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Wizard of ISIS,

You're the guy who claimed to have called the FBI when someone puffed up his chest after a night of drinking and insulted your precious manboy. Just harmless chatter that anyone except you and your namesake could clearly see.

Now here you are supporting ISIS, supporting terrorism and calling for the death of American citizens in a theater shooting. I wonder, Wizard of ISIS, does that warrant a call to the FBI? How about Homeland Security? There's no need for me to call them. They have probably flagged you already.

People have been put on watch lists for much less. What's going to happen if you are put on the No Fly list? People have been put on that for much less. What's a top *cough* slot pro to do if he can't fly those millions of miles to go to *cough* work? Are there any slot machines at Gitmo?

Should you be expecting a knock on your door? I don't know but I'd send that girl home if I were you...age of consent and all that. You don't want to get caught. And what is it with you wizard types? Why can't you have relationships with women. Why girls? Do impressionable girls believe your tall tales?

 

At least a half dozen times. Leaving this forum in not his intent. He'll be back very soon. This is his carefully crafted MO...honed to perfection over a lifetime.

When confronted with one of his lies, he immediately tells a more outrageous one then says he's leaving. The next step is to lay low for a few days depending on the enormity of his latest tall tale. Pathological liars are experts at this. And it works! Then simply return like nothing happened. Rinse and repeat.

I have to say, though, I'm surprised no one at WOV calls him on any of it. The guy gets a free pass. Then again maybe everyone sees how he manipulates the mods and gets them to ban people.

If any WOVers read this I'd be curious to hear if you agree with Wizard of ISIS's views on terrorism...calling for the shooting of American citizens in movie theaters.

 

Same question for you, RS. That +1 you gave shows your approval of Wizard of ISIS's views on terrorism and the shooting of Americans. Is that how you feel? Do you approve of terrorism on American soil or are you a little confused?

 

an inappropriate deletion of a post, a complaint, and a sort of "admission" by beached whale.

its all the fault of the app configuration/page layout

never before was this a problem

hmmmmmmmmm

pretty heavy handed oversight of a board

 

I'm not going to go searching for it, but i think something similar has actually happened before where a thread or post got deleted accidently.

I dont know why anyone would want that to be deleted unless it had miss information and there was some threat of legal troubles. I dont know that LCB or WOV makes any money from touts themselves, perhaps someone believes that information will have a direct affect on people signing up for a casino sports account at one of their sites.

 

You dont have to look.
the site has a history of examples of itchy trigger fingers on deletions, suspensions and bannings.

 

I received a private communication today from Mission146 (moderator at WoV). As I commonly violate the privacy of PM's, I want to share a small part of that communication.

Mission apparently only recently read through some of the discussions on this site of criticisms of WoV, which included criticisms and name calling (husband of the year and much worse) of him. Being the fair and objective person that I have always found Mission to be, he is or was thinking of popping in over here, to answer and discuss some of those criticisms and open dialogue.

Should he decide to do so, I hope he will be treated with respect, just as Fisk (Face) has been. I personally welcome the likes of Fisk, Mission, Axel, RS from WoV joining the discussions as I think it can be productive. You can voice your concerns and criticisms but there really is no need for all the gutter attacks. Going in that direction is not going to lead to anything productive.

Now, you will note that I did not include WoN, as part of the WoV group that I welcome. That is only because WoN chose to respond to gutter attacks by joining those attacking him in the gutter. I can't blame him for that. I too sometimes attack back when attacked. It's human nature. But going that route, just will not lead to anything productive.

 

Would be nice to see Mission over here. He is a good guy, regardless of what some here may say.

 

He can come here for sure. The thing about banning someone for no reason given, and treating others with uneven punishment and disrespect....and not allowing them to respond within the rules over there......allows people to come here and respond and comment under the prevailing rules here where the gloves come off. That is the bed that was made by the people in charge over there.

So to cry that some are too harsh over here...well my heart bleeds for him. This thread would not exist if people were treated fairly and with respect at wov. This thread would not exist is customers of wov message boards were treated as any valued customer of any business would be treated. And they are getting some disrespect thrown in their direction, and it doesnt feel good. I can understand that. But once you set in motion the wheels of disrepect, and breed discontent.....they cant cry that the response is tooooooo.......(fill in the blank).

I will treat him like I treat anyone who comes here for discourse. Like I treated KJ, Like I treated Face, Like I treated WON and OAB.
If they want to discuss...I will discuss. If they want to hurl vulgarities....I can do that 10 FOLD..

as far as I am concerned, anyone can come here and be treated by me as consistently as I have treated the people I mentioned above...no better, no worse.

 

Though I would like hear 100% that Babs was the one who accidentally removed the Deadspin story post. Not a conspiracy guy, but it didn't put the guys who front for online casinos in a good light. That story, while nothing new to those who do research, was great journalism. Obviously there are some that wish it wasn't out there. And that post being the one gone seems strange.

 

she blamed the configuration of the delete button on her smartphone. Its in a bad position.
Never heard about this "mistake" being made before.
It was just someone with an itchy trigger finger.....a customer service nightmare

 

I've stated often (as in, just about any time a post deletion question is posed) that the button is in a bad spot for smartphone users and posts could have been accidentally zapped. I've done it before and publicly acknowledged it, and I think I even did it again this morning (though on DT).

I was about as curious as Boz. But having the one-and-done flag power, and having fucked it up before, it's too likely for me to do any sort of jumping to conspiracy.

 

I have no doubt if Babs did it, it was a mistake. But I think she never had it confirmed she was the one that did it. Maybe I missed that. I was just concerned someone else did it intentionally and let her believe she did it.

And by someone else I don't mean Face, Mission or even the Wiz.

 

Oh please. Husb - I mean Mission - has been reading this site since before most of us became members. If Mr "you are the weakest link" says otherwise...he's full of it. Now he wants to join? To discuss? Or to weasel his way to becoming a mod? Let's hope the mods will see through it...if that were to happen. He's already had a hand in ruining WOV.

How about sending him a not so private message and asking him to reinstate some of the unfairly banned members...not that any self respecting person would take him up on it. Still, if they did I would understand. Everyone is different.

I nominate Exoter175 to be the first. No lip service...just get it done. That would be a big step and could only help that now decrepit board.

Of course he would be welcome here as this site does not play favorites like the one he represents.

 

notice, no one else needs someone to clear the way for them.
It doesnt cost any money to sign up here.
You spend 2 minutes to sign up, and post a few times and see if you like it. You see if you are treated fairly, or with respect. Or you see if you are treated as you treat others.

All he has to do is put on his big boy pants and come over and post.

Its like someone at wov saying "I have a friend who wants to sign up here, but he wants assurances that there wont be uneven punishment for things he contributes"........

axholewolf, RS, et al would fry the poster. The manboy might even tell the poster to not let the door hit him in the ass.

 

This is a jump to conclusion and not fair in my opinion.

Mission did not ask me to clear the way for him. As a matter of fact, he likely is not happy I shared what I did. The purpose of his contacting me what to share some of his feelings about my situation that he never had the opportunity to and I appreciate that.

Also for what it's worth, he had some positive things to say about you, which I shouldn't even say and will say no more.

Why do you guys think everyone at WoV is your enemy, just because they are at WoV. Judge people on their own merit and have a respectful discussion about differences.

 

I don't think you will ever get it Freddy. An owner or his managers can tell anyone they don't like to not come back as long as it isn't illegal discrimination. Period. And they do it. The remedy is if they are wrong and do it too many times they will go out of business. I have yet to see any financial hit WoV has taken from losing the banned people. Have you? Obviously the owner doesn't care. Just like you have the right to complain like you do. But if you think the owner cares, you are wrong. Hell you even said you still use the site for PM's. You may not spend money online, but your not that upset to boycott it.

 

Greetings!

Okay, let's get started.

The first thing that I would like to do is thank KewlJ for taking it upon himself to make an Introduction of sorts. With respect to any, 'Gutter Attacks,' I would simply extend my invitation to attack away (as though that hasn't been going on already) and simply state that I will either respond to messages directed to me or not respond to them based upon how I perceive myself as being treated by people. We're all adults which means that we should all be able to take an insult, even if it be a, 'Gutter Attack,' but being an adult does not necessarily mean that I cannot consider myself above responding to people who level such attacks at me directly.

Nice to see you anywhere you may be, Boz! I hope we have the opportunity to run into one another and toss a few back again.

LarryS, I am certain that you misinterpreted KewlJ's message, but he can speak for himself. I really do not care at how, 'Harsh,' people may or may not be. I mainly care about people being able to engage in a conversation with people here or anywhere that is conducted with some semblance of civility and decorum.

Anyway, LarryS, it is a pleasure to see you again all the same. I would suggest, as you have probably read, that I had mostly nothing but kind words for you at WoV even after you were banned.

That said, I have no intention of discussing that Forum in the general sense, but would much rather respond to specific incidences if I may. Furthermore, I also find it prudent to point out, as with the truce between KewlJ and QFit, that I only have limited knowledge of some things if any at all. Finally, I think it is safe to say that I have not been the most active Administrator as much of my time is spent writing Articles for WoV, LCB and LBB as well as pages for WoO...so I might have no knowledge whatsoever about some things.

With respect to BeachBumBabs, 'Fat-fingering,' the button, she's telling the truth that there is the potential for doing that. I actually deleted an OP on one occasion, but realized that I had done it almost immediately and shot the Member a PM to that effect. Fortunately, they have now added something that Flags need to be confirmed, so that is a mistake that will not happen in the future. With respect to it being deleted due to any criticism of Online Gambling, I would certainly not expect that to be the case as there are many posts critical of Online Gambling that are not deleted. Also, not everything that I have ever said about Online Gambling has been positive, I'll be the first to point out the potential pratfalls that are out there.

Freddy, 'Husband of the Year,' is fine, by all means, if you prefer. See, that's not the problem, the problem comes right after you address me by my handle:

" I mean Mission - has been reading this site since before most of us became members. If Mr "you are the weakest link" says otherwise...he's full of it."

This is my point exactly, if you are going to go into a discussion with me already operating under the pretense that I am a liar who will misrepresent this Forum about even the most innocuous things, then how I am going to entertain any direct discussion with you? If I have to operate under the premise, 'This guy isn't going to believe anything I say,' then undoubtedly, there can never be a reason for me to say anything to you.

Enough about that, I will either respond or not respond to future posts you may direct towards me, but let me address the remainder of the present post for right now:

I have no interest or desire in becoming a Moderator here and never will.

I would be interested in how you intend to prove that I have been reading this site since before most of you became Members given:

A.) I haven't.

and

B.) Even if I had, it's not going to be a provable statement.

Of course, I cannot strictly prove that I have not been reading it since before most of you became Members, which makes that a perfectly safe accusation to level at me, if you so desire. That won't make it any more correct, though, but then, I don't particularly care what you think I have been reading or have not been reading.

With respect to Members who you consider to be, 'Unfairly banned,' I am open to any suggestions for people who you might believe should be allowed to come back to the Forum. There are quite a few people, in fact, that I have stated that I would prefer had they not been Nuked. With that being said, if you think that I have the authority to unilaterally make the decision to, 'Allow,' someone back, then I think you fundamentally misconceive my place in the pecking order.

And, finally, I appreciate your welcome. Although, I would appreciate not being accused of lying again, unless of course the accusation itself would actually be disprovable were my statement true.

(Edit: Corrected Minor Grammatical Error)

 

Welcome Mission. I am glad you decided to join the discussion.

 

KewlJ,

Thank you for pointing that out, and that is absolutely true. My PM to you was actually meant to convey that I would NOT be coming here, but then your initial message here (as LarryS also interpreted it) also tended to give the impression that I was thinking about it, and so I felt that I was pretty much painted into a corner and could actually rightfully be considered a liar if I did not do so.

General,

It is absolutely true that I contacted KewlJ primarily to express my feelings about that situation between QFIT and himself. Those feelings are primarily remorse over the fact that he no longer posts on WoV and frustration that the whole thing went down and I really did not know too much about the particulars. I still don't, but what is done is done in that respect. I cannot answer for how I would have handled the situation differently because I know almost none of the specifics about what occurred behind-the-scenes.

If LarryS has been following WoV, as it would appear from the 40,000+ views of this thread is a very popular thing to do here, he knows that I have had mostly, if not entirely, complimentary things to say about him. I always enjoyed our discourse.

With respect to enemies, I do not have any. I simply have people with whom I refuse to communicate. Enemies are a huge waste of energy. Situations happen and you move on. I heartily apologize if anyone considers any of the WoV bans unfair or unwarranted, and if there ever any that were, (because I do not know whether or not I agree that any were) then the only thing I can cite is that everyone is human and makes mistakes. I have certainly committed unfair acts upon people or said unfair things in real life and have had the same happen to me, but dwelling on any slights is ineffective when it comes to improving both the present and the future. Whether you are slighted or are the person doing the slighting, (provided it is inadvertent and unmalicious, of course) stuff happens and you move on.