Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

I seconded the invitation of "Rona" to check out WoV because the place can always use new blood.

New blood: makes the floor more slippery and the vampires howl.

 

Wait...what are we a talking about here? I am going to have to resort to my Denzel Washington line from the court room scene of the movie, Philadlephia "Can someone explain it to me like I'm a 6 year old?" (cause I don't have the slightest clue what is being suggested here)

 

It wouldn't surprise me that you have an oversized closet, but you won't find me in there. I gave up the closet life back in high school.

 

What's that supposed to mean? Is that a special term people use?

 

advice from a guy "modding" for free at a board whose member visits is down over 30 percent form 2 years ago.

My advice to the admin is to follow your business instincts. Wov was run by someone who claims not to be good at business...therefore his followers are just extension of his philosophies .

the admin is right....mods have their own friends that they give preferential treatment too, and their own interpretation of the rules, and their own idea if even tHEY want to enforce a certain rule..

Who the fuck wants to live in that type of community.
You can ignore insults in an open board like thisone. But you cannot ignore a spottily enforced police state when you see your neighbors taken away in shackles and chains for 3 days or more...in an uneven way.

And thats what the admin wants to ignore here....the uneven police state of Wov.

so admin.....keep up the good work...and remember....advice is always good to listen to...but then look behind the advice......and ask yourself......what experience is attached to that advice....and what are the customer numbers looking like

 

yes its a term for very large closeted gay people

 

People who can follow the rules mostly and are not ass-hats who love to cause problems, troll, flame, hurt, insult. You know what I'm talking about, you know dam well there are people who want to cause problems, especially for Administration or anyone they are jealous or envious of. Generally its people who are losers, bitter, unhappy with their own life or have problems.

Sure there will be some unfair shit even if you are a good boy, but that will work itself out 99%of the time, BIG DEAL IF YOU GET SUSPENDED FOR A FEW DAYS .

 

Oh, well, I'm not gay nor am I fat.

 

rules that are on a sliding scale for some is not of interest for customers of an establishment.

Once again

WOV needs to attract flies(people who click on the banners and sign up and gamble)

FLIES are attracted to sugar.
Articles provide some sugar, you know reviews, or game explanations, game simulators
Message boards provide sugar to attract flies.......we are customers that instead of providing money to the company..we provide our services(our time and effort and sometimes expertise) in exchange for out entertainment value and knowledge gain from each other....like a barter system..

So as a customer that provides my time and effort service do not accept being treated with uneven punishment.

there are others with no self respect who will take what they get...like spineless munchkins

 

Well, that's one way that one could measure success. There are other$.

I agree, the Admin should go with whatever he/she thinks is best. I'm just throwing suggestions out there. WoV is not the only place I have been an Administrator or Moderator, and I'm not telling the Admin how to turn a profit, (not my area of expertise, especially since I am discussing an ILP solution to something and making money was barely even a secondary goal there) but how we solved a problem at ILP that continues to be their solution to this day, I believe.

I also agree with your second sentence, that's why I suggested you could find someone with no interest in gambling whose only role is to Moderate impartially. They would be expected to refrain from taking part in the Forum with exception to Administration. Other than, perhaps post counts of Members, they would harbor virtually no biases.

You can ignore them, you can punish for them, or you can address them without actually punishing for them. I'm suggesting the third option because it gives the Forum a, 'Clean,' appearance to potential members without restraining uncensored discussion. I'm just saying, if you go to a Forum and the most recent posts in the top thread (in recents and in posts) is a bunch of people bitching about some other forums and filled with insults charged by personal appearance...I don't think everyone will immediately respect that as a serious gambling Forum.

If you'll kindly reread my post, you'll see that my advice was AGAINST any bans for this site. We already have a heavily moderated gambling Forum (us at WoV), there could be a niche for a completely uncensored Forum, fill the niche, but also look good to potential members in the process.

With all due respect, you're looking at one category. Aside from that category, you know literally nothing about the state of WoV.

 

You're welcome, I'm not surprised at all to find that you are one who is willing to listen to suggestions, regardless of whether or not you ultimately decide to go that route.

I mean, you have to do it one way or another if you want to have a Moderator. If your primary concern is having someone that takes interest in the community and the subject matter, then you do have to run a small risk of potential biases. If your primary concern is having someone who is impartial, then your best bet is having someone who is either unconcerned with the subject matter, or who is interested but would not post to the extent or for the purpose of, 'Making friends.'

I really believe that, with such a simple set of Rules, and if you continue to avoid banning for Personal Insults, or refuse to ban for the reasons that you currently do not ban, bias would not really be a concern. If the worst punishment that could come from personal insult is having the post moved to a different sub-Forum, then that's not a very serious punishment. The Member would also literally have nothing to argue if he/she could simply copy/paste the post, remove whatever the offending aspect of the post was, and repost it in the desired thread. The Member would lose perhaps thirty seconds doing something like that, would only have to change probably a few words.

You have to try new things sometimes, but I agree that paid Moderation would be an absolute last resort. You would also need to see some RoI, and I don't know how much this Forum is making right now and how much having a Moderator (in general) would improve profits. You could incentivize them to do a good job, maybe give them a percentage of any increases to revenues as opposed to a flat salary or hourly. I agree, though, most Forums do not have to (and do not) pay Moderators if that is the only thing they do.

I think the solution is a Moderator whose job it is to move offending posts into a Sub-Forum only viewable to Members. It worked on a Forum with a larger size than this, and we even still went with Bans at that Forum sometimes, if someone made Personal Insults in other than the Forum for that...but you wouldn't necessarily have to ban for that, just move posts.

 

(From a different thread)

I'm guessing that Rona doesn't mind too much if WoV has the occasional thread regarding women. Just saying.

 

I am guessing they see through her.

in same thread she contradicts herself

so she can quote a tired old adage..big deal

 

Not quite, Larry'sclitoris. How do you get 6000 Jews off a train? You stop at Auchwitz. Hahahaha! How do you get a jewish girl's number? Look on her arm. Hahahha! How was copper invented? Two jews fighting over a penny. Hahahaha!

Larry'sclitoris, don't think you will continue to disrespect people and it won't spew back on you. I'll pay any man $1000 to fuck Lary'sclitoris. He' a fat slob. No man will fuck him. He hasn't seen his pussy since he was three years old.

 

great jokes....I am sure people like KJ find them funny.
so keep it up/ Like I said...they are offensive, I label it as such, and move on.
what can I do....cry, get hysterical, have a stroke, get angry,.....wtf....life is too good. Only sick unhappy people would get angry from a anonymous person on a gambling board.

just another example where a sentence like "beached whale suspended someone today" seems rather tame.

 

A drunk, a Jew, and a gay man were in a bar

The drunk says "drinks are on me"

The Jew says "give me two"

The gay guy says "pretend I'm a rum and coke, handsome"

ha ha

*we comedians gotta tailor our material to fit our particular audience*

 

I use this as a prime example. Not specifically about MrV...But more specifically about human nature.

If someone "irks" you(the general "you") its ok to call them Fat Blonde
And if Jews Irk you(antiemites)....you can tell jew jokes. or wish holocaust death
If blacks irk you..you can use the phrase "cotton patch nigger" or "nigger"

there are people on this board that respond to people that "irk them" as equally as I respond to people on WOV that "irk" me

Let him that is without sin cast the first stone

you can pick how you deal with people who irk you.......but you cant pick for me.

Heck on another board, if you simply "irk" someone....you can be punished with suspension or nuking.

 

Not terrible at all. That's how All new members should be treated....not just those claiming to be 21 year old females.

Manboy must be thrilled at this latest member. Has he contacted her yet? Any plans to meet her for some blackjack? I'd cough up the 40 bucks to see that.

Mission/Pav/Pierce. You returned here under the guise of having your last name redacted from any posts....some nonsense about casinos taking action because or your writings. You were immediately accommodated because it was a reasonable request and the mods here are reasonable people. Yet, after all this time, both your full name and photo remain on a Wizard site. If only they were as reasonable over there.

It's obvious to some that you are lobbying for a mod position here and it's just as obvious why. You're trying too hard but it's entertaining nonetheless.