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Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

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  1. Ozzy

    Ozzy Well-Known Member

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    You have to be trolling with number 7.
     
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  2. KewlJ

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    (reprint of my post from VCT)

    The nondisclosure agreement (NDA) between Shackleford and Mdawg reared it's ugly head again today. In a discussion about Mdawg's preposterous claim of winning 60 rounds of blackjack in a row, which he is now altering and trying to backtrack on, Shackleford revealed that the NDA made this past spring, forbids him from commenting on this new claim. So this NDA restricts Shackleford from saying anything, any opinion that might be construed as negative about Mdawg and his claims, past, present or FUTURE. Wizard is bought and paid for. Mdawg can claim he plays a pure martingale and it works 100% of the time and Wizard is restricted from saying anything.

    I call that SELLING OUT on the part of one Michael Shackleford. His expertise on gambling math is what gives him credibility as the arbitrator, the referee of these things. He has sold that credibility, if not for money which is my guess, then your guess is as good as mine. And that makes Mr. Shackleford, as complicit in this scam as Mdawg. Michael Shackleford has now in no uncertain terms joined the likes of Mdawg, Rob Singer and others in their bullshit claims that defy math, and reality. No other way to say it. :mad:
     
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  3. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    I propose a new title for Mr. Shackleford: THE WIZARD OF SCAMS and sellout.
     
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  4. Tater

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    MDAWG. MY friend starts at $25 then doubles for each lost hand. IF HE lost 6 hands in a row then he is putting out $1600. I've seen him do it. PLUS get a blackjack on a $1600 bet. He is a lucky fuker and a piss cutter. But did win 12 out of 13 sessions. However, his exit profits fluctuate.

    IF he wins a hand his bet reverts back to $25. Financially speaking, even if he did win 60 in a row. 59 would be at bet minimum. NO?

    What are your exit points?
     
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  5. redietz

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    Hey freddy, I'm a little busy with football. If you can, lift my post responding to kewlJ over at VCT (7823) and post it here.

    Over and out, guys.
     
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  6. KewlJ

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    "whoever Buzz was/is", hun? o_O

    Actually what this action does is prove that Mdawg is a re-incarnated sockpuppet of a former member, because Buzz was nuked years before this version of Mdawg joined the forum. Unless you want to believe that this multi-millionaire, who has been comped a high end suite for 7 months now while winning what, nearly a million dollars, spends that time in that suite, mulling through years old posts on a message board forum. Yeah that is what people comped suites in Vegas do with their time in their suites. :rolleyes:

    Stupid fuk Mdawg doesn't even realize he just outed himself. :D
     
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  7. Tater

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    Over the last 93 sessions I've worked about 6000 hands and up $6700.

    MY FRIEND won 12 out of 13. MY GUESS IS played AROUND 1500 HANDS with little thought and is up $9000.
     
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  8. KewlJ

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    I know Alan over at WoV is a favorite punching bag for many (even myself at times) because of his 18 y.o. claim. He brings some of that on himself. But I really hate Alan's 18 y.o. in a row claim being linked to Mdawgs 60 wins in a row at BJ claim, (which Mdawg is already retracting and altering).

    Alan, is a gambler. I will leave out the "D" word description before gambler, as that is not important for this discussion. Let's just say recreational gambler, who really enjoys gambling and spends and has spent a great deal of time doing so. :rolleyes:

    So Alan has seen all kind of things, some that seem to impress him, when others might not see it that way. And as tends to happen, sometimes these people, "mis-remember" things, thinking or remembering a bit more than actually happened. This is known as selective memory. Usually, they are not intentionally lying or out to hurt anybody. They just remember it the way they remember it and it might not be the way it actually went down. I believe that is Alan in this instance to a tee.

    Now Mdawg is a guy, with one unlikely claim after another. These people need and do escalate their claims to generate more and more attention, which is what they are really all about. His claims are growing and growing and escalating and this 60 wins in a row is just the latest and least likely of many.

    But here is the big difference, unlike Alan who isn't intentionally lying or out to hurt anyone, people like Mdawg are intentionally lying and they are out to mislead people. Alan, even with his innocent exaggeration should be welcome on any gambling related forum, Mdawg with his intent to deceive, mislead and hurt people should not.
     
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  9. redietz

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    I'm not sure if any of the math geniuses at WoV bothered to point out that there is a massive and fundamental difference between claiming to have WITNESSED something (like Alan) and claiming to have something happen to oneself (like MDawg). If you are simply in the presence of things happening to all other people and yourself, that is a much wider mathematical net than what happens exclusively to you.

    I didn't see this simple, obvious difference mentioned on WoV. Something happening to you and/or anyone in your presence is massively more likely than something happening to you.

    But what do I know? I'm not a wizard of odds. I just gamble seriously.

    And I would like to note that when something so outrageous as winning "60-some" or "some 60" consecutive blackjack hands gets stated, the appropriate tone would be to treat it like winning a lottery, rather than something over which you somehow had some effect. The implication that not only did you do it, but that you were somehow responsible, is comical.
     
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  10. Punkcity

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    I don’t read that other forum, so I ask was it
    60 HANDS straight won
    Or
    60 SESSIONS straight won ?

    The sessions would be doable with effort, imho hands straight x 60 won possibly we are lucky enough to have encountered the once in a universe historically documented event.

    Possibly.
    I err on the side of caution on that one, as the birth of Jesus son of god would certainly rank higher and validated imho. Cheers
     
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  11. redietz

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    Originally it was hands. Now he's walking it back because evidently he didn't anticipate the type of response he would get. So now it's been reduced to "won x amount flat betting in 60-some hands maybe losing a hand or two or three," but the math for the amount won claims doesn't work, either.

    The whole thing is just stupid. Can you imagine if I went around saying I won 60 straight football wagers, which is technically easier because at least it's a game of opinion, not pure math. And then I walked it back by saying, well, I lost one or two or maybe three in there.

    It's just asinine. What's most asinine is that people are supposed to be respectful when addressing the claims, so one is not allowed to refer to the claims as "lying." I'm sure people would be real respectful if I said I won 60 consecutive football wagers.

    And then he tries to say, well, a particular historic event in Las Vegas gambling history allegedly occurred, so if that alleged once in LV history event happened, surely the same thing could have happened to me.

    Yeah, and the waters parted for Moses, so that'll be the next trick.
     
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  12. Punkcity

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    60 football games very doable imho, please consider the following scenario

    USA has 100 plus college football teams plus 34 nfl teams let’s just say 134 football team play this weekend, to pick 60 wins is possible, very very hard but definitely possible someone in the last hundred plus years for the 17 week season minimum managed to jag a 50% strike rate.
    Surly from the millions of workers that partake in the office/workplace tipping competition across USA alone, someone has jagged it. Cheers
     
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  13. KewlJ

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    Come on...60 straight winning football games? We aren't talking about huge money line favorites and even 60 straight of those would be a long shot. So you think someone picking a 60 team parlay vs points is doable? I'll bet there is no record of it ever being done.

    And blackjack, which the claim actually is about isn't even a 50/50 proposition. Players only win about 42% of the time at blackjack. :eek:

    Now lets get real with this. Alan has been around on forums for a long time. Has he ever made a claim as unlikely as this? That tells me he is not about making outrageous claims....he is just remembering the facts of this incorrectly. He probably really believes that is what he saw, that is why he hasn't backed down. Second thing is Alan's claim involves no money. He wasn't betting and made no money. He wasn't even playing. He just believes that is what he saw.

    Now compare that to Mdawg. Mdawgs claim is that he won first 60 hands in a row, now to whatever he has changed it to, in the process of winning 70 grand. 70 Grand!! Every single one of Mdawgs claims is about him winning huge money. Anyone that doesn't see a red flag on that, isn't looking objectively. That is what the guy is and he has to escalate his claims to get the same attention he craves. With this one, he just bit off more than he realized and even Wizard, who has an agreement to protect his had to call BS.
     
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  14. Punkcity

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    Didn’t mention parlay at all , try comprehend what you read. I mentioned tipping competition workplace not parlay ticket at bookies. I made no reference to anyone else ie mdawge, you, alam read the post get it right.
    I respect your opinion it can’t be done but last time I checked you weren’t the “Central Scrutiniser” and therefore you have only AN opinion ONLY, not a factual certainty that no one has jagged 60 wins in a workplace tipping competition in the history of the league.
    As for the rest of your post it doesn’t collate to my post. So I will disregard it. Cheers
     
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  15. KewlJ

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    And by the way, let's discuss how casinos really work. What do you think a casino would do if a player were to win 60 hands in a row betting $800 which was Mdawgs original claim. Forget the part that 60 hands @ $800 doesn't really add up to 70 grand even allowing for blackjacks, splits and double downs.

    So player winning every hand. After about 15 rounds they would change dealers. A few more rounds and they would change the cards. They are going to immediately be concerned with hole-carding, which will facilitate probably several dealer changes. No casino and no pit person is going to just sit there and allow a player to win 60 hands in a row. :confused: That is just crazy talk, but everything this Mdawg person posts is crazy talk, including all the dealers and pit folks pulling for him and frequently telling him "he is the best ever". The kind of things Mdawg claims could cost people their jobs.

    But whatever. There doesn't seem to be anyone able or willing to stop these claims. Next he will tell us that because he is a high roller, his casino host secured him a spot on the next Bezo space flight and that Mdawg has requested a private table so he can play blackjack in space. For those waiting for the next chapter...sorry to have spilled the beans. o_O
     
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  16. KewlJ

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    There is no difference. A parley is picking multiple winners. So I used parley card as an example. Doesn't matter. No one has ever picked 60 straight games against the spread. And no one has won 60 straight hands of blackjack. Wizard gave you the odds. 1 in 89,412,355,233,588,500. do you know what that number is? it is 1 in 89 quadrillion.

    Oh but Mdawg did it, won 70 grand and the casinos didn't care one bit. Just told him he was the best ever and comped him a floor in the hotel for a year. Because THAT is the way the casino industry works. :D

    Come on man....this is Twilight Zone stuff.
     
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  17. Punkcity

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    Look your obsession with mdawge is pathological, nowhere did I reference his supposedly 60 hands win in my last two posts, Your obsession with the smell of his shit is pretty boring imho.
    Get your comprehension skills in order.
    Get your context of the original post in order.

    I for one would not post so much about someone that obviously lives in ones head as much as mdawge lives in yours, he is balls deep in you mister and luckily for you , you only have two holes to get air tight on, I’m sure you are familiar with the term. Cut back on the lube as you are slithering across your keyboard , again!
    The wizard told me nothing, your statement on my post is off topic, I don’t mention parlay in original post , you lack of intelligence is astonishing.
    As for picking 60 straight games check this 9B271188-ADFF-47FA-B546-0CEECCA0FCFE.png
    Then in a crossover time frame this 87681910-63B1-424C-9535-D590E2A534F9.jpeg
    Just by supporting only one team one achieve 59 straight wins oh and throw a continuation from 1916 to 1918 on another team, can’t be done ?

    your problem is mdawge

    Go and get a tattoo of how you hate mdawge on each hand and one across your face so when you jerk off with either hand you can get the message across to yourself constantly. Then every time you look in the mirror you can remind yourself how he’s in your head.

    you are fixated so I would assume your day job , card counter is it ? Must be suffering.
    You are now an expert on all things mdawge, post in posts that discuss him or his antics not in posts that don’t, you are posting off topic.

    You ability to Categorically state with UTMOST CERTAINTY that no one could get a straight run of wins in college football says a lot about your ability to be successful in your day to day endeavours.
    Perhaps you should stay with your constant whining about mdawge as you seem to be a failure ( only my limited opinion) in everything else I read about you , by you or directed to you.
    The sooner you are able to turn your boring ( to me at least) obsession with mdawge into a making money venture the better it will be in keeping you from the poor house. I certainly hope you find something. My pet dog chews on a stick. Cheers
     
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  18. KewlJ

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    Are you really this stupid? Football games are wagered against the spread! Just because a team win the game does not mean they covered and won the bet.

    An example would be the 2007 New England Patriots had a record of 18-1. However if you were to have wagered on the Patriots every game you would have lost money as they covered the spread 10 times and didn't cover 9 times, meaning you would have won 10 wagers and lost 9. Football wagering has nothing to do with who wins the game.

    So 60 straight against the spread can no more happen than Mdawgs claim of 60 straight winning blackjack hands. a 1 in 89 quadrillion chance.

    As for me, don't you worry yourself. I am having a very nice year. Significantly above expectation or EV. So take your "cheers" and shove it up your ass, "mate".
     
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  19. Punkcity

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    Comprehension, comprehension pull your head out of your arse PRINCESS
    I didn’t discuss wager, parlay, spread .

    The post was picking 60 games

    The post was not about mdawge, you made it about mdawge AGAIN in THIS NEW POST, he is puppetry your skanked up arse from here to woopwoop, the way you are reacting it’s like he’s deeper than balls deep as he hammer time your body openings across the interverse.
    As for sports betting you have no clue , try money line moron, stick to your poor me card count and continue to bitch like an old hag how you face impossible odds staying under the radar.
    I used to think zenking was a returd I’m pretty sure you are getting as bad and that sunshine is pretty low thing to say about someone.
    So spend some time, cup you poxy sack in one hand and go elbows deep with the other and see if you can feel mdawge forskin inside your brain box
    MATE
    Lol dumb arse.
     
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  20. KewlJ

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    WRONG! The post made by redietz above was "Can you imagine if I went around saying I won 60 straight football wagers". Football wagers are against the point spread. THAT is what was being discussed. Ask redietz.

    You come up with something completely irrelevant and unrelated, a team winning 39 straight games a century ago. Had nothing to do with what was being discussed.

    Is this a freaking gambling forum where people know what they are talking about or is this some sort of knitting club?

    Now winning 60 straight football wagers, just like winning 60 straight hands of blackjack didn't happen. It is a 1 in 89 quadrillion chance. End of story.
     
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