Blackjack KewlJ

Wait a minute kew. You just said you need to keep track of how much you win at each casino because the casinos have thresholds on earnings, and when you reach that lifetime amount then the "heat and the scrutiny" get kicked up a notch.

So casinos keep "lifetime win trackers" on winners? Where did you read that one ...or rather, which casino's execs told you about the practice? And most importantly, you've been claiming for years now that you're so much smarter than the casinos, with your practice of being almost always able to "stay under the radar" and you don't use players cards. The reason you repeatedly gave for this was so you'd be able to return after whipping them for a tidy profit.

So which story is it--A or B? Do casinos know how much you beat them for, and because you are able to keep it just below their "you're in trouble" threshold that the books and/or execs gave you this inside information about, you know when to stop putting the hurt on them---or, are you the stealthy person you claim you are and they know not who the little rascal is?

This will be interesting.

 

And here's where it gets fun!

Kew continuously gets himself--and his so-called "forum reputation"--boxed into so many corners that even his pathological lying can't get him out of it. Watch, as he scrambles to take a single small part of my expose' on him above and try to sway his terrified self into believing his own lies

We've seen him do this before. Remember he pretended that Tater was a "pro player" who claimed he made his living doing that in Reno? Then when Tater corrected his lie to say he simply supplements his income with gambling successes, everyone understood that but kew--who desperately needed to keep claiming it was Tater who lied about himself

Then we have the time MDawg said he broke even in a session. Kew, who is harmed by the mere thought of anyone being able to consistently win playing differently than him, starts claiming MDawg "broke down with the pressure he was applying, and finally admitted that he was not a long term baccarat winner after all"! Of course, kew needed this lie in order to cope. And he repeats it over and over again, even when everybody, including wizard, knows it's just another one of kew's lies.

One of his favorites about me is claiming I've said "machines (and now roulette) TELEPATH info to me". "VooDoo" is another term he frequently uses when confused. In fact, I just put a couple of posts up on VCT that are so far advanced mathematically for his limited mind that he resorted back to using the telepathic lie again.

Another of his favorites with me is claiming, because Dan Druff DOES NOT WANT IT TO BE THAT I BOUGHT A NEWELL FROM CASH WON ON PUTTING DOWN THE DOUBLE UP BUG PLAY, that's "proof" that I'm lying about it.

Desperate measures for desperate liars. That's kew in a nutshell.

Let's see how he handles his house of cards falling down with my post above.

 

It's gotten to where I don't even read UNKewl responses to my posts any longer. Why bother, when psychologist R.Singer steps in to not only tell me what the UNKewl one said, but also to tell me what it means? Plus the fact that UNKewlJ just keeps repeating the same
SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo babble not even full of sound (or fury) signifying (less than) nothing. Just one long WHINE (his skinny muscle-free arm plastered to his cocked hip, his voice going up to a shrill whinny in defiant protest).

Junior psychologist AccountinQuestion continues with the slicing open of the UNKewl one, yes, like a fish! I'm not sure what to think of Singer but at the end of the day he laughs most of this shit off. You can't. That's pretty much the sum of this whole situation between you 2.

 

Mdawg did not say that he "broke even in a session," as is stated in #1442 above. Unless one's definition of a "session" is months of time and dozens of different time periods at tables.

Slipping in a non-specific word like "session," hoping nobody notices, and trying to get away with defining months of play as a "session" is so lame.

What nonsense.

 

Rob writes: So casinos keep "lifetime win trackers" on winners?

Taters says: it's very easy for them to track a player who has a players card. Not so much without.

A "session" for me was buy-in at 20 x the table minimum. A session win or loss was 10x the buy in. Anything in between was a tie. If players joined in it was an interrupted session.
I played 16 decks straight up against the dealer which was about 100 hands. Sometimes I'd go 17.

I never played more than 3 sessions at one casino during a shift. If I won the first session I was done with that casino for that shift.

This sounds like a very conservative approach. Perhaps I could've stretched more. But my position was "if they can't handle that" I don't want to play anyway.

Certain dealers at one casino would deal deep. I'd often see 40+ cards. They didn't like to shuffle. I won at least 90% of my sessions. Eventually I got the boot. But they were nice about it. This is why I have no problem playing individuals straight up for black chips. I've already been there - done that.

 

Which is it? A combination of A and B, Rob.

I know you are grasping at straws and you just grabbed hold of one and think you really have something. Let me try to explain it to you. I doubt you will get it though.

Absolutely casinos have all kinds of thresholds which raise flags and trigger things. Thresholds from a winning sessions to lifetime winnings. That is why a player trying to achieve some longevity devises a play style to keep all of these under the threshold that draws attention. Now I can only speak about blackjack play and of my specific level of play, which until recently was green to mid black or so. Players playing higher levels will have different thresholds that trigger things.

So at my level of play, a common lifetime win threshold that is going to trigger additional interest, scrutiny and action is $50,000. If a player playing a max bet of say about $500 has a lifetime win of $50,000, that is going to be when a casino says well this guy isn't just being lucky, something else is going on. Some casinos will watch more closely to try to verify the player is counting or using another advantage play technique. Other casinos will just take action and 86 the player. Hitting that threshold is enough for them.

So the two ways a player can try to avoid that lifetime threshold is by playing unrated as much as possible and by ratholing just a couple chips per session. For the session thresholds, you can add in playing very short sessions. I employ all these techniques and it has served me well.

You guys that aren't card counters or AP's, don't seem to have any idea what it is to be one. It is not just adding +1, +1, -1 and betting more when the count reaches such and such a point. A monkey could literally be taught to do that. Successful card counting is about being able to play and avoid detection and applying techniques that will help achieve that longevity desired.

And by the way, that $50,000 number that I gave is just an example of a common threshold at my level of play. Smaller or tighter casinos may have half that for the same level of bets. A bigger strip casino maybe twice as much. But all casinos have numbers that send up red flags and trigger further action or investigation. This is just another reason why Mdawgs tales of all his winning and still getting comped is just that....a fairytale.

Your welcome for the education. Now go ahead Rob, say something else stupid that only further demonstrates you have no idea of the things you talk about.

 

Exactly correct Moses. That is why it is best for a card counter or any advantage player to play unrated as much as possible. You can't always play unrated. Casinos that are really adamant and pushy about a player's card, it is just best to go ahead and play rated, but then rat-hole close to your EV.

 

I never played unrated. For one thing, the thought never occurred to me before Norm. I'm not sure it's even tolerated in Reno.

For instance. Suppose I make $300 in a session. I tip the dealer $10. Many pits count the blacks in and out. So that session looks like a $200 win. Now, if I lose $225. It looks like a $300 lose. THAT is how I was able to survive a decade.

 

So all that bragging about how you "never play with a players card" is not true, and you're bragging that you "are an under-the-radar player" isn't true either. And it took me--someone who doesn't play the game--to get you to admit that

What you're saying now is you sometimes DO use a card because they compel you to? If not, then how else are they able to track you and your lifetime winnings?

Where do you get your info on each casino's "lifetime winnings threshold"? And please don't say "pro players know and discuss this kind of stuff". Provide a figure
from Sunset Station, one from Gold Coast, one from Sam's Town, one from the Cannery on Craig, and one from Suncoast if you please, and how exactly you know them. Then for clarity, do these places require the use of a players card?

My next question has to do with the treatment of card counter's. I've mentioned this before--the exec I know at the Peppermill/Western Village told me that the moment they determine someone is counting cards, win or lose, the ask him or her to leave. I don't know if that's what they do everywhere. I also don't know how good they are at it, but he says they are very effective.

Not knowing much about counting, my guess is that people who suddenly jump up their bet on certain hands radiate suspicion, especially when the computers upstairs are also counting the tables. He told me they do that at times. Casinos have people specifically looking for counters. How are you able to defeat all that, and at the same time not be tracked (or maybe you are?) then keep taking the same casino's money, year after year? And you play "under the radar"?

 

Rob writes to KJ: My next question has to do with the treatment of card counter's. I've mentioned this before--the exec I know at the Peppermill/Western Village told me that the moment they determine someone is counting cards, win or lose, the ask him or her to leave. I don't know if that's what they do everywhere. I also don't know how good they are at it, but he says they are very effective.

Tater says: They are good at it. But if they tossed every counter there would be few left to play. Most who count don't win because they are undisciplined and bad money managers.
Pmill has top notch dealers to protect the house. Western Village no longer offers card games.

 

Red, everything isn't always meant to be a trick when someone makes a post. I used "session" because that's what I thought I remembered. Maybe MDawg can tell us what period of time that was for?

Regardless, would it be a crime for a player who reports on winning a lot of money over time to choose a short period within his lifetime of play to say he broke even? Did he also say he lied about ever winning anything? Because word on VCT seems to be that he still has an ongoing Adventure thread at WoV where he still reports on his winning. When kew concocts his stories of how "he forced MDawg to admit that he does not win" how do you square his continued reports of winning with this old "break even" info? And if he was such a brute that made MDawg admit to something like that, how could dawg POSSIBLY have the balls to continue to post his reports of winning?

 

So not all card counter's are very good with money management and discipline. I don't know about kew's money MGMT. skills, but as we've seen right here and on other forums time and time again, he so often fails when it comes to doing what he said he was going to do. IE, a poor performer when it comes to discipline. And aside from his plethora of other tells, that's the number one reason why and how you can spot an imposter from miles away

 

What the fuck is wrong with you Singer. Everything is when you are able to. That goes without saying for most people. The exception is you trolls trying to create some sort of gottch ya moment. Same with tracking two table: I have always said "when able to" or "when circumstances or conditions are just right".

I have never said I am an "under the radar guy". Those days are long gone...probably before I even started playing. My game is about identifying levels of play, monetary amounts, win amounts and even time limits, which goes right into win amounts, that are better tolerated and accepted by each casino. And these levels are different for each casino and even the same casino on different days and times of day.

If Moses wants to be honest, he will verify that is what I have always said, not this "under the radar" crap you just made up.

Everyone of you haters, You, Rob, Blackhole before you, Mdawg, even Alan, try to discredit me in the manner you are now doing. And I can and have explained in great detail, what I do and how I do it to avoid some of these down falls.

It is about time some of you haters admit it. How about this: I will write it for you: I don't like the guy (me). I don't like the way he posts. I don't like or approve of his sexual orientation, but he knows what the fuck he is talking about in regards to mid-level card counting advantage play. Just once I would like to hear one of you haters and trolls, be a man and admit the truth, which everyone can see.

 

What I do and say on the forum has zero to do with my ability as a blackjack advantage player. That is just me getting and being frustrated by trolls and haters lying constantly. One need look no further than mickeycrimm to understand that.

One of my signature lines is "it doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". When it comes to blackjack advantage play, if you or anyone else hasn't figured out I know what I am talking about, then you are either an idiot or you are lying to yourself. Either one, I can't help you.

 

Rob writes: So not all card counter's are very good with money management and discipline.

Tater says: Most players have entitlement issues. The problem is we are scare the fuck out of pit bosse with all the talk out grand easy profits. So they act too quickly. Few players let the game come to them. What is happens some make alot and lose alot. They don't want the "make alot" portion to happen on their want.

Thus it's more of a game of people played with cards than a game of math.

 

Under the radar? Some basic principles. My #1 is don't try to fool the EITS. Find a way to make the game worthwhile within casino tolerances. If you can't? Don't play. If you push. They can push back harder. It's just that simple.

I'm pretty much a what you see is what you get type. My forum persona is the same as real life.

There are easier ways to make money.

 

Now I see more of why kew has this big problem with you: you're too sensible and honest. It doesn't fit his ever-changing stories that have to be re-invented & re-written because he gets made into a fool so often.

Like him NOW trying to claim he didn't say "I am able to keep winning by staying under the radar". Now he by and large follows YOUR lead with "playing within casino tolerances". And he ALWAYS goes into his rambling rant about how everyone hates him every time he gets skinned like a cat or takes a direct hit from people who can easily spot nervous poodle imposters

 

Here's a great idea. Rather than declaring something in public without checking the facts, like MDawg announcing that he broke even "one session," one might check the facts.

I know, it's such a revolutionary concept for some people.

Saying that you remembered something wrong is not really much of an excuse for declaring something in public that's completely wrong.

 

Rob doesn't want to know the truth redietz. And he won't accept the truth. But I am happy to do a little recap to this Mdawg situation, which of course Rob won't acknowledge.

1.) Mdawg began posting of a trip in Mid March 2021. That trip lasted 9 months until December 2021. During that trip Mdawg posted daily accounts of his play, all or almost all winning amounts. At one point 50 some winning days in a row. At one point 102 winning days out of 104 days played.

2.) through early October if you were to add up all his reports as I and others did, including one of the mods at WoV, he was over 500k ahead.

3.) in mid October, having gotten a look at his real gambling records, I released that he was not ahead 500k as stated but that his real records showed a 100k loss over those 7 months.

4.) Days after I released his actual results, Mdawg made the following post at WoV (oct 24, 2021):

"Wizard and I got together recently and had a grand old time as he showed me a number of magic tricks he’s been working on. I was impressed.
Additionally we went over my Baccarat wins and losses this trip and I’d say that I might be about even, or slightly up or down at Bacc."

*** Please note that highlighted last line. After 7 months of reports totaling over 500k in wins, in one sentence that is all gone as he says he is "about even", which even THAT wasn't true.

5.) Two days later on Oct 26, 2021 wizard posted the following: "Mdawg's confession about his baccarat play over the entirety of his trip I found to be very honest and commendable".

CONFESSION! Wizard is flat out acknowledging that Mdawg lied for 7 months with his daily winning reports totaling over 500k.


Rob asks the question: "how could dawg POSSIBLY have the balls to continue to post his reports of winning?"

Good question Rob. But I think this explains why this Mdog person is so freaking pissed. For whatever reason he was telling this fiction fantasy, it all came crashing down on Oct 24, when he confessed (wizard's word) the truth.

 

And here's another revelation. Instead of always presenting your obfuscated biased ideas, why don't you just post where anyone can go to read those obvious "facts".

I know it's something of a new concept with you, but just as with your many past claims of "I won big tournaments 40 years ago but they can't be found on the internet because of their age" or "20 years ago I absolutely ACED the Wise guys challenge, but there's no way to verify that online because they never put it there, or "I just came in 2nd in this casino handicapping contest, but in order to actually see the results you have to be a reversed member", why don't you just post what you claim proves my post incorrect?

Quite a novel effort, isn't it?