Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

I laughed my ass off reading it. Picturing me muttering "motherfucker this" and "motherfucker that" as I pedal my petty ass off into the sunset. That's comedy gold XD

But he's not wronged me, despite your belief that he has. Plus, you're closer to Tazmania than I am to him. That's one fuck of a bike ride.

 

Found the info on some web page. Took me a while to relocate, the info is here;
http://www.casinonewsdaily.com/2016...-founder-joshua-chan-reveals-success-formula/

More info here;
https://casinoslots.net/news/dec-2014/interview-with-the-wizard-of-odds

Fair point, firstly it is not possible to go back and remove / edit posts even if I agreed with your sentiment. Secondly, this info is very easy to locate, you simply google manBoy address, many sites pop up such as spokeo, peoplefinder, thatsthem, whittle results to Nevada, age 50~ish (he said as much himself) weed out the other Shacks (cross-check other sites to confirm, just like beeched whale cross-checks IP's) and bingo, positive +EV.

Many sites provide this information, there just happened to be a phone number listed on thatsthem, wherever it is valid, I've no idea. Then if you want to see what his house looks like, pump the address into Google maps (something I do for various reasons, such as selling on EBay i.e not sending parcels to industrial sites so you can be ripped off for non-delivery).

But hang on a minute, manboy I'm assuming has associated his home address with "wizard of odds gaming consulting", so it appears that at some stage in the past (post LCB maybe), he actually wanted to people to know this is where his business operates from?
I really don't think Google has linked WoOGC with a street address by it self, how would it know?

Sure, manboys intent was not for the info to be reproduced in a thread such as this, however it's rather ambitious to be expecting that public information be displayed in one place and not another in 2016 and the age of the internet. The google map info also happens to display a phone number, usually it doesn't, unless it is a registered business address. Businesses do this so potential customers / clients can find them, if manBoy forgot to de-register, disengage, I am not to know that. Maybe he still does (seeks) consultancy work while running McNugget contests.

Nothing untoward, no private eye involved, no drive by or stake out involved in gaining this info, not even the dark web, just public information which is readily available on the net.

 

LOL, this is what Joshua expectation was;

Wonder how he feels that' working out for the trio that invested? "Solo diet contest, McNugget challenges ending with puking, a divorce thread, GLBT, am I a good person, suspensions continue, retarded rules continue, mod fantasizes about morning erections while cross-checking everybody's IP and reading every single post, somehow not what I think they had in mind, but what can they do?

I'd have people knocking on my door if I were in his shoes and behaved like that, but he paid anyway, Karma if you like.

Now he posts unconvincingly that he can lose $5 ~ $10k daily on the stock market and it is like water off a ducks back. I don't believe it for one minute. If there was even a semblance of truth in his claim, then his wife must not know about it. Working for $40k pa, yet hubby is claiming to blow $5k ~ $10k daily on stocks occasionally and not batting an eye lid. He isn't Rockerfella and it was unconvincing that way he just threw it out there for the "ohh look at me" impact. Also it would be another diss for his mods, who he didn't reward, despite willing to settle for $2M, the extra 350k was just a bonus and not a deal breaker, not that he ever thought of breaking into that as a thank you, yet can post blowing $10k on the stock market.

As you say Frisk, he has not wronged you, yet he could have done a lot more for all of the mods for looking after things in his absence everything considered.

 

If you are talking about actual playing. I believe he's only interested in local higher limit lucrative plays. That's not easy to come by, even then people usually keep that stuff to themselves. There's also a chance he could bring attention to the play.

Unless he is going to spend a significant amount of time scouting it's difficult at best.
You kinda need a team and a network for such things.

He does a significant amount of football. his FB winning percentage is very good.

 

Taken from interview after the big sell.

Surely there has to be some introduction of editorial control for things to improve.

Thank Christ after the comma they mentioned casino games. God forbid he starts explaining the meaning of "Happy Ending" on other LCB web-sites and the McNugget contest goes international.

There ya go, his home is also his business address, he may not like those details being posted in this particular thread, but they certainly aren't private. So I guess there may be more solo, research trips, happy ventures around the global, how many times can one step into a casino and expect to experience something different, from Canada to Tassi they are all the same.

A nice romantic break in Costa Rica playing Doctors and Nurses with Mrs Wizard sounds more appropriate than hanging out with ladies of the night in Panama City.

 

So assuming Zuga is not an alias (who knows), means they are not a co-owner.

Owners are Josh, young Aussi entrepreneur, Jem a female, and Nik possibly a female, but you never know, could be short for Nikos, Nickolas, anyway, worst case, two female owners of WoV. From a female prospective I wonder how they feel about images of prostitution, the manager explaining that a Happy ending is actually a wank and the price is... Confessions of manboy hanging out with hookers in the name of research, hunting a young Asian chick in Sydney, being the first off the block with Juice Jenny, leering at Angela, sexism and creepiness. Now some women may think; to each their own and that is men for you, but not when such frat mentality is impacting on your $2.3M investment.

It's hard not to see the conundrum manBoy is in, he is expected to write gambling articles, but there is only so much one can write about BlackJack and he has said it all anyway other than tales from the table. It's not like there is a plethora of new casino games to analyses. So instead he writes about uni-cycling, rather than Roulette, Baccarat, Craps or Sic-Bo even, cos' he doesn't subscribe to these games, would rather discuss divorce, eating 200 McNuggets (guaranteed puke value), is a dating site girl still single (decent topic for a married man with kids). If he's into sports betting, why doesn't he do "lay betting, arbitrage", articles, or maybe he just looking for a way out and sneaking back to Panama?

 

Nik is Zuga.... Nikola Zugic from Belgrade, Serbia.

 

What you guys keep missing is WOV is not very important to them it only compliments WOO i wouldn't be surprised if its a loss leader. I think the site would need some major overhauling and go in an entirely different direction to really add any significant value. Once Mike started adding more casinos might have motivated them as well so. Adding the top 10 online casinos to WOO could've really hit their pockets. Simple google blackjack strategy, Video Poker strategy, baccarat strategy they all come up on top, most anything with gambling strategy and many other gambling searches bring up WOV. That has significant value so Simply Buying out the competition seems like the way to go.

Ill say it again THEY DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT WOV when it comes down to it. All this petty crap that's being pointed out is meaningless to them or anyone because he he's adding a significant amount of value to WOO and LCB not to mention he keeps getting offers and deals all the time.

People who gamble want to WIN that's all they give a shit about, that's what brings them to the site. EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST NOISE TO THEM. No one important or valuable to the site, or him cares about his personal life, who gets nuked, how he runs the site, what he does or doesn't do or any of that other insignificant BS. I'm so confident in his gambling support base that I believe could stand on New York’s fifth avenue shoot somebody and still not lose any potential customers/gamblers.

I guarantee if Mike stops participating on WOV it will take a serious nose dive.

It's funny because I just got yet another PM from a new WOV member who came from this site. You guys are actually helping WOV as well as me and a few others originally from WOV(I received some valuable information). Much appreciated!!!

 

I tend to agree with KJ. Theposting of home address or pics of home, has little to do with the title of this thread.
It lends no info as to whether WOV is dying or not.
If you ask the mod to delete he will...if you present a reason. I did it once, and I guess the reason was suitable

there are crazy people out in this world, and I personally wouldnt want to make it easy on those crazies. I know THEY can do the research, but from my point of view, if anything happened to his home, or his family or even to him, .....I wouldnt want to even be 1 percent connected to it in that my info made it easy for someone else to commit an act.

As a founder of this thread, I could report the picture(or other personal info) as being "off topic"......and it would be removed . In fact anyone could do it. So if anyone would like to...including KJ.....go right ahead.

 

who ever said he should stop participating. What is suggested is he limits his participation to how the owners would prefer.
You know, write articles, and answer gambling rated questions.
And stay away from
suspending people based on "mood"
making up new rules on the fly in order to ban people
banning people with no reason given
administering uneven punishment based on views
allowing mods to administer punishment in a grossly uneven manner
Allowing beached whale to insult customers without punishment
belittling his wife
writing about prostitution
writing about massage parlors
getting involved in eating contests
getting involved in weight loss contests
backing off from using women as props and allowing posts about favorite body parts of women
waiving a tin cup and being viewed as dishonest....(why would someone follow a dishones person)

so axholewolf.......no one cares if he just sits in his home and pumps out 100 articles on math based gambling solutions. No one has suggested he stop doing that.

 

A very certain statement. On a topic where its just opinion (unless you want to cite some real correspondence with the owners)....your opinion is just that....an opinion. An opinion based on what?
In your opinion they make enough money from WOO that they dont give a shit about WOV? Then why dont they just close WOV....and have the link to wov...open onto WOO. Simple solution for a site they dont care about(according to you).

But over the last 2 years....that hasnt happened.

So obviously their actions show that they do give a shit about wov.

I just love people on the outside observing that another party makes enough money from one business...and therefore doesnt need another business. What a presumptuous pompous ass would even submit something like that.

Even if they make only 1000 dollars from clicks and participation on banners on WOV.....thats 1000 dollars out of their pocket if they throw the site away.

Its very valuable to have a site with the name "vegas" in it........it gets you a whole other set of searches when people are searching around the internet for vegas topics.

Yet you can state with a certainty that they dont give a shit about wov....its worthless.

Their actions say different.

 

Cheers for that, so two co-owners are female then. Maybe feminism and equality has some catching up to do in the East.

Nobody is suggesting anything crazy, even that comment made by a member here was said while strongly under the influence of alcohol and not taken seriously other than by shit stirrers. Has MC been approached by law enforcement asking for an explanation of his comment, has he fuck, just people who like to spread shit, bought it to manBoy's attention, who being a wuss, went into panic mode, losing control of his sphincter, reported it and out came the boo hiss hiss drama queens.

If anybody entertained those extreme ideas and I don't see why. Info would come via google or the white pages, not from some post in an 180 page obscure thread on some random gambling site, he's not exactly a John Lennon, I think some are being over dramatic.

Bet they do, WoV still generates revenue. Even IF it is meaningless to them, it's meaningful to you... What value is he adding to LCB? What new content is there on WoO other than "ask the wizard's 300th question", he admitted himself he's bored with answering gambling questions, my guess the frat mentality is out weighing any value he brings today, a lot of the recent game analysis is borrowed from others. Maybe snitches like arsy-royW might quit if manBoy left, no more badgering mods about "SP's", not that he ever added anything of value, a plus for the forum.

 

Again Larry is the only voice of reason here. Posting the Wizard personal info is BS. So many issues here but the biggest is these piece of shit owners either don't follow the forum or don't care. Maybe you can't be here 24/7 but then mods have a benefit.

Debating Mikes value to WOV, ownership percentages and stuff is nonsense compared to what is happening here. Again Freddy showed he is a scumbag, though that was never in doubt. Axel asked him to step up on WOV and be a good citizen, but he won't. Odds are he hasn't created a new ID since being banned as 1BB, but if he did it means more to him than stepping up like he asks other to.

Being banned from this site would be a gift from these owners. But as long as they see the possibility of making money, anything goes. Sadly this site is a cesspool owned by people who have no morals. Suing them if anything happened off the stuff they allow wouldn't work because odds are they don't $10,000 in assets to their name.

 

That bullshit, it is his business address, which also happens to be his residential address. How many businesses hide themselves? Businesses advertise to attract clients, manBoy did exactly that, attached Wizard of Odds Gaming Consulting including a contact number to a residential address (he could have used a PO box number, but he didn't). What people are upset about, is the fact it was mentioned here, on this site, in this of all threads. It is not personal info, it is business and very much public info. If it causes concern, manBoy needs to approach Google to disassociate his business from his residential address, it stands out like a place of interest (it already exists, can't it be reproduced, or just not here?). There is nothing he can do regarding the proliferation of people search sites that exist in AmeriKKKa, blame the NSA.

 

So Junk Kit, regarding America, when are you going to Junk it?

 

He's a guy...early 30s.

 

Yeah I did notice that afterwards, but decided best to swerve the thread for a bit.

 

Someone will have to explain how a forum that has 90% negative comments from it's members about online gamblingb
including complaints is good for their business model? It's already been asked that people don't post up their grievances until they have had a chance to negotiate. It's obvious any negative comments hurt them significantly.

Many other affiliate sites with forums have people who rave about their good experiences with said online casinos with a few negative comments mixed in. There's shills and touts that fluff up comments, no doubt online casinos/ affiliate sites hire people just for that reason. I have seen cases where a regular member builds up some credibility regarding online gambling they are loved and respected by the owners when suddenly they have a bad experience at one of the affiliate sites darlings. They refuse to be silent so they get tossed off and called liers.

There's enough chatter and positive comments for people to usually take a leap of faith. People are there looking for a reason/excuse to gamble online that's why they went their in the first place. It doesn't take much to convince them to jump in. WOV doesn't seem to have any positive comments it's very anti online gambling.You hear it over and over and over.

Just recently someone has complained about a BV $4000 non payment for months now. That's some really bad news even, At this point I would be leery of recommending anyone play there until that's been solved and explained. At this point I think WOV probably deters more than it encourages. Test it for yourself, go post up something like....Should I Gamble online is it safe? It would be far better for them if people just found WOO, read the BV recommendation and avoided WOV all together.

 

ROTFLMAO. Yes Larry, this(and ball washing) is your claim to fame and your legacy.*Z-Snap* You go girl!!

 

an elderly man doing that? be careful. But then you have a pharmacy tech that can bring you home some Ben Gay.

CARRY ON WITH THE "ROLLING"