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Baccarat AIN'T CATS EVER WONDER WHY????

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Apr 5, 2021.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    If trendings is the sure way to profits then why the casino make it so easy for cats. Why do they go to trouble and expense of putting up bright scoreboardso cats can see plain past event and thus divine future outcome? Why do they also offer the scores card and writing implement? They don't put up scores board or offer cats paper and pen at the 21 table. Why do they go to greats length to give cats the roads map to the drive road if to their detriment? And why do casinos suit always warn cats in ominous tone to avoid betting bankers cuz of the tax? Ain't cats ever wonder about these stuff and thing? Probably not, hey hey.
     
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  2. Craps

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    It's competition. If one casino put up a scoreboard and became popular, other casinos will follow. It's not up there to make the customers lose. It's a convenience. Before Macau were open up to foreign casinos the locals has already writing down the Derived Roads on a scorecard themselves. Soon programs were introduced to have them appear on a scoreboard.
    There are not there to make you lose. You can bet the opposite if that is the case. Ever noticed if the Main road or Big Road is trending nicely meaning a good shoe, the Hamburger Road or Small road will see a lot of RED entries.
    If you like to play follow the shoe, look for a table with lots of red Hamburger Road entries.
    It's not totally complete yet for the scoreboard in my opinion. The bead Road shouldn't have the TIES occupying a whole entry. This screws up the appearance for people with a system on the bead trend. I personally think if ever a casino starts displaying 3 bead, 4 bead, 5 bead and 6 bead trends without the Ties, it will gain popularity and other casinos will sure to follow.
     
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    Every outcome is 50-50, prior results have no outcome on what will win next, folks only notice trends after they have happened. Some players do win by following the trend, call it luck. You shouldn't expect to win long term by following any trend.

    Some Asia casinos don't provide score cards, Singapore, Macau.
     
  4. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Hey credit where credit dues, when the john-O righ he right and trendings is bollocks. But I wish that cats would stop repeting dogma and mantra foolishness about the baccrats bein the 50-50 coins flip proposition, cuz it ain't hey hey.
     
  5. Craps

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    You only bet B selectively. RIGHT?
    You mentioned it before in previous post. RIGHT?
    You mentioned trends are bollocks. RiGHT?
    Isn't SELECTIVELY means LOOKING AT PAST EVENTS?
     
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  6. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Uh no, I have zero interest in past events cuz I knoww with certainty that bankers gonna pop at better than 50 percents and that all I need to know. If the baccarats was a true 50-50 proposition then it wouldn't be possible to win betting flat unless a cat got the esp gift, hey hey.
     
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    But you said SELECTIVELY. That means you do look at PAST events.
    You need me to cut and paste?
     
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  8. Craps

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    Your reply in another thread

    Don't the whole world including the casinos knew Bank has a slight edge? Never mind about whether you are winning or losing. Just explain why you are on the right side more than wrong side doing Bank bets and Flat Betting. How? If you don't disclose, why start this thread ? It's not about discussing anymore. Is it about boasting? No hate here. Just eager to learn.

    One more time, betting bankers only every hand like the robot will give you a strikes rate of 50.7-50.8 percents but by betting bankers a wee bit more selective you can have the strikes rate of over 51 percentsd, simple, hey hey.
     
  9. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Ok I don't want to getg into the semantic so I concede the pints. But still, no matter what pops previous I never, ever, EVER bet on players cuz it's a lousy, shorts change, shorts pay proposition, hey hey.
     
  10. Jimske

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    Correct. It's not semantics. You have to have a reason to stop or go and when you do and it's not arbitrarily chosen but based on historical data it's the same as saying "trend." Full stop.
     
  11. Nathan Detroit

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    The game of Baccarat is a B onanaza for the cats wh o know how to handle this game properly.


    That`s bad for the casinos bottom line .



    But........ there are more people who think they know better and and are contributors to the bottom line.



    But some WHALES can really present a problem for a casino. Those are the ones casinos have to fear.



    The onens who walk away with several m millions and never to be seen again.
     
  12. soxfan

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    Most of the whale what win big always give it back plus lots more. These cats only win bigs on long streak but at the baccarats the long streak account for less than 5% of all streaks event. That's why casino capture 18 10 20% return on their baccarats action in spite of the platry 1% house bite, hey hey.
     
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  13. Jimske

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    The only person I ever heard not know the answer to this is ECD. His explanation was the casino rigs the game.

    But it's really quite simple. People run out of money or hit the max bet! If everyone flat bet and had substantial bankroll to overcome the w/l variance and played enough hands that's all the Man would get.

    In his book, Win $1k Per Day at Craps, Stetson Bailey explained it quite nicely as "drift." Drift being the fact that players (except a rare few) lose more hands then they win and ultimately need to increase their wager to get whole. As they do they ultimately don't lose just 20% but even 100% of their session. Then they come back the next time with the same bank and the same bets to repeat.

    It's not just whales. People go in with a couple hundred bucks and lose most or all of it. Even if they flat bet a $5 game. If they play long enough with the same bankroll most will lose ALL of it due to house edge. Some will win of course so the casino will only get 20%.

    In sailing we understand this as "cross track error" which reduces time. Every time we over correct it costs time. I thought I'd copy and post from Baileys wonderful book on wagering in his own words why people get wiped out.
     
  14. Jimske

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    The only person I ever heard not know the answer to this is ECD. His explanation was the casino rigs the game.

    But it's really quite simple. People run out of money or hit the max bet! If everyone flat bet and had substantial bankroll to overcome the w/l variance and played enough hands that's all the Man would get.

    In his book, Win $1k Per Day at Craps, Stetson Bailey explained it quite nicely as "drift." Drift being the fact that players (except a rare few) lose more hands then they win and ultimately need to increase their wager to get whole. As they do they ultimately don't lose just 20% but even 100% of their session. Then they come back the next time with the same bank and the same bets to repeat.

    It's not just whales. People go in with a couple hundred bucks and lose most or all of it. Even if they flat bet a $5 game. If they play long enough with the same bankroll most will lose ALL of it due to house edge. Some will win of course so the casino will only get 20%.

    In sailing we understand this as "cross track error" which reduces time. Every time we over correct it costs time. I thought I'd copy and post from Baileys wonderful book on wagering in his own words why people get wiped out.
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