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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    6th, For one thing as my charting method allows me to monitor 6 different EC's at once, made up of 12 sets. I bet to win from $270 to $630 per session. This is all done with $5 chips. I start out with $700 worth of chips, 7 stacks. If I lose these 7 stacks then that session is done for the day. On these situations where I notice that the weak side is hitting singles I bet one chip for each of the 18 numbers in the set that I'm betting on to win, $90. I don't try to get all three net wins right then. I grind down a winning session. But when I do see strong streaks of the strong side I go for three at a time. If I see a swarm of doubles on the strong side I go for two at a time. This slow grinding method is meant to reach at least 3 net wins. I only go for more when the streaks are really strong on the dominant side, like the second example where Blacks dominate. I try trend starting bets after about two repeats of any characteristic with full knowledge that it might only go one more cycle. I try to see the biggest picture of the trend and just take a little bight of it. All this is monitored to see if I'm actually winning more than losing. The effectiveness state. That is the biggest picture.
     
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    i understand that..but again a step by step basis if someone was willing to put a number one up at a time from a real spin data say a german site that can be linked to later so not to show they are making numbers up would probably prove that you can do what you can teach..after the fact is good...running results would guarantee you can do what y ou say on the tin,,,units bet each spin and what on...the data file could be shared after so many spins and its source..so they can,t tamper results..and you can,t curve fit,,,that would be awesome...
    that would quench any disbelievers
     
  3. gizmotron

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    I have practice software that puts down the bet I made and the result for each spin that is bet. It includes virtual spin result data on non monetized bets too. But none of that matters regarding proof anymore. It is not I that must prove it works but the student that must prove to me that they can do it. This last student proved to me that I could create a winner in just 60 hours of instruction and live practice in front of me. I'm not teaching anymore. It served its purpose. I don't need the $8.33 per hour. I'm also only going to put people on to how I read randomness. I showed you the chart. I've published the sets and groupings. I'm talking about the characteristics. I've told you the MM tactics. It's up to you to take it further. You can use index cards that you fill in yourself while you play against live spins. It takes time but you can prove everything to the one that needs the real proof, you. If you can't see the characteristics then you can't see potential opportunities. That is a skill all on its own. I showed you the blue print. It's up to you guys to see the structure. What is that stupid line these days: "I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you."
     
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    no unsterstanding it for me from you..just asking if you can do it yourself on a running basis with a source file....no need for real proof for me myself to invest time into it if a teacher can,t actually show me the running concept in the way i described..again no disrespect to you..
    otherwise it could as everyone else who says this method works ..but you are not doing it right..and i,m not willing to tell you excactly how..
    so again are you willing to say what it does on the tin..
    if you can..i,ll listen to you..if not...no problem
     
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    6th, I get it. You want to see examples. OK, I will run my teaching software myself and attempt to win my 3 net wins. It takes 2.33 sessions at 3 net win to balance a single lost session at 7 net losses. Virtual bets are designated with a hyphen, "-" and the win loss amount does not change. Otherwise you will see a "X" for a win or blank for a loss in the W column of the charts.

    I tend to win 4.66 to 5 sessions per lost session. You will see where I have changed what I bet on at the end of each line. So I will run a session and post it.
     
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    Would be better with someone doing a spin by spin basis on here as I described and you after each spin telling them what you are betting on and how much
     
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  7. gizmotron

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    OK, I just won a 3 net win session. I hit my winner and then goofed off a while and then came back and one the net 3 at the end.

    Code:
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     W | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |  --  SN  --  SP 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  01  --  19  No Bet
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  02  --  30  No Bet
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  03  --  05  No Bet
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  04  --  18  No Bet
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  05  --  15  No Bet
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  06  --  06  No Bet
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  07  --  24  No Bet
     nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  08  --  37  No Bet
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  09  --  04  No Bet
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  10  --  29  No Bet
     X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  11  --  28 ( $ 90 ) Black
     X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  12  --  04 ( $ 175 ) Not Specials
     X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  13  --  26 ( $ 265 ) High
      -|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  14  --  01 ( $ 265 ) Black
     X-|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  15  --  16 ( $ 265 ) Not Specials
       | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  16  --  15 ( $ 170 ) Not Specials
      -| X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  17  --  08 ( $ 170 ) Not Specials
     X-| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  18  --  06 ( $ 170 ) Not Specials
       |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  19  --  25 ( $ 75 ) Not Specials
       | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  20  --  11 ( $ -20 ) Not Specials
       |    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  21  --  23 ( $ -115 ) Not Specials
       | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  22  --  08 ( $ -210 ) Not Specials
     X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  23  --  19 ( $ -125 ) Not Specials
     X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  24  --  18 ( $ -40 ) Not Specials
     X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  25  --  36 ( $ 45 ) Not Specials
       |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  26  --  21 ( $ -50 ) Not Specials
     X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  27  --  01 ( $ 35 ) Not Specials
     X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  28  --  28 ( $ 120 ) Not Specials
       | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  29  --  10 ( $ 25 ) Not Specials
       |    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  30  --  23 ( $ -70 ) Not Specials
     X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  31  --  01 ( $ 15 ) Not Specials
     X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  32  --  19 ( $ 100 ) Not Specials
       |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  33  --  21 ( $ 5 ) Not Specials
       |    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  34  --  23 ( $ -90 ) Not Specials
       | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  35  --  08 ( $ -185 ) Not Specials
       |    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  36  --  23 ( $ -280 ) Not Specials
     X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  37  --  26 ( $ -195 ) Not Specials
     X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  38  --  04 ( $ -110 ) Not Specials
       | X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  39  --  08 ( $ -205 ) Not Specials
     X |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  40  --  34 ( $ -120 ) Not Specials
     X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  41  --  14 ( $ -35 ) Not Specials
     X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  42  --  01 ( $ 50 ) Not Specials
       | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  43  --  35 ( $ -45 ) Not Specials
       | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  44  --  13 ( $ -140 ) Not Specials
     X |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  45  --  34 ( $ -55 ) Not Specials
     X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  46  --  03 ( $ 30 ) Not Specials
       |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  47  --  21 ( $ -65 ) Not Specials
       |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  48  --  37 ( $ -160 ) Not Specials
     X |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  49  --  16 ( $ -75 ) Not Specials
       | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  50  --  11 ( $ -165 ) Zeros
     X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  51  --  14 ( $ -75 ) Zeros
     X |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  52  --  14 ( $ 15 ) Zeros
       |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  53  --  25 ( $ -80 ) Not Specials
     X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  54  --  01 ( $ 5 ) Not Specials
     X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  55  --  26 ( $ 90 ) Not Specials
       | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  56  --  33 ( $ 0 ) Red
       |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  57  --  37 ( $ -90 ) Red
     X |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  58  --  12 ( $ 0 ) Red
       | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  59  --  06 ( $ -90 ) Red
     X |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  60  --  21 ( $ 0 ) Red
       | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  61  --  17 ( $ -90 ) Red
     X |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  62  --  01 ( $ 0 ) Red
     X |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  63  --  16 ( $ 90 ) Red
       | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  64  --  29 ( $ 0 ) Red
       | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  65  --  17 ( $ -90 ) Red
     X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  66  --  07 ( $ 0 ) Red
     X |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  67  --  25 ( $ 90 ) Red
       | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  68  --  13 ( $ 0 ) Red
       | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  69  --  26 ( $ -90 ) Red
     X |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  70  --  07 ( $ 0 ) Red
     X |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  71  --  34 ( $ 90 ) Red
     X |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  72  --  36 ( $ 180 ) Red
     X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  73  --  04 ( $ 265 ) Not Specials 
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't have time to do what you want. Take it or leave it. I don't give a hoot. I'm not going to baby sit you at a casino either. Get real.

    That chart I just put up shows how much I bet and where on each spin. It shows the virtual bets too. If this is not good enough then get somebody to walk you through it for you.
     
  9. Junket King

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    You talking present day, or some time gone by?

    What casino would give a player $700 in $5 chips? Not one where I have played, and I have played in many. Besides I thought you said you were playing online?? Never mind. ares...

    My sentiment entirely.

    Of course you don't, but you have the time to type endless "after the event" data, run utterly meaningless sims, hey I'll tell you what, I know you get around other sites, link me up one thread, were board members took you seriously. Just one....

    Spike wannabe (I do recall that thread over at GG)
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Idiot, a stack of $5 red chips is worth $100. Seven stacks are $700. Each table has at least six unique table colored chips that can be valued at $5 each. And I can buy in with casino chips if I want to every place I have ever played. The table's colored Roulette chips usually count out as 10 to 15 stacks each. You have been in a casino, right?

    I just ran a real session and posted it. You see dumbfuck, I built the sim, the practice software, to be real world and with real world consequences. Unlike you I don't think it is worth much to lie to myself in order to practice. But all this is garbage to you anyway, right?

    So you are the standard for what real is. Prove it magic man.

    I left Spike in the dust. I shared what I am doing. He kept it all as some kind of super secret. I published the characteristics of randomness. And I am fully aware how difficult it is to master trend based betting. But none of that matters anyway stupid. Because somebody is going to master my method and then you will have two sons of bitches to harp about. And you are dumb. First magic beliefs and superstitions, and now you have never seen a $700 buy in with $5 chips. Your pissed off attitude doesn't help much either. You are no threat.
     
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    No I've never been in a casino, I'm a broke ass loser who can no longer afford to gamble, so I invent fantasies on the web.
    Anybody handing over $700 or £700, ain't gonna be given their buyin in $5 or £5 chips by a dealer, numb nuts.

    yes, "after the event, look back" nonsense generally is. If you were making anything doing whatever, you wouldn't be bothered trying to skim $8 teaching this crap..

    No you didn't, he actually tore you a new arsehole. It's all there in print on the GG site, good look.

    Yes I've seen a $700 buyin, but have never seen it paid in entirely in $5 chips, first off a normal chip tray wouldn't hold that many $5 chips, AND if it did, they wouldn't want to give them all to one delusional punter, then informing the pitboss they require a fill, because some numb-nuts took them all. Besides you play online right to avoid some hundreds of miles round trip?

    Still waiting for one link, just one will do, were fellow members subscribed to this nonsense..

    Never mind...
     
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    Did you know that $700 in $5 chips is only 140 chips? They have at least 200 or more $5 chips at all the casinos near the west coast of the USA. They have 240 to 300 special Roulette table chips at these casinos for each unique color too. And some times I buy in with 200 chips at a time.

    You are some kind of a magic man.
     
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    So you want proof before you will allow yourself and anyone that follows you to look at this? Control freak, same issues as your beloved Glenda, it's actually fun to watch you in action. So your BS doesn't stink. Where's the proof that you won what you claim you won today?
     
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    Now you really are losing the plot.

    Recall that post I made yesterday about winning 12 losing 6 bets (off to good start), probably not. So here is the link
    https://www.gamblingforums.com/thre...ncepts-for-rustyshackleford.14731/#post-75021

    And here is the page I was referring to (note the matching W's v's L, as per my post)

    __start.jpg

    The figure circled is the starting balance of the shoe. This wasn't the first session BTW, I started on the Friday, rather it is referring to a post made on this board as proof.

    And here is the the last shoe played before I came here to argue the toss with you.

    __end.jpg

    Note the closing balance in RED. Don't suggest I've gone to faking those pages to prove a point.

    Now that I've gone to so much effort and considering you have a footprint on many forums, how about you provide me with just one link, were fellow established members (wet behind the ears newbies don't count), have taken any of your "after the event, look back" nonsensical posts seriously.

    Like i say, just one link will suffice.

    Waiting......
     
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    It would be better. I need a live wheel that everyone trusts. I need to post the next bet before they post the next spin somehow. I know that Germany has a live feed of several wheels. I can't trust anyone here to post real spins because they might have an agenda to manipulate and rig the game. Here is a way though. Somebody gets a private copy of spins and uses a hash function on them before the test and then later the string of spins can be confirmed afterwords that the string was not altered in any way after the session.

    Ref: "Hashing algorithm. A hashing algorithm is a cryptographic hash function that maps data of random size to a hash of a specific size. ... The basic idea is to use a deterministic algorithm that takes in one input and generates a fixed length string every time. As a result, the same input will always give the same output."
     
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    You don't get to dictate how I prove my points. That might work for you in a safe world of liberal mumbo jumbo but I prefer to do it my way. In your face proof is far better than pictures that are blacked out and could easily have been fabricated just like junk science is. Anyway, you believe in magic unproven skills. Why should anyone believe you now, or ever for that matter.
     
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    Here is an example of this process of hash:

    1,12,23,36,10,10,37,2,14,25,32,18,12,

    Hash = 7c992b1ec8c351af5b85fd34264feae363d04cd610c45da63e0e1680aae08ee7

    From this online hash source: https://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/sha256.html

    So after the test anyone can enter the spins used in the test and the hash should match.

    The person giving out the spins would publish the hash first.
     
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    I'm still waiting Marko where anybody paid any sort of thank you to your elegant pattern bullshit.

    Just throw up a single link.. Otherwise you're just one more demented washed up broke-ass player, vying for attention.

    Nice how you weaselled out of 6th's challenge, by adding complexity to making it not worth anybody time, typical.

    Hey, there is no need to promote this crap, it was done to death on the GG board and you got laughed out of town, no need to rehash [pun intended] the past, stop embarrassing yourself by trying to emulate Spike.
     
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    I don't actually care that you are magic minded. You tell me just what it would take to satisfy your neediness. How would you be able to stand the possibility that the person giving me spins here was not in cahoots with me? You do in fact gravitate that way. I welcome 6th's test. I just want people that actually think to validate it once it is done. As far as past students go. Why have almost all of them remained silent regarding it. I have all the emails from the last student, that's the only student that was trained on the EC software. I know that person is the living proof. It really only took one person to prove that I can teach anyone that is willing to learn it. You are the garbage police though. Your goal is to prevent this from coming out because somehow that is a direct threat to you. I find that funny. There is no point in calling you an asshole because you are doing a magnificent job of illustrating that yourself. You act so wounded. I'm amazed at how protective you are acting. Something here is not quite right. 6th is actually on to how this should be done. I should do at least 20 session so that everyone can see for themselves my win to loss ratio. The same goes for you dickhead. You do a live test for all the world to see. Let's really see you in action. I require an unquestionable and no chance for cheating test from you. I suggest that you bone up on hash functions. We need someone that hates your racist guts that will deal cards to you. That would be a fair test. Those cards must be shuffled, placed in a text document, and hashed before each session. The hash must be published right here for proof that no tampering took place. Get a brain idiot juice. This is how real people validate proof. Don't run and hide either. People here can walk you thru this validation and proof process. It's so easy that Glen can figure it out.
     
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    Someone needs to get their hands on say 100 spins, single zero wheel. I would list them as comma delimited with no empty space, example: 1,34,5,23, Don't include any carriage returns or line breaks. The last character should be a comma. Copy the list to be used in the session and hash convert it telling everyone the link where you did the hash function. Post the hash before the session starts. Give me the first 10 spins in order to save time. I always chart the first 7 to 10 spins with no bets just to get a grasp of the current trends. I will then make a guess as to what the next winner will be and from what group of 18 to 19 numbers will be in the winning group. All chip values will be in $5 chips where 18 numbers bet on to win will be $90. I will end all sessions once I reach 3 net wins, around $260 to $270. I will end all sessions that reach -$630 or around that number. In that way I can do what I say I can but not teach why I select what I do. For some reason people need proof first or they won't consider this. I feel the same way about global warming. Prove it first, then I will consider it. That's just the way people are. So the basic groundwork is established if any of you consider this a fair test.
     

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