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Roulette 12 number bet selection

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Aug 26, 2019.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    This bet selection is based on "washoo2" but is only betting one dozen

    American Wheels only

    few things to get out of the way before people say things

    1- this does not increase accuracy of predictions
    2- the house edge remains at all times
    3- use money you can afford to lose
    4- this is a system of play-not a HG
    5- set a win goal and stop, if you keep playing you expose yourself to the house edge
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    This is a single dozen system so I use the standard one dozen progression....don't like that? Don't play it and move on


    The system:

    1, 2, 3, 4, 13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 24, 35, 36

    bet 3rd dozen

    5, 6, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 31, 32, 33, 34

    bet 1st dozen

    0, 00, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30


    bet 2nd dozen
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    First 100 spin test


    WLLLWLWLLWLWWLLLWWWLWWWWWWLLWLLLWLLLLLLWWWLLLWLWLLWLWWLWLWWLLLWWWLLWLWLWWWLLLLWWLWLLLLLLLLWLWWLWLLW

    Second 75 spin test

    WLLWLWLWLLLWWLLWWLLLLWWWLLWWLLWWLLWLLWLWLWLWWWLLLLLLWWLWLLLLLLWLLLWLLWWWLW

    I like 12 numbers better....lower risk...higher reward...win goal attained fast...

    So far I like it

    *progression for testing: 1 – 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 6 – 9 – 14 – 21 – 31
    *bankroll using $10 units: $920
    *in my first 100 spin test I had to bet 21 units one time, the rest was easy
    *in my 2nd 75 spin test highest level was a 9 unit bet

    This meets my requirement for low bankroll with possibility of high return...personally Id play for a few unit profit and head out and not sit and play continuously as even the wizard says, the longer you play the more you expose yourself to HE


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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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  3. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Buddy,
    It is your own choice but I would advise you to never try brute force progressions that suck huge at a single loss. Risking all to win 1 unit is pathetic. Irrespective of the trigger to choose a dozen, it could easily go across your progression limits that you can see in a simple simulation.
    Sorry to interrupt.
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This is sort of funny. You use the progression on the situation that is not happening the way that you want it to. You are in fact using it on the sleeping dozen. Just so you know, I have software that deliberately hunts the sleeping dozen on it's own. I made this software to find these situations, so that it could place bets on the other two dozens that must hit while the same dozen sleeps. Your progression goes 10 steps. Sleeping dozens are common at 7 and 8 repeats. Once or twice every 200 spins you will see a sleeping dozen last 14 to 16 spins. At least I would with my 4 grouping charts. So if I pull back to just 2 table layout options for groups of dozens, including the column bets, then it becomes every 400 spins.You can have a hot streak of sleeping dozens too. You might get a swarm of them. That happens too.

    I once saw the same dozen sleep for 33 spins in a row. The sequence of death will get you like the grim reaper. Embrace the horror.
     
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  5. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    A sleeping dozen wouldn’t affect this at all.
     
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    I looked at bet determination for playing single Dozens and Columns many years back. IMO I deduced to just follow the last one hit, it kinds of protects you from a repeating sequence 6 ~ 9 times. Again not affected by any sleeping 3rd bet. The table sequence would have to repeat itself 9 times, something like; 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, now considering they are not exactly 50-50 bets :cool: of course hedging the zero on the bigger bets.
     
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  7. RouletteGhost

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    Yes agrees

    As far as gizmo goes he doesn’t understand the strategy if he is worried about a sleeping dozen. The bets always changing.
     
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  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    True enough. I don't understand the bet selection process. I'll have to search for that part.
     
  9. RouletteGhost

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    The system:

    1, 2, 3, 4, 13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 24, 35, 36

    bet 3rd dozen
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    5, 6, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 31, 32, 33, 34

    bet 1st dozen
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    0, 00, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30


    bet 2nd dozen

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    If 23 hits bet 3rd dozen next spin

    If 30 hits bet 2nd dozen next spin
     
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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Cool, it deliberately jumps away from the sleeper. There's also the chop to deal with though. And you could deliberately not jump into a sleeping dozen too. If you have a sleeping dozen and it continues then the other two dozens become a 50 / 50 try with a single dozen payoff of 2 to 1.
     
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  11. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Whether you choose a fixed dozen or rotating on any parameter, be it hottest, the coldest, the average, farthest, latest, before last one or any magical way, getting across 10 steps is not very tough. Code it in excel and you can see over 10 runs readily. The odds of getting 15 spins in a row without your Dozen/Column hitting: European Roulette: (25/37)^15 = 0.2793% – This works out at 1 in 358 chance. Not hitting for 10 trials is 0.01983274582 that will be far more frequent. You are risking 92 chips for that to not happen. It is not so wise.
     
  12. RouletteGhost

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    You sure do like preaching to the choir

    Post #1 of this thread, I’ll quote myself

    1- this does not increase accuracy of predictions
    2- the house edge remains at all times
    3- use money you can afford to lose
    4- this is a system of play-not a HG”

    And

    “This is a single dozen system so I use the standard one dozen progression....don't like that? Don't play it and move on”
     
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  13. RouletteGhost

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    I am not stating anywhere that the house edge changes from where it should be

    That’s why I use money that I can afford to use and I decrease my exposure as that’s huge

    Decrease exposure. Don’t play for hours.
     
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  14. Bago

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    Well said, anyone who believes he can travel all around the world cleaning the Roulette tables with a system should immediately take an appointment with a psychiatrist.
     
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  15. RouletteGhost

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    I don’t claim to beat any edge. I don’t claim to have a different edge

    I thought my bullet points in post 1 were enough.

    If I’m gonna play a system with a progression I’m limiting my exposure

    I laid it all out in post 1
     
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  16. albalaha

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    @RG,

    Firstly, I m not preaching but discussing. You are not pushing me to play your way, neither I m pushing you for anything.

    #So far increasing accuracy of predictions is concerned, nothing does that in a random game except proven physics based approaches. Casino has countermeasures for them too.
    #Even a slightly sensible progression has no threat from the much feared house edge. Variance kills it.
    # I agree with your third point, you can afford to lose that
    #The HG is not child's play. Calling a martingale type centuries old progression an HG will be HG of jokes.
     
  17. RouletteGhost

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    Only HG that exists is being able to predict where the ball will fall.
     
  18. Bago

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    With the modern wheels design and bouncy balls it is impossible. And even if you had the chance to find an easy wheel and ball like Kristian in this video, the Casino will just call NMB earlier and the game is over. That's why in my opinion Roulette is a big waste of time for anyone looking to make money gambling. But it is fun to play and spend a good time with friends.
     
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  19. RouletteGhost

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    I also believe that prediction of where the ball goes is rubbish but that’s another story. I question the “AP” people.

    But that’s a story for another day
     
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    It was certainly possible to predict where the ball landed with an edge, even before the ball release, again thanks to the wheel design, the nice tilt and heavy balls, but overtime the materials improved to make the game random, that is why an ex VB player like Pierre Basieux stopped playing and started to write Roulette books and sell $7000 courses at his residence. Same for the Internet sellers, when they popped up, it was already too late to make serious money gambling Roulette, it was much more lucrative to sell from the comfort of your own home...
     

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