Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Definitely not members.

 

youre right, nothing of the calibre of wov posts here.....I'll go scarf down 53 big macs and puke my guts out...........film at 11

 

Haha if members here want to read about REAL street~wise AP'ing they can always pop over to the public WoV, unfortunately though it appears the most active thread is a bunch of old farts discussing who's been suspended, even the "WoV is dying" thread has gone, but "who is Larry S remains"!!! There is even a GLBT and Adult section, "a free speech zone AND an off topic section" yipee. But go the 'table games' section, trawl the threads, the bulk of the names are RED, sends a fantastic message for potential casino affiliates who actual do offer casino games other than Blackjack.

It's a joke of a gambling board that exists as well as being specifically designed for an increased click count so it can attract casino advertising revenue, while sending the wrong message to advertisers. Kept alive due to a few die-hard 21 players while stepping on egg-shells, there is no value to what gets posted over there nowadays for any wannbe AP.

 

"You like me, you really like me!" - Sally Field

Want it signed? You can tell them "you knew him when". Doubt I'll ever be famous, but I wouldn't count me out of becoming infamous. Might freeroll yourself right into a Hitler's painting scenario.

 

What the hell does that mean? Is it some kind of mid-west street cred colloquialism brah? Do you feel me bro?

Anyway shouldn't you be busy checking new member IP's against banned members IP's, you might find a match and get a bonus from the Wizard, oh wait... that won't work.

 

It's hilarious
People come over from wov and comment about me and engage me in debate and then complain that I keep posting.
They want to comment without being countered I suppose.
And they don't arrive here all at the same time so I get a lot or repeat questions and comments...and I guess I am supposed to just direct them to the previous 70 or 80 pages.
And 2 mods come here from a board that allows insults to any and all banned former members....and says insults directed toward wov ' ers are not appropriate. Wov has no such request of its members to hold back against banned folks. But people come here and want that cosideration.
They would rather poke a bear with a stick from the outside of a sturdy cage.

 

Hey Mr Frisk, I just want to let you know and apologize. I was not aware that that Frisk = Face and you can't go back and edit or remove posts on this board. You are indeed cool, man, we've exchanged PM's over at the WoV, I still don't understand the Hitler painting comment? I bear no ill will towards you bro. I went back and read some of your posts here, wasn't aware of your heritage, just wanna say you are in good company with two of my fav' male and female performers, James Brown and Chaka Khan both having ancestral tribal blood lines.

How on earth do you tolerate those uneducated Trump supporting bigots bumaclats shouting "we want our country back", "make America great again", give them a history lesson.

Peace brother..

 

It's the weekend of the 4th, I was a bit intox =) I think I was saying I would autograph it for you in the case that I ever became infamous and maybe you could score a few bucks, but whatever cuteness I though I had in my haze seems to have parted in the light of day. And I very rarely mess with IP's as it just isn't worth it. The whole suspension list could sock right back in and I wouldn't bat an eye, just as I never do when Buzz comes back for the hundredth time. You don't really think I'm so blind as to not see the at least 6 socks that are currently active? I just don't care. Socking is not a mortal sin to me. My goal is to try to direct the forum towards propriety and decorum. I don't add (much) gaming knowledge and I'm legit retarded at even high school math. I just feel I'm pretty OK at putting out fires and I like to try to bring out the best in people, so that's where I put MY effort. Sometimes it works, sometimes I learn something. I dunno, I enjoy it =)

I appreciate the apology and no worries. While I can't say that I enjoy any ol person to start ripping my stuff and posting it any ol where, I'm young enough to have grown up in this age and realize it's possible. Nothing is secret, so I suppose I should thank you for a little peek into how it COULD get.

As far as supporting "Trump bigots", I'm not sure what you mean. I do consider most of his WoV supporters as "friends", but Trump himself has no redeeming qualities in my eyes. I have stated I wanted him to win, but it's not because I support him. I do think he is tearing / will tear apart the GOP, which, I gotta be honest, can only be good for my country. I suppose you could say I do lean right, might even be considered a bona fide righty, but I do not consider myself as such because I find the GOP to be a laughable joke. It'd be nice (for me) to destroy them and hopefully get another shot at getting a decent representative body on the right side, and I think Trump might cause that. I also think he would cause a good bit of disruption, and as I am planning a coup, I could really use the chaos to assist my plans

Any other support of him that comes from me is just my disgust at everything American politics has become. He's pompous, brash, arrogant, ignorant, and a Grade A twat. But he's not a politician. I think, should he make it to the seat, that he'll likely be as self serving and narrow minded as we all suspect. But at least with him, he won't be pretending that he's not. In other words, if you're going to fuck me over, do it to my face.

But seriously, pay no mind to any political post I make. I don't understand it and I don't want to. Ain't never voted and have no plans to. I'm either gonna pull off this coup, die trying, or wind up living off the grid somewhere desolate where I none of this matters. Any political opine I make is severely lacking in facts and/or knowledge; it's just me barking hoping to influence someone who knows something.

 

you do realize how what you posted can be misconstrued.

You don't mess with IP's as it is just not worth it, implying those that do...........?

Now view it from the bitter bints viewpoint, many of whom feel is responsible for the flack the site receives. You are a fellow mod, however you are over here getting along fine with everybody. Loyalty? I was in a situation were I was having a constant run in with a dealer, we hated each other, somebody I know both in and out of the casino turns up and is talking to her constantly all friendly, I thought about it afterwards, he knew about our constant run ins 'cos I told him, so he went out of his way to be nice to her, in his own way he was dissing me.

Her ego is so weak, it is a given she reads this thread, maybe she will learn something beyond the futility of searching for duplicate IP's.

 

Hehe, wasn't trying to imply anything. I have messed with IP's before, it's a terrible PITA. It's kind of funny now that you got me thinking of it; much of being a mod seems to be a terrible PITA, at least as far as the actual work goes. Stuff like IP's and updating that damnable list is just the pits. It's starting to dawn on me that, just maybe and at least as far as modding goes, it is my laziness that has been the kingpin of my success

But I can't say I follow the rest of your post. I know BBB has made some decisions that others haven't agreed on. I see it right on WoV. But I certainly don't understand the animosity or breaking out of pitchforks that has gone on because of it. The IP thing, ok sure, I can see how one could view that as a little... petty? Maybe? But let me spin it around. I'm going to assume you're one of many that hates EvenBob (or Spike, if you're a GG'er). There are plenty still today that think he's nothing but a ball of negativity, just a curmudgeonly old fuck wiling away his days on some roulette system that is fundamentally impossible to exist. Many have said he does nothing but shit on every thread there is. Many think he is unfit to engage in discussions involving higher math and logic, which I would suppose is WoV's bread and butter.

If you had the reigns, wouldn't you maybe try just a little bit harder to clean that bit o'dirt from your view?

I'll admit, I've done exactly that. Take someone like Garnabby (pretty sure you know him). His thoughts did not meld with the mindset there, as they dabbled a bit into the superstitious, if not supernatural. As such, he got piled on and was eventually ousted for it. But while I agreed with the sentiment that the guy had nothing as far as a real system, I had no problem whatsoever with his attitude, decorum, or how he conducted himself. Eccentric, sure, but I wouldn't even begin to label him an asshole. To be honest, I rather enjoyed him (and took my own lumps because of it). A guy like that socks back, he can have at it as far as I'm concerned. He's not a shit starter, so I have no problem. But there are others who, whether by design or just a quirk in their personality, stir shit up. You know the types. Like maybe an Ahigh. Not out to start shit, but absolutely the most polarizing, biggest lightning rod I've seen over there. A guy whose mere presence gets everyone up on their seats and ready to either tangle with him or tangle with those who want to tangle with him. If the member in question is one of these types where the whole forum is going to be overrun by drama, yeah, I have used an IP as an end around to get rid of them by the rules. I've done in very infrequently, twice, I think, and I don't like the end around as I'd rather just step up and say "You're fucking up my world, be gone", but I have to work with what I got. And whatever nick to my pride that the end around takes is less than watching my forum get wrecked unchecked.

I suspect BBB was doing the same. And, not that I suppose it'll make a lick of difference, but I do know of some situations where she was stuck into an unwinnable situation just as we all were. I know of situations where even the die hard WoV'ers, her "allies", were calling for her head. And one such situation was one were I was right in her ear, working together, telling her to do EXACTLY what she ended up doing. Yet she caught every speck of flak for it for no other reason than she was first to act and therefore the issue was "hers", and even me posting that, hey, this ain't all her and a lot falls on me, did nothing to stem that tide. It was as if I never even posted it.

I'm not gonna defend BBB. I'm at least smart enough to see the futility in trying to do it here. But my words and actions coming out of my mouth and fingers have seemed to give ol' Face a pretty decent rep. Seeing these exact same words and actions but coming out of someone else, and the result that has happened,... man. It's been a very deep mental hook for me for a very long time. I feel like I've caught something, some important look into social structures, but just haven't been able to reel it in yet. Is it because I'm young and she's old? I'm a male and she's female? How can two people doing the exact same thing wind up with such very different results? The mind boggles and I can't put it down.

I dunno. Despite our differences I still love Babs. She's the only one who has my personal number, we chat, we keep up. I hope one day to get my shit together and spend some time with her, hopefully as part of getting me my pilot's license, or for some fishing, maybe a good ol fashioned demo derby. Disagreeing with her is whatever. I do, too, sometimes. Getting shitty, well, people get emotional. Attacks? Bad form. Getting into actual personal and privacy issues, waaay beyond the line, at least in this hick's opinion.

Of course, ol' EvenBob is one of my very favorite members, so what the fuck do I know? =p

 

So it seems. although well intentioned, there is indeed as had been alleged, uneven punishment at wov depending on what mod happens to be on duty. Thw woman spends a month tracking down a duplicate ip to allow her to nuke, and Face looks the other way.

Well its good to have proof that I was correct in that allegation.

Since mods are not paid, I guess there is no training program to instill company values, or assign directives. There is no "exam" to see if they are up to date on rules. Its basically, each man doing his/her own thing.

And THAT is the downside to having unpaid representatives of a for profit company. You really cant insist on anything. You cant insist on strict enforcement of the rules or even consistent enforcement of the rules.

Its just a do what you want culture. Some enforce some rules, others enforce all rules. Some look the other way, others research a violation for a month

In any business people want to be treated fairly and consistently. They want to know what to expect. It seems that is not the case at wov.....as what you should expect varies witht he time of day, and the mod schedule.

Also what you can expect will also be effected by whether the wiz had a bad day or not and feels the need to go on a suspension spree.

Landmines galore.

I appreciate the attitude of Face.///usually have......His philosophy is accepted by the manboy, as are the variying philosophies of the other mods.

this can only lead to inequalities, and unhappiness..because each mod thinks that their philosophy is the way to go.

Thats why I stated in another post, that in business...the "treat people like you would want to be treated" philosophy has been thrown in the trash heap, as that is a very egocentric way of treating people. Everyone has a different standard of "how they would like to be personally treated"....and the world doesnt revolve around me, you, or any other individual.

 

You might as///well what replaces "treat people as your would like to be treated" in the business world.

It was replaced with
Treat people as THEY would like to be treated"

So sometimes that means you have to ask...."what can I do to make you happy"....

Notice that the admin here follows that concept,

the admin here has a business in the world of 2016....not the 1950's.

the admin here adheres to consistent rules deployment....and if there isnt a rule...the admin polls the community rather than issuing a punishment for a rule that doesnt exist.

so there is a replacement for the "treat people as YOU would like to be treated".....A company with that old philosophy is looking for 10 different ways of treating customers from 10 different associates. NOT a good way to go

customers want consistent administration of rules.....not egocentric administration of rules.

 

That's what you want as a customer/ so therefore Wov is not the place for you.
i don't like wal marts philosophy so therefore I'm willing to pay more for the same product at target. Some go to Barneys when the same product is available at Bloomingdales but they like the service better- we understand you don't like Wov. Just move on instead of being obsessed lets get some good gambling topics instead of the nonsense

 

first, its nice to see you are posting as the weight of the "real girl" on your chest has not slowed you down. So nice that you brag about having a "real girl" laying on your chest. But you never posted that she slithered off your chest. SO i ASSUME SHE IS STILL THERE.

Anyway....you live an egocentric life. The world does not live according to your guidelines, and according to your personal tastes.
Being banned from walmart and seeing your neighbors banned from walmart can involve you running away to target. I can understand that as thats what cowards do.

You can complain to the manager, and if he tells you to not the the door hit you in the ass on the way out....you can slith away to targer. Thats fine...if you have no backbone,

Its all good. I was not raised as you were.

 

Beached whale closes another thread. Oh the power...the awesome power.

The latest closure was the thread "The WOV Forums are Dying".... started by Two Feathers who is definitely not one of the boys over there...and oh how he tries. The thread has been silenced... 2F has been silenced. By the fair and unbiased beached whale acting like the little kid who covers his eyes with his hands and thinks that makes it all go away. She wants no references to this site over there. I wonder why.

Axel insults 2F and tells him to drop the innocent act. The whale reads it and springs into action immediately closing the thread. Now that's what one of the boys looks like.

I use the term beached whale not as a measure of fatness but as an identifier. That and the other terms were coined a long time ago and were never challenged until very recently. As a result, those terms are now common. It keeps things simple.

Come to think of it, I can see how beached whale could be taken as an insult so...my deepest apologies to all the real whales the oceans over.

Come on over here 2F. Tell your side of the story. We may not like what you say but nobody will attempt to silence you like they do at the DICKtatorship. Say what you want. No eggshells here. Heck, you can even disagree and tell us that beached whale is the best thing since sliced bread

 

Lars/WON,

real cute girl.

she must be light as a feather when she lays on your chest

 

You didn't have to!!

Please stop it, you are undermining your correct attitude to moderating a gambling forum and giving credence to her over zealous attitude and treating adults like kids on a gambling site.

You are both forum mods, she has your number, yet you fraternize with the perceived enemy, some of which she personally banished. So unless this is a "good cop, bad cop" rouse, it could be construed as a diss. The jilted drama queen when it comes to duplicate IP's, how dare anybody have the audacity to re-access a gambling site using stealth, it's not Fort Knox that she is protecting, it is only a gambling forum populated by BJ bigots with the traffic heading in one direction. No doubt she will psychoanalyze the next new member to sign up and actually make a post, becoming moist over the possibility of an IP match as she runs her search.

No kidding, she has the integrity of a gaming site to uphold. Questioning people over their IP addresses via PM, it's a joke.

He is just an old man minus a screw-driver and a few loose screws playing mind games, he is sucking up to BBB, but I assure you to the contrary is no fan.

Didn't she admit she spent a month trying to deduce he was back with a new ID, as well as making reference to the fact he has been booted from other sites to justify her actions, is that not the behavior of somebody who is over zealous in their role? As you mention GG, the death knell for that particular board was snowman's moderation, the parallels are obvious. Autocratic you may have to tolerate in a work environment, but on a gambling forum, oh please. Some of us do actual risk money in casino's, along with the emotional roller coast ride, then to be chastised by some over zealous, dictatorial bint who takes her role far too seriously.

I concur.

If you met up to go fishing (I made doubly sure I spelt that right) don't forget the flour.

Check page 7 of this thread, it was already out there.. When you have a beef with somebody on the net and are unable to wave your finger in somebody's face or worst, what generally is the next step!

But hey this thread is not just about BBB, it is about the fall off of traffic to the WoV web-site, causes are many, such as bias moderation, same rules applied differently to different members.

 

Says the voyeur from a gambling site were the most popular thread is the suspension list discussion and enjoy the freedom of slagging those that have been nuked without any form of rebuttal. Obviously you don't like this thread so why do you participate in it, leave us unworthy souls to vent our displeasure. In others words fuck off.

 

It takes more than one to create/ propagate drama.
It just doesnt persist with one person talking.

but as long as you have the vague label of "troll"......it can be a board of a singular viewpoint.

Heck,30 days ago blackhole has a skeptical view of APs, and for a first violation got 30 days....and didnt even make it to the wall of shame. 2 mods supposedly conferred..and they both said that the 3 day ban should be changed to 30 days....without even giving the person a fair warning that his words were inappropriate. So muchfor fairness....so much for transparency.

Neither of the 2 mods felt the need to be transparent.

I guess they were being caring and didnt want blackhole to be "shamed"

 

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