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Shackleford ain't exactly svelte.

 

Half this thread is off topic. What does fucking ones mother have to do with WOV?

 

of course you are right but I ahve been calling him socially backward all along.
He has someone who worships and defends him and he say something publicly that would hurt her feelings.
She is working for free to boot for him. She actually thinks she is working in ?mikes living room".....and this is how mike treats his guest who also is dusting his furniture and cleaning the windows for free. So much for the "guest" garbage that they spew.

this kind of talk creeps people out.....and this typeof talk gets you un-invited from a canyoneering excusrsion.

 

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/wizardofvegas-forum-is-dying.3391/page-12#post-11113


has since been taken down. here is the remnants .according to freddy.

 

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to misrepresent. That's just how I took it as it relates to this "beating up your body" stuff.

And I'd be a fool to call you wrong. The jury is not out when it comes to these types of things. It is proven to take a toll on one's health, sometimes a mighty toll indeed. However, I don't see the need to draw the lines as far away as you do. For sure, if someone was about to do something ignorantly, I'd be right there with you saying "Yo, ho, hold on! You know you could die from this shit, right?" But if someone is advised and still wants to do it, I don't see the problem. Like that escalator thing. I can see the possible disruption of the business or its patrons, but as far as running up a down or down an up, that, to me and for me, is nearly insignificant. I could run up a down escalator running backwards without even thinking about it. Blindfolded, even. I was actually (and still am) quite surprised that something of that nature is looked at as a challenge by anyone under 60 years of age or 300lbs. It's as easy as, well... falling down the stairs. Someone freaking about me "risking my life" in that scenario would find me unable to stop my laughter, with a suggestion to "settle down, grandma."

Pro's often cut decades off their life due to CTE and other damage from repeated blunt force trauma. That's OK with you, and it's OK with me. Free country, free will, freedom period. I, too, have fucked myself over and out. I'm 35 with 4 crushed disks, a shoulder that pops out daily, and by last check I've had 34 concussions and untold number of sub-concussive head trauma incidences. My future isn't all that bright, but it's my choice to make. When it comes to others, I fully support their right to do whatever they want, within the law and common decency, of course. Some whackadoo 16yr old wants to eat 500 nuggets? Sorry pard'. You're a minor and not mine, so I don't support it. 18? Well, let me at least educate you first. But if you hear all the terribleness and are still for it, it ain't my place to stop you. Freedom is king, even the freedom to be an idiot. So have at it.

 

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so you avoided where you stand on the wov specific issues
1- ok to hold eating contests without medical help nearby, even thoughthe standard established by the over-seeing "board".....says they shouldnt be attempted wihtout medical staff on site. Sponsoring such with out medical staff on site shows a dis-regard for the health of the participants.

2- Holding the contest without permission in a common area of customers eating from other food places....is a dis-regard for the people and other businesses. Shows hypocrisy. Dont disrespect "mikes place",,,,,,but its ok to disrespect "mcdonalds place" "dairy queens place" "arbys place" (or whatever other businesses are in that common area). Its ok to insert yourself ina public area and have people witness possible gagging and vomiting....as happened with mission.

3-it seems alot of people were shocked or surprised that HB gained all the weight back. Not one person said.."yes I have been talking to her over the years and she kept me up to date, it wasnt up to me to divulge it....but I did know and now support her new thread." Which says to me, that she is just a vehicle to bet on....like a race horse....and after the race....she and the horse can fuck off. The suggesstion that people really care about here doesnt seem to hold water. Its ok to just say she is used as a freak show...a fat person jester, doing the dieting dance for others to get a gambling rush from. And when the bet is over...everyone goes their separate ways.
To me there is something sick about that. Yes Yes, I know about free country etc. But a country fullof people who just follow the legalities of the laws on the books and nothing else.....with no moral compass.....then we are in trouble. That is not to say my moral compass is the gold standard.....however the "if its not illegal than its fine" standard does leave something to be desired.

the key is, that the wiz demands respect and will punish others if he feels he is being slighted. Yet I dont see him giving others the respect they deserve. I see him using people and places for his own amusement and benefit as far as HB and nugget contests. And using people for his own amusement when he goes on suspension sprees when he is in a bad mood.

And this is the guy thats in charge of customer service? fuck me

 

Sorry, i wasn't avoiding. I thought we were just tossing opinions.

I am beyond fine with holding whatever despite what any expert has to say, and/or without a medic present. It's a real peeve of mine when I can't do something I by all rights should be able to do just because someone/anyone thinks it's a bad idea. If I want to hike public land and jump out a tree into a ravine of water only 4' wide, that's my goddamn prerogative, IMO. When busybodies feel they can come in and prevent me from doing what I want, I get real fucking hype. I would sign any waiver required; i've no problem with an outside party protecting themselves from our litigious society. But if I want to jump out of trees or hike dangerous ravines or go over the falls in a barrel, that's my fucking business. REALLY pisses me off when others try to prevent me under the guise of "it's best for me", and those people can fuck right off. The only way I could agree with you here is if it was done misleadingly. Saying "Pah, you'll be fine" while knowing there is a large risk, and doing so to ensure a contestant will play whereas they may not if they had known, would be borderline criminal, imo.

As a general rule, I'll agree with #2. Were I at any sit down eatery, I'd be pissed if there was much of any commotion or to-do. However, I do recognize differences. Lord knows my tournament team is a powder keg. We come to any joint and we take it over. Restaurant, bar, gas station, we overrun it. Sometimes, it is not received well. Seldomly, we get kicked out. Occasionally, we are welcomed and encouraged to please return asap. It all depends. But as a general rule and probably in the majority of cases, it's not the best look. (Despite my example, I'm not disagreeing here)

#3 I don't think needs any argument. There are for sure folks for whom HB is just an opportunity. An event. A thing with which to obtain action. But is that all that surprising? Of the 1,500 or so people in the stands when I race, only 10 care about me, the meat behind the wheel. Those are my friends and family. The other 1,490 would love nothing more than to see me tumble end over end in a huge conflagration. It's not malice; they don't want me dead. But they're there for action. All the blood, sweat, and sacrifice I put into building that car means fuck all to them. My health means fuck all. Me being hurt, terrified, heart broken... Fuck all. They just want the action. It's no different than the sports you bet on. Those people absolutely exist, they exist on WoV, they exist in that thread. But, just like my racing, I don't believe there is NO ONE who cares.

 

So if you agree with #2, then you would have to agree that the wiz is a hypocrite in demanding respect in "mikes place".... but showing little respect for the businesses or the customers of those businesses around his unauthorized contest. And the people who cheer the nugget eating contest, and scold me and others that we need to be more respectful of "mikes place",...are hypocrites as well.

 

Would it be wrong to hope that the contestant has a heart attack. Shattford is all over the news and lawyers line up offering their services to sue for $2.3M, now that would be comical, in a perverse way.

 

It would be proper to hope for it..if they allowed you to bet that he dies......then its all good..if it involves a bet. AT least thats what I infer from behavior on that site.
Beached whale would even hold the money on the bet, because she was the one who felt putting out odds on EBs death was hilarious.

 

It appears the Wizards site is far from dying, hurry up and read a very interesting post that was just submitted.

WizardsofVegas views are going through the roof over this new thread. In fact poster was asked to post more frequently to keep said forum alive.

I'm so glad the Wizards forum is alive and well this evening

 

I just ask this out of concern and just plain morbid curiosity...since you know brains dont heal like broken bones...you know you can be just one hit in the head away from some serious shit.....and it may not even be a major hit in the end that send the brain over the cumulative edge for concussions. Do you live your life any differently now?......do less things that could pose danger to your head? Are you worried that one day you might start losing memory like Jim Mcmahon from the Bears.

 

the sports I bet on involve billionaires making millionaires out of men who do dangerous things to their bodies with physicians and emergency vehicles always at arms length

 

I just popped in here cause I saw that thread regarding LarryS and it was closed as it should have been
Anyway
since I'm here and saw the post above

I was at the Mission challenge, just good timing, live in FL but vacation in Vegas every Xmas.
Geez, it was just about fun.
What Mission was doing is no different then what happens all the time in Vegas
Newbie discovering the Vegas top notch buffets and simply going for it
I get free buffets at Caesars, brought a newbie good friend with me
He totally went for it. lol. Happens all the time in Vegas.
He practically killed his body just eating and eating, high quality unlimited food. He couldn't say no to anything. Totally pigged out.
Common occurance in Vegas. No dieting in Vegas
Anyway, glad you were not there to kill the fun.
Mcdonalds was aware. Management didn't care.
Its business, in a way good business
We were customers consuming their product, lots of there product. That's what business is about. Serving customers, really good customers.
Some tourist stayed to watch because everybody was having FUN.
Talking, watching, joking in the real world, its called FUN
I like to get out and meet in real life the Wiz, Mission, Axel, Rudeboyoi, Paigowdan ect
Its Fun
Now I got to go outside and catch some Pokémon
Why
Its FUN.
Try Having some Fun LarryS,
Reading a few of your posts, wow, take a bong hit and chill

 

"take a bong hit and chill"

For some REAL relaxation: netflix and chill.

With a couple hits of kgb thrown in for good measure.

 

yeah it was such good fun that the last one had to be moved outside, and a new venue is being used this time because management did not appreciate the "fun"
a simple example of disrespecting another business.

Yes, posting on youtube someone vomiting mcnuggets, is an image that mcdonalds wants of their product. And the visual of mission vomiting into a mcdonalds trash can, is something every vegas tourist expects and smiles at as good clean fun.

I have been to vegas once a year for the last 25 years, and am in reno 50 weekends a year......and I never witnessed someone vomiting while I was eating. And If I did I would not smile and keep eating while admiring the "fun"

No business wants images of people gagging or vomiting attached to their product distributed online....nor do they want to subject their "in store"customers to that image/smell.

People who arent socially developed like college frat boys may feel this is just good fun. As we grow up and mature and see the consequences to other people.....as we become socially developed......and good neighbors......these things no longer "appear" to be just honest good fun...that everyone is entitled to enjoy.

ITS JUST THE OPPOSITE.....the manboy isnt entitled to enjoy the gagging down of nuggets by others in a place of business, at a public venue.........that is not his right.

the world is NOT "mikes place"

Why not bring people to his home and see if his wife enjoys the possibility of someone vomiting in her living room. Or why not have the person eat the nuggets in the manboys car....while everyone stands outside the car and views it. What vomiting in his living room or his car is not a good thing??.
You mean, having his kids watch vomiting in the living room is not something he would be interested in?

You know what...ever since I saw the video of mission vomiting outside the mcdonalds....I am turned off from that place. I think of that image when I pass a mcdonalds...and keep driving. To me its disgusting...not good clean fun.

but if someone does something disgusting on wov, making the site, unappetizing .....you bet the person gets booted off.

hypocrites

 

It seems to me that in focusing on the threat of possible vomitus, you miss the important points: the challenges are a SOCIAL activity, a GAMBLING activity.

I enjoyed the WoVCons for those same two reasons.

You are of course free to hurl your lightning bolts of negativity, but WoVers are equally free to ignore them and to continue doing as they please.

Me, I've little desire to participate in or attend such a challenge, not my cuppa, but I enjoy the camaraderie spending time with a group of like-minded people offers, be they gamblers, fellow hobbyistss, car lovers, stoners.

At the end of the day most of us find value in the company of others; what sets us apart is the activities we as a group choose to engage in.

Heck, I bet even those fools in ISIS feel pretty full of themselves due to the reinforcing properties of group think.

People are a work in progress: there is no operator's manual.

Remember, it wasn't all that long ago that our ancestors lived in caves.

 

LarryS, do you actually believe and feel that way, about the things you're saying? Or are you taking the devil's advocate stance?