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Baccarat A serious question: do you think legitimate casinos will try to cheat you?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. karumba

    karumba Active Member

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    I wouldn't agree that diamonds are worth less than cow manure. Sure, if you're on a deserted island and no way off for the rest of your days, yes. but who are you trying to kid? we're someone gonna get stranded on a deserted island for the rest of our days, and this proves diamonds are worthless? sorry, i could take any diamond ring down to a pawn shop and get more for it than a bag of manure!

    diamond rings prove wealth, and keep their wealth!
     
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  2. Frank Kneeland

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    I agree diamonds are more valuable but only because other people will buy them. My point was they have no intrinsic value to you beyond your ability to sell them to someone else. Actually they do have some commercial value in drilling and electronics.

    Emeralds on the other hand have almost NO industrial application, so perhaps that would have been a better example.

    This all goes back to the value of money itself. It's all essentially worthless and useless unless you have someone willing to trade something useful for it.
     
  3. karumba

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    yes frank, but that argument is moot. it's like saying, "if the world didn't exist, we wouldn't be concerned about anything!" the fact is, the world does exist and so do diamonds and currency. diamonds are more than just veblen in nature. they're alluring, tradeable, give feelings of wealth. so does cash if you have enough of it on your person.
     
  4. karumba

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    i think what you were driving at frank, is probably this: that the wealthy asians with large wads of cash at jupiters, were trying to impress their girlfriends and others, betting with those large wads of cash in a public gambling arena, rather than a private one.

    i don't think saying "there's a veblen effect of large wads of cash that are inherently worthless," quite makes the point that the above statement does.
     
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  5. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    With all Asia gamblers it's about Face, biggest stack of chips on the table, biggest bettor, best guessor.

    Heard tales of Asian players losing big at the table and walking away with a "I don't care" attitude. Once out of eye-sight, the are going crazy as a mofo, heart attacks, the works.
     
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  6. Frank Kneeland

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    I'll concede that. It was probably not the best analogy. It does irk me that we value things because other people value those things. It's like the Kardashians being famous for being famous.
     
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  7. GaryG

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    Legitimate u.s. casinos can't. They get audited often
     

  8. Myrtlejones

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    I have seen it for many times, the show must go on but no telling when they show
     
  9. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Bit of an update of this, I forgot I had mentioned this on the WoV site at the time (Dec 28th 2013).

    Here is the actual shoe.

    PPPPPPPPP
    BBB
    PP
    BBBBBBBB
    P
    BBBB
    PPPPP

    The three young Chinese dudes weren't betting $15k per hand, rather they were betting the table max of $75k per hand, I assume they were simply betting FLD.

    They had approx $2.5Million in what are known as biscuits. In his response Spike was as negative as ever for such a cantankerous old man that he is, a natural born loser.
     
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  10. oopsididitagain

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    670 -------------> 670 = 10*67 ---> 167 = (166 + 9^0) ---> (1 + 669) = 670
     
  11. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Garnabby is alive and kicking still!!! You're not him are you?
     
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  12. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Damn Garnabby is OppsIDidItAgain, Kitchener Ontario in da house, still making a crust via suing medical authorities?

    On the subject of weird Canadians, the low IQ tool from Toronto? Is either still plucking the gravel from his "white superior skin" or trying to bunk past those Pearly Gates. If the latter then I guess AIDS infected blood don't give ya immunity from the corona-virus, either way one less low intelligent racist consuming precious oxygen.
     
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  13. Nathan Detroit

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    Is Garnabby playong with a full deck ? He does not give the impression .Weird cat from Kitchner Ont.
     
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  14. cps10

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    No he’s not ND!
     
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    I miss Garnabby. "I can't stand to hear him sing but I love to hear me talk."
     
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  16. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    The thing about Garnabby is his words and thoughts becomes jumbled, it's like the left side of his brain is contradicting the right. The only time he makes any sense is when he re-reads his posts for the next 24 hours before hitting the post button. Anyway he has posted a link to his profile on VegasCasinoTalks above, his posts on the chat board WoV mod Face created called "thepenaltybox", would indicate severe mental issues, perhaps he is better now, no idea.


    Playing with a full deck?
     
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  17. cps10

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    @Junket King that is correct. Garnabby is not playing with a full deck.
     
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  18. hotjohnnn

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    My bad i just saw this thread.
    First of all anyone that doesn t play any casino game should not have an opinion if the casinos cheat or not.
    If you do not play you have no experience with anything about casino games so how do you know if they cheat or not?
    You do not, period.

    Next thing i would like to say is for God s sake the internet is full of proofs.
    There are many players here who claim they play for 20-30 or even 40 years and they have no clue about the subject.

    Go on youtube and see how many manipulated roulette spins are there.
    Countless proofs for every game.

    Also you forget about something, casinos do not want just to make some money.
    They want to make as much as possible per round per spin you name it.

    So online casinos cheat when they want.
    I can not talk about B&M because i have very little experience with them.
     
  19. soxfan

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    Show me proofs of legit casino cheating at baccarats, hey hey????
     
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  20. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    I've been cheated at a B&M casino at the Baccarat table, I've posted about it before, few times actually. Could I prove it, nope.

    I won't repeat it again, because I know what the response will be, then again somebody like you would never understand, because you don't play at the level I was playing at back then, also your not as good as me. I will say this however, the reason they cheated (deck manipulation), was because I took for for over 60k inside a week, and they wanted to bring it to an end by any means necessary.

    But i'll tell ya what, if ya post a crypto address I'll send you some spare change via Binance so ya can have a wash.
     
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