Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

The main attraction to this forum is this thread and the side drama that ensues from it.

The zen zone forum has more credibility and is more aimed at gambling than this one.....and that says a lot about this one, given how bad ZZF is.

 

alot og genralities and opinion. short on facts.

yet you are repeatedly here. So there must be a attraction.

you could never post something like this at wOV...even if it were true.

So doesnt it feel good to engage in a debate without the ax falling o your for "trolling" or "insuts" or "vulgar language"

doesnt it fee good not to have to walk on eggshells.

IT MUST............BECAUSE YOU KEEP COMING BACK

 

so given that.....what is the attraction to you thatkeeps binging your back

 

1:42 through 1:47 #1 to answer your question why...................

 

Perhaps admin should label RS "compulsive liar" as has happened to others whose mouth writes checks they can't cash.

Tough to tell the good guys from the bad without a score card.

 

RS comes from a website(WOV) where the above exchange would never occur. He would have been nuked.
And if someone came to WOV and made declaratios without proof.....he would be the first to cry the person should be banned....he would be crying " troll troll troll".

There is this idea at WOV that the mods there are so fragile, that questioning their actions would lead to some sort of meltdown. I dont know what the folks like MrV AXEL, RS redietz think would happen at wov if mods were questioned and then engaged in responses rather than punishment.

Anyone who reads the admins response here...its generally on target. There are facts and links and he knows his shit.And folks like RS just hurl generalities....like Nobody does this, and everybody know that, and this and that is worthless,,,,,,but no proof.

Imagine doing that at WOV. Where are the folks posting multiple times about the manboys support of Bovada that was proven to be cheating.
You would think that a day wouldnt go by without someone shoving that in his face. And his backing of other sites, and no one asks what he does to ensure that his seal of approval is worth anything. No one asks what the outcome was when someone complained about how they were treated by bovada. There have been cases.

So for the people that accept that conditions over there....to come here and speak about the admin here backing scammers....well what the fuck.
Bovada was a big scammer....where is the relentless badgering by Boz at WOV. Where is the anger by AXHOLEWOLF over at wov about shackelford backing a proven scammer. There is specific factual evidence at wov.

But they cant provide factual evidence over here. Yet they are prepared to fight a fight without ammunition.
But at WOV there is plenty of ammunition that they choose not to use.
What hypocrites.

 

You should take note how frequently (or rather, infrequently) I post on this forum. I'd much rather have a debate with someone who doesn't talk down on others, unfortunately, that's nearly impossible here.

 

I never said I don't like drama. I certainly don't come here for "the great wealth of information" that this forum boasts yet lacks.

 

Well, this is gonna be fun....

Where have I lied about you? I'm assuming you're going to back up this claim.

What "credible members" are there on this site? Please, don't make me laugh by saying LarryS, Freddy, or any of those other jokesters. Perhaps you should learn who is "credible" and who isn't, in the community, before making up a forum you know nothing about.

Again, you should figure out who is actually credible and who isn't. The entire world of gambling is NOT on this forum (actually, almost none of it is on this website). If the posts on this website are the criteria for what or how you'd determine someone as credible, you're already lost. That'd be like getting "credible sources" on evolution at a Sunday school filled with 8 year olds.

Except there IS NO demand for this type of forum, except the few outcasts that can't post on actual gambling forums or those who just want to talk shit about other forums and people. Just look at the most popular posters and the most popular threads and discussions. Are they gambling related? Or are they mostly drama? I come here and mostly just to read all the drama....the same applies to most other members here (by quantity of posts and time reading).

Not sure what kind of "growth of this forum" you're talking about....and it's certainly not even gambling related content (unless you consider turbogenius and gizmotron's posts "gambling content", lol).

I didn't call those people a crock of shit, I called the fact you posted it up on the forum as if it's some kind of achievement or that they actually post here, a crock of shit.

Mike Caro: 10 posts, last post almost 2 years ago.
Card Player Clueless "Linda Johnson": 2 posts, last post almost 2 years ago.
Tom McEvoy: 1 post, over 2 years ago.
Michael Dalton: 1 post, ~1.5 years ago.
Nathaniel Tilton: 1 post, almost 2 years ago.
Paccman: 2 posts, almost 2 years ago.
Catalin Barboianu: 1 post, almost 2 years ago.
Norbert Henze: 1 post, almost 2 years ago.
Dan Paymar: 91 posts, 4 months ago ----- this is the big exception.

Yes, I do enjoy drama. Why else do you think I, or anyone for that matter, come to this forum? Perhaps you're insecure that your "super gambling forum" is a total bust. I don't "continuously" post on this thread or even on this forum in general.

You didn't "prove" anything, if you didn't catch the hint, that post you blew out of proportion was made in jest. I had already read the rules and knew the conditions to give out the $5k (not that it matters whether I had read them or not). You could have simply responded with explaining the rules, if you thought I hadn't read them, with a link to how it works. Instead, you jumped the gun and went (and are going on) some long tirade.

The hell are you talking about? I don't know what kind of "evidence" or "facts" you expect. Unless you can show you have credibility to be running a gambling forum, other than running a bunch of other forums, I'm going to continue to believe you have no credibility to be running a gambling forum.

Here's one piece of evidence to show you don't have any credibility: Link <click>

Yes, I'm attracted to drama. Big surprise, I'm reading posts on this forum, aren't I? Are you going to bash me for being attracted to blackjack because I post on black jack the forum dot com? Reading/posting on this forum and liking drama go hand in hand. Yes, I am against the uncensored nature of this site, that doesn't mean I can't participate on this site. I am also against some of the things on BJTF, WOV, VCT (vegas casino talk), and other forums....I'm not sure that's enough to make me a hypocrite, though. I'm also a republican and oppose the death penalty -- that's the hypocritical RS, for ya!

Yes, I'm aware ZG is a member here, even though he hasn't been on the forum in about 6 months...and before that, nearly 2 years. I'm not sure why I would say that (ZZF has more credibility than this forum) to ZG....I'm not talking to him or about him -- I'm talking about this forum and its lack of credibility.

Again, where have I lied about you? Quite frankly, I don't care if you think I'm credible or not, it's not going to change my life in the least. I'm not saying I'm the most credible AP or that I'm famous or anything like that....but I would say my credibility (as well as mickeycrim, axelwolf, kewlj, and perhaps others I can't think of) far exceeds that of most of the posters on here (LarryS, Freddy, egalite, gizmotron, turbo, etc.) -- BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY GAMBLE AND AP FOR A LIVING. I know, that means nothing to you, most likely, as you're likely only interested in those who post a lot and cause a stir, like Larry & Freddy.

Concerning all the gambling stuff, the only people I care to have credibility with are REAL APs and gamblers, not some anonymous "admin" who runs a "gambling forum".


If I start a forum on knitting & crocheting, does that make me credible in the field, even if I tell others who are in the field that they aren't credible?

 

Yes my reply was all over the place because I kept leaving and coming back to it. I'm certain you got the gist of what I was saying. If there's something you didn't understand or you are wondering why I said it, just ask me.

Did you look into my GF's account and match her IP with mine. We use the same network, so you should have noticed that but apparently you didn't know or care. PM me the matching IP's or whatever proof you have. Perhaps you can explain why it wasn't detected especially since she didn't try to hide or mask anything.

You didn't really acknowledge the fact that JizmoCon has admitted he's selling crap. And its obvious he's tried to lure people to other sites.
You want Proof people have been scammed? Since I will never allow myself to get scammed by this kinda stuff I will not have proof.
The chances are that anyone who gets scammed is not going to embarrass themselves by telling anyone. Even if they wanted too, they probably wouldn't be the type of person who would think to retain any evidence. The scammers have ways to cover their scams and even convince the victims that it's their fault. Most of them don't even understand they got scammed. Again, anyone who is smart enough to figure it out would be embarrassed to tell anybody.They know there's little or nothing that can be done. Someone might also fear retaliation.

I know people who have been scammed out of 10's of thousands from guys on gambling forums and they won't go public for many reasons(I'm not saying the scams/cons started here. I'm certain the scammers have membership here and other forums as well. I know multiple people who have fallen for gambling systems scams but are embarrassed they even believed in that nonsense in the first place. The don't want to get razed and labeled an idiot.

I haven't tried to prove how easy it would be to create a sock puppet. Knowing the fox(wolf) is in the hen house I'm sure you'll be extra vigilant. I certainly couldn't sit and puppet myself without it being obvious(According to you obvious isn't enough?) Give me an open invitation and I will show you how easy it is to make an alias without you being able to prove with IP, fingerprints or whatever you call it.

Whatever the case I will refrain from using the word sock-puppet when I'm suspicious of someone and just say I find their account suspicious.
Like the suspicious amounts of females with whats most likely fake profile avatars.

 

I told you specifically to take his picks for just this weekend?

Please tell me you are not that gambling clueless to think a very small sample can be used to determine an advantage or disadvantage.

This is one aspect that separates Advantage Players from ploppys. The ploppys tend to focus on the short run.(That's how people get sucked into systems and sports touts, they see short terms win's and believe they are golden)

If Phil Ivey gets knocked out fast of his last 5 tournaments he must not be a good poker player?

If I have to put up $1 to win 10k on a coin flip and I lose 5 times in a row I'm a bad gambler because I lost?

I could give more examples but I think you get the point. You can't take a small sample and judge someones skills or an advantage or disadvantage. Had his picks won all the games would you have mentioned it? You're cherry picking to make some point. That's kinda lame don't you think? I would think you are smart enough to realize a few losing or winning picks are meaningless.

 

Axel, seriously dude, who the fuck cares if you are or are not an AP'er with you couple of buddies here. If someone is selling something don't buy it, case closed.

Okay Mr. Self-proclaimed AP'er who says in about 100 posts how professional and successful of a gambler he is on here. Who the fuck you have to convince and why??? Because of those statements and those repeated statements, you are an official douchebag voted on and solidified by numerous members of this fine forum.

Understand we seriously don't give a fuck as to what you think about others and why. But in every case it always boils down to the multi paragraph self-proclaimed statement as to how you a a genuine, great, professional AP'er.

Seriously, we don't give a fuck. Move on to something else now. Fuck man, repeatedly!

 

Ahh,you mad?

This coming from a known welsher that has more confided lies and made up stories(fairy tales )than fake accounts at WOV. Someone who was stalking members and basically ran off a popular member.

No one can take you seriously or believe anything you say.

Good luck with your fake lawsuit I have a feeling you'll need it to get out of the basement.

 

I just came across a very interesting, long forgotten WOV thread called "Feature Request: Full Top Contributors List". Page 3 of that thread has a link to WOV members by post count. It looks like it gets automatically updated every 24 hours. Very enlightening.

There are 7488 members listed...most with only a couple of posts. Out of those 7488 members only 109 have over 1000 posts. Included in that 109 are well over a dozen banned members, some banned years ago.

For example, Buzzard comes in at number 12 and BuzzPaff comes in at number 24. Check it out and you'll see that the ones with the most posts are not necessarily the sharpest knives in the drawer. And remember when you see Ibeatyouraces close to the top that over 6000 of his posts say "deleted" and nothing else. That's the quality they have over there. If only there were more prostitution threads or math problems about taking a dump.

 

Axelwhore, Your love for other members of forums is unbelievable! Your life is a forum, LOL!

Anyway, you have no right and no knowledge of anything with my lawsuit. You are creating lies. BTW, I have one of the best and most respected law firms handling it with co-counsel as well. I was examined and treated by one of the most respected spinal surgeons in the city. As well, examined by the defensives medical team and they are in 100% agreement with ours. LOL, AP'er, now you are a legal professional and without reviewing all the evidence and documents, you have written my lawsuit is a fake. Nice lie without proof!

Once again, you are a douchbag for the reasons I stated.

 

It's hard to tell with all your lies I assume you are faking it since you said it's been going 3 years, but IIRC(too lazy to look at the timeline) you were on the job within the last 3 years having employees die in your arms in the field).

Agian, one just needs to follow your posts and aliases on WOV, starting with you surviving the famous Ballys(?) fire and ending with looking for a man date at a gay bar in Vegas, to see you make shit up. I do believe you were looking to meet up for gay sex in Vegas

 

The gay TS stuff was posted in partly in pun, whatever, all good.

3 Years on the lawsuit, sure--takes that way to wind through the courts, whatever you want to say and make up. You are 100% guilty right here of perpetuating assumptions and lies and attempting to pass them off as your understand gospel truth.

We were in the bar and saw the TS's, no need to explain past that.

Just one thing and that is it for a bit...."You assume I was faking it", so you accuse me of a fake lawsuit. Okay, you are a well informed citizen and member of the board here. It is evident you base your assumptions of the real evidence and documents and statements. I am sure you do the same in all of your claims against other members, even if they are selling something. In realty, it is more like, so and so said something was a fake when he purchased it so I will post that and call the seller a liar, based on another person's thoughts, which might or might not be true.

Once again, who the fuck cares about so and so we don't even know. Who the fuck cares what you think???

We can meet over at Casi Di Amore when I am there, I really do want to go face to face with you. I would have a field day with that one, I would even buy you drinks and food, it's all good..........

 

Quoted from Axel above thread:
"You didn't really acknowledge the fact that JizmoCon has admitted he's selling crap. And its obvious he's tried to lure people to other sites.
You want Proof people have been scammed? Since I will never allow myself to get scammed by this kinda stuff I will not have proof".

Question: Are you the fucking police of the internet?? Seriously, cant the victim complain or contact whatever board Admin he was on when he purchased this stuff??? Seriously, is this a matter for this board????