1. Welcome to the #1 Gambling Community with the best minds across the entire gambling spectrum. REGISTER NOW!
  2. Have a gambling question?

    Post it here and our gambling experts will answer it!
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Discussions in this section are assumed to be EV- as they are outside of the Advantage Play section. For EV+ discussions, please visit the Advantage Play section.
    Dismiss Notice

Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

This is a Designated Unrestricted Area and is moderated more lightly and may therefore contain more offensive language. Reader beware.
  1. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    WHAT would KJ do in a world without Mdawg, Zenking, and Singer?

    Hmm. Actually play blackjack.?
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  2. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2015
    Likes:
    1,072
    Location:
    Las Vegas

    What would Moses do without KJ and the obsessing you do 24/7, worrying about how and when I play.
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  3. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    Play blackjack. Watch sports at home and with the guys in casinos. Spend time with my lady. Go to movies, concerts, and out to eat. OR EAT IN and watch a movie.. Talk/text with my kids. Workout.

    IT seems odd the ultimate fraud is calling others a fraud. THEN gets himself so worked up he can't perform his alleged profession. Lmao.

    WHAT a McGoo.

    MY biggest decision today will be where to watch the Dodger game and play blackjack.

    KJ will spend his worrying about ZenKing. AND trying to help. Lmao
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2021
    beachedwhale likes this.
  4. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2015
    Likes:
    1,072
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Dude, you have made 7 posts here today in the last 5 and a half hours (it is currently noon). Almost every one is about or references me.

    Now look at WoV, where you are an active member. For 5 years you almost never posted. When I started posting, boom, you became very active. And we even had some good blackjack discussions mixed in among your games. When I decide to stop participating there because I don't appreciate Shackleford protecting Mdawg who is misleading and intentionally trying to harm players, guess what, you have also disappeared. Why aren't you there engaging in blackjack or other discussion. The answer is because you are obsessed with me. That is all you are interested in and posting about. So I try to accommodate you by posting here when I can.

    That fact is I pam out and play blackjack at least 5 hours a day 5 days a week. I mix it up to play different times and shifts. And when I am home, I am online a lot. Usually while watching sports or other TV. My brother and my boyfriend who I live with both are gamers and spend all there free time gaming in the living room. I am not a gamer, so I watch sports and am online. why is that any of your concern? Oh that's right, I almost forgot, you concern yourself because of this KJ obsession.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2021
    beachedwhale likes this.
  5. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    SIMPLY put. YOU called me out. PUT UP or Shut up.
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  6. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    5 hours 5 days a week to equal 75k hands annually? 60 hands an hour which includes lunch, typing essays, and getting to a variety of casinos.

    No clue, McGoo!:rolleyes:
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  7. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2015
    Likes:
    1,072
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    That is right. Why are you concerning yourself with it?

    For most of my time here in Vegas I played 75-80 thousand rounds a year, which is about 300 rounds a day. My EV was just a little north of $1 per round for all games combined.

    Obviously this year and last have been different. I have increased my stakes and some other things I do and am getting the same EV at considerable less rounds played. Of course the down side of that is increased variance. That bit me in the ass last year as I had a downturn immediately after increasing stakes that I really never recovered from with the fewer rounds played. This year (so far) that very thing is working in my favor.

    But really how I play is none of your business. Ordinarily I am happy to share what I am doing, but with you, you have proven you just want to troll and try to use things against me, so I don't bother. I no longer consider you a serious player worthy of me sharing my experiences with. You are just an obsessed troll that I humor in my spare time.
     
    Punkcity and beachedwhale like this.

  8. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    Because it's a lie. Seems like you have some kind of illness or surgery annually.

    You spend more time reading, preparing responses, and writing on forums than many people do at their regular jobs.

    THE TOP dog at a large casino makes $164k a year. A DEALER makes around $15 an hour.

    SO we are supposed to believe a highly emotional nervous forum writer in everyone's biz with only a HS school education makes $100k a year for 18 years with a count so simple a first grader could do it? Working less than 25 hours a weak.

    ..And you're the primary one calling out MDawg from a forum you've been banned more times than a HI Lo'er can count?

    WHY don't you come clean and tell the truth. That would be far more interesting than your fantasy dream life.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2021
    beachedwhale likes this.
  9. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    It's takes a cool, calm, collected, sensible approach to not get killed at blackjack.

    This speaks to why you would rather lie and call people out on forums than play the game.

    You're an emotional train wreck. Essay after essay.
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  10. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2020
    Likes:
    1,287
    Occupation:
    CEO, manager of sublease my account name.inc
    Location:
    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    ARE

    YOU

    STUPID

    ARE

    SIMPLE

    IN

    THE

    HEAD?

    where in any of my posts have I claimed ANY team has won against the spread ?

    Where you fool ?

    Read the original post , take your defective head out of your anus.

    I have not made a challenge to you you fool. Yet here you are pulling a random fuk rag out of the eye of your cock.

    Read the original post

    OR

    Are you going off track and issue me with another challenge from your fictional reading ability?
    What’s the new challenge list 10 winner games where the final touchdown was scored by a blind man with one fist up his own anus? Oh and you want that against the spread also.
    Pathetic dweb

    Read the post you fool , you really are just embarrassing yourself, re list my original post in your next address to me and point out where I challenge you or your ability against the spread, point out where I claim it’s a parlay, point out where I have made a reference to mdawge, you or anyone else.
    Read the post
    If this is also an indication of your comprehension abilities , how the hell do you process sports information to make a living. Just think if you could actually mentally grasp things quickly you may have been successful.
    Read the post and dream up another fictional challenge dumb fuk.

    Oh and coach and everyone else et. APPARENTLY if you bet money line ( not sure why bookies offer it must be a sucker bet) according to the DIeTz you don’t know how to bet,

    Just imagine the ridiculous challenges he would come up with if anyone mentioned betting under or overs , obviously another sucker bet offered worldwide in all betting agencies, why he’ll that would make bookies trolls.
    Go have a nap you old fool Diet Coke no ice with a hint of decay.
    Enjoy your day
    Cheers
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  11. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2020
    Likes:
    1,287
    Occupation:
    CEO, manager of sublease my account name.inc
    Location:
    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    The part of this post I’m responding to is in defending kewlj. Not the other crap part.
    As a professional gambler many do go through form slumps, I have , he is , and many other readers have done and will do so in the future. There is a release mechanism that each must find in one OWN-SELF , what works for me may not work for the next person.
    As kewlj has admitted he’s at a slump , in that regard we , you , me should cut the man some slack and offer support if needed or if he’s willing to accept advice, support and or possible methods to reverse that mental and emotional slide he finds himself on. We have been there before and I’m sure we have all benefited from some assistance in our past.

    The rest of his post/posts are a smoke screen of a drowning man, re the trolling, bitter posts to other posters , the lashing out etc. He , imho , is caught up in his self perpetuating avalanche and unable at the moment to stop the spiralling momentum he finds himself in.
    In general I don’t post to the man( I don’t initiate first blood, but if I have point out the post to me ) unless he has taken issue with me over something or other and has had a attempted bitch slapathon with me. I tend to read most threads this forum hence I read his by default.
    I admit I can be heavy handed in my reply but that’s a skipptophia thing I guess, go hard , go big , drop the other guy , go home , it’s beer o’clock time.

    Kewlj , imho , if you drop the other stuff you post about, the to whom’s , the why fors , the because it’s X person is wrong or you don’t like persons X though to Z and just let it rest from your focus and actually paid more attention to other more important things like your job( card count) your actual friends in the real 3D world and not some randoms on the interverse.
    You , imho, will go along way to righting your professional ship and getting your confidence back , developing your bankroll again and getting back to living your dream. This is where you choose to be self disciplined or not. You are not hurting anyone here on this interverse any more than the damage you are doing to yourself.

    This post to you is offered with the best intent and I’m not setting you up for a sucker punch. It’s up to you if you accept it graciously or not .
    Enjoy your day, we have all been there , but only you can choose to start helping yourself when you’re ready.
    Cheers
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  12. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2015
    Likes:
    1,072
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Punkcity, I appreciate the tone of your post, more civil. However, I don't know where you are getting your information. I am having a very good year. It was last year 2020 that I had kind of a lousy year, severely under-performing expectation.

    You probably think that I am currently struggling because people like Mdawg and tater, repeat the lie that I am. And that is why I respond.
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  13. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2020
    Likes:
    1,287
    Occupation:
    CEO, manager of sublease my account name.inc
    Location:
    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    Yes that was my assumption, my bad , my apologies, as for letting others push your button, put them on ignore,or don’t instigate first contact and even better don’t reply. Mostly it appears to be a futile endeavour, Mho.

    Actually I’m usually very civil, as a rule and I do restrain myself in many of my replies as I can let rip at a moment notice, funny also , but to your credit you haven’t gone down the report to admin rat road and you do go toe to toe . I don’t mind being redacted by admin but it does cut some very funny posts out, so I’m more so inclined to pull a few outrageous sentences from the interverse domain in an effort to amuse and retain content flow. Bit like taking ones time to hammer a nail into the coffin lid rather than using a nail gun. Even though both methods end result is a thing of beauty it’s the pleasure principle of the journey imho.
    All good
    Cheers
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  14. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    All I know is when someone comes at me I'm not backing up. THE Lies.

    I KNOW FOR AN ABSOLUTE FACT I was never in Vegas and don't know KJs name or where he Iives. THEREFORE, HOW COULD I possibly be the one in the nonsense he has perpetrated.

    IF I did? it wouldn't be my first rodeo.

    WITH THAT, how can anyone possibly believes anything he says.

    I'M SURE I woke up this morning in my house and type this from my recliner while drinking coffee.

    THUS IM NOT HOMELESS. NOT ON SOME GOVERNMENT income.

    WHEN you call someone out, you'd best be able to back it up. OTHERWISE, BE known as a gutless coward that lies to make himself look or feel better about his own lack of success and failure.
     
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2021
    beachedwhale likes this.

  15. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    KJ writes: (where is the rolling on the floor emoji??) Does anyone really believe I told Mdawg where I live? I told him what I wanted him to think and he obviously does.

    But regardless that I am always 3 steps ahead, the rest of this post is a desperate troll now threatening me. Administrators??

    Tater says: So in KJ's crazy internet universe. A homeless guy, 500 miles away, found him and visited his residence.

    BUT a rich guy, who is in Vegas, can't find him, even after KJ told him where he thinks he lives...BECAUSE he is 3 steps ahead.

    IF KJ simply played his own game and minded his own biz, he wouldn't have all this drama.

    THE way KJ carries on about MDAWG, why not simply make arrangements to witness his play.
    You're both in Vegas. NO?

    I couldn't care less whether KJ is having a good year or bad.
     
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2021
    beachedwhale likes this.
  16. Ozzy

    Ozzy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2016
    Likes:
    344
    Location:
    Detroit
    I believe Dog the Bounty Hunter will find the Unkool 1. He has a few details already at his disposal, not to mention unlimited funds and notoriety. Go get em Dogo Argentino( his 2 favorite people) :)
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  17. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    KJ has called out tons of people and even a casino or two on various forums. THE only thing that surprises me is that someone hasn't found him already.

    SO OZZY, I will bet you a beer no one finds him. HE'S EITHER AN elusive little shit or doesn't exist.
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  18. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2015
    Likes:
    1,072
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Tons of people? I have called out 4 players making claims that can't be. 3 of them, T3, Singer and Mdawg, the claims defied math. Later Mdawgs claims defied the way Las Vegas works. The 4th was you Moses. While your math works, a player just cannot play the limits you claim in a small low limit place like Reno day after day for years. I know because I am familiar with Reno and that was my exact issue back in Atlantic City. Even if the casino takes that kind of action, which Reno really doesn't except weekends, you just can't see and play with the same dealers, pit folks and surveillance every day. They aren't going to allow that.

    That is why what is left of pure professional card counters spread their play around. Many travel the country playing. I decided I didn't want to do that, be on the road all the time, so I moved to the place with the largest number of casinos and play a large rotation of casinos, and spread my play around different shifts at 30 some casinos, including being willing to play some very mediocre games.

    My calling out a few people that are making claims that can't be isn't really personal with me or at least doesn't start out that way. I believe real players that play for a living and math guys like Wizard should call out claims that are fantasyland, twilight zone stuff. It only becomes personal with me when these guys start attacking me and spreading lies. But that bullying and that is what it is, bullying in an attempt to get me to stop calling out their claims that can't be, isn't going to stop me from calling out claims that defy math and reality.

    And casinos? Hell yeah, If I find a casino that is cheating I will name them and what they are doing. I make no apology for that. I have done so 3 times. Two of them, I was right, one removed the 2 shuffle machines in question after my comments became widespread on several forums. The 3rd I was wrong. I had such a nasty run that I was sure they were cheating. Not just because of my results but their behavior. They were allowing me to play and spread when they are normally very sweaty and back off at the drop of a hat. Turns out I was wrong and said so. I just experienced a pretty nasty run.

    If I even think a casino is cheating, and I am not talking about Zenking who thinks he is being cheated every time he loses, but if I have a period of results that is so bad it is 4 or more standard deviations from normal, I will say something publicly. Let other card counters and players know, so they can be careful when playing and judge for themselves.

    Now it so happens that one of the places I called out, while they were cheating me, and every regular player, there was a small group of AP's that were able to turn what they were doing into an advantage without the casino having realized it. So me saying something and the casino pulling those machines, ended that play for those AP's. I regret that. Had I been smart enough to know that, I would have said nothing, but in general I make no apology for warning other players of possible cheating.
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  19. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2015
    Likes:
    1,072
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    And Moses, I don't care about your situation now. You say you are retired on social security. Good for you. Enjoy life. If you have a nice place to call home and lay your head....Good.

    My issue with you was that the limits you claim to play and amounts you claim to have made for as long as you claimed to have done so, can't be in Reno. Reno is a low limit place. Now I would have never said a word because at least your math works. If players want to embellish a little, whatever. That is for everyone to decide for themselves, if a certain player and his claims make sense. Just as long as the math works.

    I only said something about you after you repeatedly began attacking me. I don't care if people decide they don't believe me. People have that right. I always say "it doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". If you or anyone else decides I don't know what I am talking about, that is on you. :rolleyes: But it is your right to be wrong.

    But I am not going to have people lie about me, what I do, what I make, lies about my personal life and partner, without fighting back. And that is what YOU and others have done. It is so damn easy to spot, because you guys go right to homophobic attacks and name calling. And that tells me and everyone that your problem is about something else entirely. You should think about that.
     
    beachedwhale likes this.
  20. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Likes:
    823
    Location:
    Nevada
    Nonetheless you have ruined the game for me. BY CALLED out, I mean with your lies. WHY IN THE BluE FUCK can't you just play the game.
    WHAT MAKES YOU SO FUCKING special.?

    It's not easy. BUT IT CAN BE DONE. IT'S Called casino tolerance and staying within those boundaries. You make it even more difficult.

    IVE OFFERED TO PLAY you straight up in black chip. YOU REFUSE. I PLAY $25 TO $100 MIN.WITH A 1 TO 6 SPREAD. Rarely, 8.

    BUT YOU fuck it up. GETTING casino personell to believe you live in Vegas and make a living on shoes with HiLo.

    NO, I WILL never find you. BUT I will hold on to the belief that "what goes around, comes around" even for cowards like you.
     
    beachedwhale likes this.

Share This Page