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He should have asked for the MC treatment.....where they quietly delete the post.....and its all hush hush

 

LarryS., you are unrelenting in your inability to give up a bone once your choppers have latched onto it.

Like with your dislike of being bounced from boards: you've proven unrelenting in delivering payback, in not giving up that bone.

First John Patric banned you, and you tore into him like a ravenous hyena.

Then the Wiz kicked you off the yellow brick road, and your focus shifted to him as the primary target of your continuing vitriol.

But hey, that's cool: I can relate to vitriol.

As for me quoting some of your old posts, to support my point: maybe some other time.

 

Bingo

 

It will take some time to wade through it all.

No "bingo."

More like "manana ... maybe."

 

I didn't see a racial slur.

He doesn't care one bit, he didn't even know he was suspended until I laughed him about it, ruined my joke since he didn't even know. I think he agrees with the suspension. Just like I don't or didn't care when or if I get suspended. I wouldn't hold a grudge with anyone that suspended me, and I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

 

If the "hold a grudge...lose sleep" line is a reference to me, I once was suspended for calling EvenBob a jackass. I accepted that...no problem. (although I don't know how a mod could possible argue that he isn't).

I read MaxPen's comment and his comment was against the rules, so he can't really argue it.

However, both of these are different than my situation. Please tell me what comment I made that was worthy of a suspension, let alone nuking? There wasn't one. As a matter of fact Mike acknowledged there wasn't a suspension worthy comment in his PM to me that began, "while no rules were broken, we mods don't like it when....".

When you are taken off a site, that you broke absolutely no rule, other than having a negative opinion of someone who just happens to be a friend of the head guy, that's not right. And when you have followed the rules for 4+ years and really tried hard to be a valuable, contributing member, it is more than just not right....It's insulting. It's disrespectful. It's Mike telling me that he doesn't think very much of me or my 4 years worth of contributions.

I'm not losing sleep over it, but don't tell me I shouldn't be offended. I am.

And for what it's worth, maybe you didn't care when you were suspended, but I cared when you (and the others) were suspended, for the reason you were suspended. An AP has a right to try to protect their opportunities. That's all you guys did. There was no rule at the time about what you could and couldn't use 'flagging' for. Had I been there, I would have flagged that post and been among the group suspended.

 

Also, getting back to the MaxPen situation. Just because someone can be suspended doesn't mean they always should be suspended. It is perfectly fine to consider each case on it's own merits, including the person involved. It is perfectly fine to suspend one person for something, while giving another a warning and opportunity to remove the offending post. In the case of MaxPen, a good contributing member without history of attacks and insults, you give a warning. That is not a double standard.

Mike brought this kindergarden mentality to WoV of timeouts and shaming at every possible opportunity. Everything is a big game.....a big joke. He treats everyone like a 6 years old instead of the professionalism worthy of a website related to AP. That's probably why a relatively small number of AP's actually choose to participate there. Most AP's just don't take him or the site seriously.

 

Not directed at you it was directed at everyone especially people like howmany. So you agree that each case should be treated different and some people should be shown the door? Me too, however that is a double standard IMO. It's basically saying one person is worth more than another for some reason or another. Some people are just toxic they get off on starting shit and finding "got you" moments.

I care when people get unfairly suspended but then I think it's not the end of the world.

 

Of course people should be treated differently, or rather: each case should be treated separately. I've always hated how (some/many?) people like to follow rules as if they were black & white, written in stone. No two circumstances are the same, and they shouldn't be treated the same because they may be similar.

Absolutely some people are worth more than othemore. There's value in having a regular poster who's normal and isn't a total retard....and not much value in someone that's either trolling the forum or has some serious problems (i.e.: Kentry).

When I first read maxpens post I was gonna tell him he should probably edit it because it'd get him suspended. Got distracted for a second, forgot to tell him, and a few hours later he was suspended. He coulda gotten a warning or a suspension, both ways would have been justified I think. But whatever. He doesn't care and I don't think anyone else really cares; it's a petty issue. Although, the post he made, I thought, was pretty damn funny, especially coming from him.

 

OK, I guess that is a double standard, but that's ok. It is basing each case on it's own merit. That's how our judicial system works (or is supposed to work). Two people commit the same crime, one a first time offender, the other with a long 'rap sheet', they can draw very different sentences.

I don't know that I would phrase it as saying one person is worth more than the other, but I think it is very fair to look at someone's entire body of work. Someone who basically has been 'clean' following the rules, and it is pretty obvious his main purpose is to add positively to the forum (like the case with MaxPen), should be treated differently than the member that is repeatedly attacking and being suspended. That double standard is more than ok.

I get that it was just a "fed up" moment and he decided to uncharacteristically say what was on his mind. I get that he isn't upset (doesn't care). But that's not the point. The point is the goal should be to make the site as great as it can be. And people that generally work towards that goal, generally contribute with the purpose of contributing positively for the good of the site, should get a little extra leeway, as opposed to some Jackass (no one in particular) who's sole intent is to be disruptive and push the limits (insults and other) and see just how much he can get away with. That "little extra leeway", is credit earned.

But that's not the case at WoV. At WoV, Mike has brought that kindergarten mentality of time outs and shaming at every possible situation. He is not rewarding members for contributing and helping build the site he is punishing and demeaning them for his own enjoyment at every chance.
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Have you been reading the WoV from it's beginning? The place is a huge ploppie fest with a few AP tidbits thrown in. It's nowhere near and "AP site."

 

True.

WoO should have its own board, to focus on AP and more serious issues, whereas WoV should focus on Las Vegas.

 

I did not participated from day 1. But I did participate for 4+ years. The fact that WoV is not solely an AP site is one of the things I liked about it. I enjoy talking other topics, Vegas, sports, politics. Not so much some of the goofier stuff for me, but to each his own.

But there is an AP and gambling element to the site as well, and to that point...it is one of a number of sites that make up the AP community. For that part of the site there has to be some sense of professionalism to be taken seriously. At times Mike is very serious about the gambling AP part, all the gaming videos, surveys, guides, articles, Q & A's, analyzing games. But then he runs the message board like its all kids stuff on the playground. He loses all credibility.

Just go to some of the real legit AP type sites and ask some of the better known and respected AP's like Grosjean or Munchkin or others, what they think of Mike. They will say something positive about his mathematical abilities, but they think he is a buffoon. (Munchkin is a bad example because he is a class guy and would never publicly say what he thought). They don't take him seriously because of all the goofiness. The third grade way he acts and that includes running his site. That is where he loses all respect and credibility. And Mike's buddy Qfit, is right there with him. Talented and respected math guys that lose all credibility for the unprofessional and childish way they run their sites.

 

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I think it is fair to say this is one of Mike's biggest weaknesses. He is very anal and rigid. Likes to have everything set in stone. There is very little flexibility. And as you know this is a very bad and contradicting quality among AP's. We often need to adjust on the fly for different circumstances.

 

Now they're talking about another nugget puking contest. How many will let themselves be used by manboy this time? Beached whale, how many nuggets can you eat?

 

thats a great idea as long as he has it in the living room of his home instead of at an unsuspecting business, without approval of management AND paying customers.

he has no sense of what is wrong or right.

socially backward?.....another example

 

Just read that thread. He is going to change the venue to a different McD because they "got alot of heat" at the last one.
What have I been saying to the manboy. He says people have to respect HIS place...yet he shows no respect for someone elses "place" by arranging it beforehand and getting permission.

Now he wants to move it to a McD that has tables in a common area with other places to eat. So there is more of a chance of others being bothered. Others having their appetite ruined if there is vomiting. He has no problem putting others in harms way it seems. The harm being the discomfort of seeing gaging and or vomiting while you are trying to have a nice peaceful meal.

he wants respect at his place for him and his customers. Yet he shows no respect for others.

what a hypocrite

 

Here's a McNugget challenge from the past, featuring the Wiz and Mission himself



Anybody know who the dick with the selfie stick is?

 

Michael Shackleford, what a dumb fuck you are! Your retarded face explains it all. Brains not included!