Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

I realize your deep love for bb, but I don't think she's really that lonely or lacking relationships. I agree with some of that though.

 

Good one, nate. If you find the part where I describe myself as a "professional gambler," let me know. I'll send you a check.

You seem to subscribe to the idea that everyone has the same expertise unless it's officially credentialed somehow, so all opinions carry equal weight. Interesting theory, there, dude.

 

You have a population of people who have college degrees, are reasonably intelligent, are a success by any metric, but lose at gambling all of their lives. So their conclusion, of course, is that nobody wins. Because if they don't, who can?

It's a banal, narcissistic, and demonstrably wrong conclusion, but it's theirs and more power to them.

May I point out, however, that it's insulting to people who win that this population assumes they cannot. The credentialization, in effect, comes from the winning. If your results are 10,000 to 1 or more against happening by chance, that's a credential, my friends.

 

What really happened was he made a post that was against the rules. It is impossible to delete his account (at least for us lessers), and since I have experimented a bit with these bots and found they rarely make more than two posts before going dead, I have fallen out of practice of ensuring the account is at least banned since it doesn't cause problems. Sometimes I do. Other times I'm on my phone and it's too much a faff, or I'm just in lazy-piece-of-shit mode and can't be arsed.

/transparency

 

I'll only be there to scout, but since you called me a "phony" in the other thread, I want to make it a point to meet you so we can have a discussion that leaves you with a lasting impression in the opposite field of "phony". Also, as I understand it, you're getting older and getting out and about is getting a bit more cumbersome than it used to be, and you've mentioned here on this forum that you've contemplated the idea of giving the information away, but also keeping it. I'll be honest, I get the impression from your posts that you seem to think you're the only one who knows how to "hustle" some of those machines, and you're not, and in the case of one of your more "recent" discoveries, I've known about it for a few years more than you have and have "worked" it longer, and you still don't seem to fully understand that machine, nor suggested that there might be a "gimmick" to it, much like there are "gimmicks" on every machine made by that manufacturer. I was hoping to be out there in November of this year, but it'll probably have to wait until March/April. Let me know if you travel outside of the PNW, and I might travel to meet you.

No joke, Mickey, I'm as legit and genuine as they come, and I've wanted to pick your brain for years, not because I think there's much present day value there, but because I would love to hear the stories you don't put on the forums.

 

Take this with a grain of salt, but from what I gather from a few conversations in Vegas over the years, his hiring was the issue, as he gave up one or more APs in doing so which made many lose respect for him. Again though, take it with a grain of salt because I wasn't there, nor a fly on the wall.

 

I would defend anyone that I felt was wrongly being accused of working the darkside. You're obviously jaded when it comes to Mike(AND I GET IT) because I noticed you didn't re-comment on Eliot. He has done 100x worse than Mike regarding AP darkside. He was an AP that intentionally went dark. I would put him in the same category of Griffin. I'm not saying he's a bad person, he's a nice guy from everything I know, but he's definitely not someone I would cut any slack on THIS type of stuff. He actually referred someone to me who was looking for work. I really didn't think there was anything shady or mole-icious going on. During phone a or PM conversation I didn't think he was the right fit anyway. Obviously I was very bias given the fact that Eliot referred him( rather safe than sorry.)

I can probably connect many other notables(ones you probably respect) to either online casinos or some type of darkside or uncouth activity. You would be very surprised at the the shady stuff if you went back to the 90's.

 

I am not sure what you want from me? You want me to say Eliot is worse than Mike?? Whatever. I am not 'rating' people as to who(m) is worse. That's not my thing.

Here is my thoughts on Eliot: He made his choice and that's fine. Most of his choices and actions are detrimental to me, as a professional blackjack player AP. However, some of his more recent statements and conclusions have actually been positive to a blackjack card counting type AP, like me, in that he recommends that the casino industry spend less time and effort worrying about card counters and more time and effort worrying about (more advanced) AP plays and players that are gaining a bigger advantage. He then goes on to lay out in detail some of these "more advanced" techniques which I am sure the guys employing those plays aren't happy about. But that doesn't effect me. But overall, his actions and the intent of his actions are against AP's, so I don't think much of him. But I don't wish him any harm. I can and do (when I am on a site with him) still engage in civil conversation and discussion.

As for Mike, my issues are strictly about feeling I was treated unfairly. And now, then better part of a year later, it should be crystal clear to Mike and everyone else, that the other party involved had no intention of participating and contributing to WoV, only using his influence with Mike to have me silenced. So I continue to be very disappointing that Mike isn't big enough to attempt to resolve that and move forward. But, I don't consider Mike a threat to me or my livelihood, as I do Eliot. If I did I would have not participated and tried to contributed positively at WoV for 4+ years.

I don't find his association with the online casino industry particularly threatening, as some AP's that exited when it was announced did. As a matter of fact, I recently started participating at the Blackjackinfo message board that has started up, which is now owned by the same company as WoV. I did find his association with a brick and mortar casino more troubling, but not to the point that I was uncomfortable interacting with him online. I was just pointing out that other's in the AP community are much more troubled by these associations.

 

Fair enough .

 

It's so obvious JBS=IBEATYOURACES(knowledgeable AP but total hypocrite)

 

It's obvious that ozzy is a ghetto trash heap from the worst part of the U.S.A. imaginable. Did your P.O. let you out again for a few days or are you high on heroin?

 

That's funny hypocrite JBS JBJB if I'm not mistaken your from Detroit 2 FUCKFACE I've seen you at Greektown,Soaring Eagle.Those royals and deuces you post every second day are from Greektown Schmuck

 

You play at Greektown almost everyday!! I admit to living in Detroit so do you and call me ghetto trash you proved your a big Hypocrite!!

 

Can't forget Toledo and upper peninsula

 

How did that craps play across border turn out about 3 years ago!!

 

And who are/were you at WOV? If true why out him anyways, what is your beef with him?

 

You little motherfucking little assholes. You leave me here all alone to guard myself against exoter. You phony little pricks. I don't need your punk ass help. You all know that you are phony little bitches anyway. This is a door that exoter will never get through. You will never see a time that I will kiss his ass. That phony motherfucker can kiss my ass forever.

 

Now now Micky, I did see your post about Exoter shouting his mouth off at WoV, so I did take a look at his posting history, couldn't find anything close to what you stated, so stayed out of it.

Hilarious if true. I called IBYA an ass or something and he felt the urge to mention it on WoV, which was good because it meant GF got another mention over at WoV.

You getting a hard-on arsy-roy-wolf, could be a bit of sock-puppery exposure happening here, ooh-er, call the internet PO~lice.

 

I have a lot of respect for true APS like AXEL,MICKEY,KEWLJ,RS even to some small degree WON because of his knowledge.But IBYA,JBS,JBJB is the biggest AP bullshitter hypocrite on all 3 sites(including Druffs).The first 4 names mentioned, are true successful APS who I believe tell it straight all the time.IBYA on the other hand tells stories so far fetched,like getting double digits royals in a month with minimal hands played,also numerous sets of Deuces that you would believe that he spends 20 hours a day 7 days a week at Greektown..He gives APs like the top 4 a bad name.To top it off he keeps calling me Detroit ghetto trash,yet the HYPOCRITE lives there himself.I think that about sums it up Axel.

 

IBYA stories are almost in the same stratosphere as dumb ass MENDELSON