how long vansmith's posts will stay up.

 

And he's gone. Luckily WoV monitors this site 24/7 to get the real scoops... so someone ran back to those in charge.

Vansmith's profile says he's a "restricted user." Translation: he can never participate on WoV again....as vansmith. Anyone else would just wipe him off the site but not the insecure WoV that desperately needs bragging rights of a high membership.

They call him a member to falsely inflate the stats....so what if he was only a member for 2 seconds? He will be forever declared a member in the annals of WoV. (Annal, Axel. Don't get excited.)

Vansmith's profile says he started 2 threads and made 2 posts...which he did. Click on either of those, however and it says that he has not started any threads or made any posts. The dishonesty and the outright lies are the height of hypocrisy for the "man of integrity." Not an oversight either as this is repeated thousand upon thousands of times there.

Liar, liar...cargo pants on fire!

 

Well well well. It looks like banned members can return to WoV. It seems that MidwestPlayer has been quietly been reinstated...not that he would care. He was banned for being a 'sock'...an outrageous and blatant, lie. In the last thread started by MidwestPlayer, Wizard/Sad Shack has now drawn a line through the words "sock puppetry" and MidwestPlayer's name is no longer in red.

No apology...no I was wrong...just the man of integrity slinking around behind the scenes in the underhanded manner that we're all now accustomed to. I bring this up not only because it's newsworthy but to wonder aloud if there is hope for Nathan. The precedent has been set. Afterall...Nathan is good enough to be on DT.

Does Wizard have to work at making a fool of himself or does it just come naturally?

 

This is interesting freddy. I have known since my incident at WoV, that wizard is unable or unwilling to publicly admit that he is wrong or may have acted on something without knowing all the facts. That is why I released some of his private communications with me where he did admit things that he could not bring himself to admit publicly. That is a pretty insecure person. I am glad for Midwest player though. He did nothing wrong (other than mention my name) and should have the opportunity to participate at WoV if he so desires.

 

Mickey Crimm is not the real name of this person. Most real advantage players do not post under their real names. I seem to recall that he chose the name Mickeycrimm because it was a character in a book that he liked, although I have not been able to find any reference of that. So there would be no obituary under that name. Rob Singer and Axelwolf have his phone number as they both began communicating with Mickey earlier this year during the Singer double up bug claim. So far their attempts to contact him through his phone have gone unanswered.

I have no idea if either Axelwolf or Singer knows his real name. If they do I would assume they have looked for some sort of obituary in the Montana region.

I don't believe mickeycrimm was ever married, nor has any kids or grandkids. He certainly has never made mention of this and he has been pretty open about his life. He was a homeless, transient, alcoholic for much of his adult life, which is why it makes what he did in the last decade or so, of turning his life around and quitting drinking, so impressive. If he is infact "gone" it is a shame he didn't have more time for this part of his life that he seemed to enjoy so much.

As has been mentioned, Mickey did speak of sisters, I though I recalled one in Texas and one in the neaothwest, like Washington state. He would mention that he had visited with them when he traveled through those areas playing. He also made mention of neices and nephews a couple times. I assume these would be the children of these sisters. I could be wrong but I got the impression he wasn't really close to any of these family members. Just an occasional visit when he was in that area. I had never heard him mention parents that were recently mentioned in Alaska.

My point being, that the person we all knew as Mickey Crimm, lived a rather solitary life. Again, he was pretty open about that. So unless Axelwolf or Rob get through to either Mickey himself or maybe some distance family member answering his phone, I am not sure those of us in the forums will get confirmation of anything. There is no comparison to Dan Lubin, who knew people off the forums, has family ect.

 

In looking to confirm this freddy, and it does look like MidwestPlayer was rightfully re-instated, I was taken to MidwestPlayers final post before he was banned. He started a thread and poll entitled "should KewlJ be re-instated". Funny Stuff!

So at the time Midwest was banned and accused of being a sock puppet, I remember that the poll was 4-1 in favor of re-instatement. I never checked back assuming the poll would be shut down. I guess I should offer credit due that it wasn't. So that poll now results in 19 yes KewlJ should be re-instated and 4, no he should be banned.

I mean lets put this into perspective. Nearly 5 years after my banning, the membership at WoV, which for the most part are admirers and followers of Michael Shackleford, overwhelmingly, by a 5-1 margin still (5 years later) believes he was wrong. It is a real shame this guy Shackleford, a mathematical genius in the gambling world, is just so insecure he can't bring himself to publicly admit when he is wrong. THAT is just sad, when everybody else and I mean EVERYBODY else knows it.

But he still has his "buddy" Norm (QFIT) by his side. Oh wait....QFIT hasn't contributed a damn thing in several years now, once he used Mike and got what he wanted. Good call Wizard....good call!

 

KewlJ, your third paragraph sums it up perfectly. Here is an abbreviated definition of narcissism:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships and a lack of empathy for others. There are many examples throughout the forum:

>>>Calls himself a dictator.

>>>Said he would like to lead a cult.

>>>Wants to purchase people's souls.

>>>Maintains a suspension list for the sole purpose of shaming...exacting revenge.

The forum is full of his selfish, misguided thoughts and ideas.

Welcoming you and others back would be a significant boost to WoV but that petty little man can't/won't do the right thing. It's what's best for the board but he'd rather show a total disregard for the owners and the members as he continues to make it about him and only him.

 

"Petty" really is the word to describe Michael Shackleford.

 

Actually many of us do know Mickey and love the guy and have his phone number. And we pray he is ok. Do you really think we haven’t contacted hospitals by his home trying to help if possible?

Pathetic you showed up for this KJ.

And can you discuss why you were banned from WoV for the 832nd time?

 

I feel bad for Wizard. Did a favor for his Friend and was then left high and dry for several years after doing exactly what his Friend asked him to do and probably wasn't even thanked. Wizard was used big time. His friend played him big time. You should be allowed back on WOV since it is obvious Wizard was just being played into banning you from WOV and DT.

 

Mickey Crimm twittered 8 hours ago..."still kicking."

 

There is a thread on WoV about Mickey Crimm's heart attack. Most of the posters sent him well wishes for a speedy recovery. One member requested that Mickey's ban be lifted so he could return.

Wizard worshiper DRich posted: "I hope he doesn't." Then a little later he doubles down with: I wouldn't want the Wizard to invite him back." We get it DRich...you don't want him back. So much so that D(umb) Rich broke Forum Rule 5: "Do not post the same message more than once."

OnceDear...you want to get this one? A 3 day suspension? Oh...you're too afraid. Blabs? Oh DRich is a friend. Sad Shack? Nevermind.

Again, this is a thread about wishing Mickey well. How in the world did AxelWolf manage to work Nathan's name into it? Amazing that this guy's entire life revolves around Nathan. Nathan is in his head 24/7. He screams Nathan's name when he makes love to his wife....or to PokerGrinder. Too funny.

Since the incompetent mods all have short attention spans...I'll say it again. DRich broke ruke 5. Go get him!

 

There are several posts by Mickey Grimm right here at the Video Poker forum .