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Kewlj :

Noun
1 Making false statements with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth.
2 Something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture:

 

Coach belly just flat out lied about what Wizard said. Nowhere and I mean nowhere did Wizard say a 1-50 spread would be allowed and happens in the context we are talking about. He specifically says the opposite. Wizard says it may be aloowed if the casino has determined the players is a "bad counter" meaning a losing player. Is that what we are talking about here? Mdawg is coach belly speaking for you in that you are a losing players? Contradicts what you have been telling us for 4 years now.

Below is what Wizard wrote word for word and as you can see, nowhere did he write what coach belly just mis-represented. I am also linking to the page (which I hope will be allowed so people can look for themselves.

Belly, this is one of the most dishonest things you have ever done in a long career of dishonest trolling. Shame on you.


I have been asked to comment on this post.

Before I do so, let me remind the forum of the liberal free speech policy. However, it's also allowed to call out incredible claims, like Alan's 18 yo's. Reminder also that while you can challenge a post, you can't insult the poster.

That said, this story I find hard to believe. A 50 to 1 spread in a double deck game, while counting? As a counter for 37 years now (man, I'm old), this already seems ridiculous. The only way it might be allowed was if the counter was a bad counter, which does happen.

If you were betting up to $5,000, I would expect wins to be paid in yellows, assuming that is as high as the chips went. To pay in ten purples when yellows are in the rack also doesn't seem believable.

Let's pay close attention to this part.

Quote: MDawg

"I jammed the bet whenever the count was high enough and my total recall of every card played and the sequence of the most recent cards out, told me to jam it up there".

Total recall of every card? Are you saying you have a Rain Man kind of ability to remember every card played?

The sequence of the most recent cards? This would seem to say you're either shuffle tracking or (must restrain myself here) have a baccarat-player like belief that the cards run in patterns. Which is it?

Finally the part about the rack not being refilled doesn't seem realistic. Maybe I could see this in a jurisdiction where it's illegal to back off counters. However, in Vegas, they either want your action or they don't. I will admit I've never played at a level where I was any threat to clean out the rack. At the level you claim to play, I don't see casinos using passive aggressive tactics like this. If they didn't want your action, they would just get of you and then put you in OSN or whatever database of cheats and advantage players casinos are using these days.

That said, I welcome your reply. Thank you.

The Adventures of MDawg II discussed in Betting Systems/Gambling at Wizard of Vegas - Page 353

 

This is in fact a lie. No where is there the above repeated lies definition for the 5 letter word kewlj.

additionally, isn't this repeating, repeating, repeating the same phrase and post exactly what you were banned for at VCT? I dont know the specific rules of that on this forum, but that is usually not tolerated on any forum.

 

What MDawg has done over the last several years is escalate the story and his abilities. It's as if:

Year One: I say I win 62% of my sports bets at beatable sports like college football and college hoops and occasionally hit a phantasmagoric future. Everyone cheers me on and gives me comps. I win 50 out of 52 weeks.
Year Two: I say I win 65% of my sports bets, plus I bet sports at which nobody wins long-term. Everybody still loves me. I get just as many comps.
Year Three: I let the cat out of the bag -- I am a mentalist. I can read players' body language before the games and know almost certainly who will win. I win 72% of my games ATS. I win 20 consecutive ATS games...twice. I am still comped out the wazoo. And I post publicly that I am a mentalist because nobody will figure out who I am.

And this is what somebody called "The Wizard of Vegas" lets ride on his forum. For years.

LOL.

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You know, the "Rain Man" story reminds me of something from my brief connect with Billy Walters. Mr. Walters would assemble roundtables of experts in each sport while usually keeping them separate from each other, the better to test them and prevent them from joining forces.

Anyway, one of the guys helping to assemble the roundtables was on the phone with me and was waxing eloquent about a particular "Rain Man" type of handicapper. He said the guy knew the high school career arc and year-to-year college history of virtually every player on every Division 1 team. I was supposed to be impressed. I said something like, "That's great. What good does that do?"

In other words, a raw skill set or knowledge data base is often a parlor trick to impress rather than a real useful tool.

 

The rainman thing is silly in this content. Mdawg is using that as a deversion away from what is really being challenged and questions. a $100-$5000 spread and any spread really for 10 straight hours.

Now if someone did have the ability to remember every card or near total recall, applying it as Mdawg claims he has would very stupid.

I beleive Tarzan claimed near total recall, which is what allowed him to develop and play a very specialized column type count. What this allowed him to do was play a smaller bet spread and win the same amounts as counters applying a much larger spread. This resulted in him playing Atlantic City near where he lived for decades basically unmolested, while he made a very comfortable living. That would be optimal use of such an ability.

 

MDawg didn't claim that he is a losing player, I didn't claim that he is a losing player, and The Wizard did not mention a losing player or "losing" anywhere in his post.

He didn't write "losing player", those are your words...not his.

What he did write is that it might be allowed, and it does happen.

I highlighted it in your quote to confirm that's what he wrote..

He also stipulated to the fact that he has no personal experience playing as MDawg does, so he references an imaginary scenario that clearly does not apply in the context we are talking about.

"I will admit I've never played at a level where I was any threat to clean out the rack."

 

Wizard wrtote: "The only way it might be allowed was if the counter was a bad counter, which does happen".

Coach belly left the whole sentence out about the "only way" and just quoted "which does happen". Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

 

I didn't leave anything out, nor did I add anything (like you did).

I posted the entire sentence, copied directly from your post.

The Wizard clearly stated that a 50-1 spread does happen.

Are you insisting that it doesn't happen?